Broke another Pioneer Valve Spring on the 97'......
12-31-2005, 04:35 PM
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Broke another Pioneer Valve Spring on the 97'......
Just like the one I did last year(#6 exhaust), guess I will be replacing them all now at around 10K miles 
This was the stock springs on the Cartek Stage 4 stroker heads in early 2003.......sure hope they have gone to something else
As I feared the sound was a broken valve spring..........
#5 exhaust as the pic show.
Got everything cleaned up today so now it's time to change the spring(s)
out!
The pics are attached.
Valve seems to be ok and spins freeley w/o any slop in the guide, just like the last one..May get to use my new boroscope now
Good thing I keep the rest of the PP Golds
Have a Safe New Year
This was the stock springs on the Cartek Stage 4 stroker heads in early 2003.......sure hope they have gone to something else
As I feared the sound was a broken valve spring..........
#5 exhaust as the pic show.
Got everything cleaned up today so now it's time to change the spring(s)
out!
The pics are attached.
Valve seems to be ok and spins freeley w/o any slop in the guide, just like the last one..May get to use my new boroscope now
Good thing I keep the rest of the PP Golds
Have a Safe New Year
Last edited by Allthrottleandsomebottle; 12-31-2005 at 05:03 PM.
01-01-2006, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Sorry for the bad luck Steve.... look on the positive, you're becomming a master at swapping springs.
Swith them all out to the comp dual 921s or patriot gold duals or the ISKY DUAL SPRINGS that MTI uses with alot of succes on their big cubed motors!!
01-01-2006, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BLOWN ECS Z06
Swith them all out to the comp dual 921s or patriot gold duals or the ISKY DUAL SPRINGS that MTI uses with alot of succes on their big cubed motors!! I cant believe they set you up with stock springs on a big cubed motor like that! PP Golds here...17k miles on them and counting!
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01-01-2006, 11:19 AM
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It happens.........not like I have been beating on it or anything
I have the other 7 cyls of PP golds on the work bench
I have the other 7 cyls of PP golds on the work bench
01-02-2006, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by c52k1vert
Steve, I'm glad you and Julie made it home after such a wonder day!!! Man, what a day. Glad you have it all worked out. Richard
Richard column lock............broken spring..........it's a wonder we did make it home I didn't know Jeff could tune CL in................bastich
I just got done using my boroscope............piston and valve look ok so time will tell!
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01-02-2006, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLTHROTTLE&NOBOTTLE
It happens.........not like I have been beating on it or anything
I have the other 7 cyls of PP golds on the work bench
I have the other 7 cyls of PP golds on the work bench
01-03-2006, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyG
You gonna take the time and replace them all now
Whats that old adage about "third time"
01-03-2006, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ALLTHROTTLE&NOBOTTLE
Well the last one did have a nick were it broke...............this time I don't care, new springs for all Whats that old adage about "third time"
Whats that old adage about "third time"
01-06-2006, 09:44 PM
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06
Damn Steve!
Sorry to hear about it but it looks like there was no major issues with the motor. I love my 921s even with all the noise
I am headed up to see Jeff tomorrow and Cobra get tuned. Durka durka!!
Dave
Sorry to hear about it but it looks like there was no major issues with the motor. I love my 921s even with all the noise
I am headed up to see Jeff tomorrow and Cobra get tuned. Durka durka!!
Dave
01-07-2006, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ALLTHROTTLE&NOBOTTLE
Well the last one did have a nick were it broke...............
Were these duals?
01-07-2006, 08:03 PM
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All is well,
Got the other PP gold springs on today.
The one valve guide had maybe 20% damage around the very top seal area but it will be fine
Other than a couple of skin nicks,broken 10mm socket & 1/4 to 3/8 adapter twisted off.........sounds good.
Took it for a drive in the neighborhood to get the oil temps up and parked for the night.
After a good washing tomorrow........time to go beat on it.
These are double springs, I did chalk up the 1st break to the damage.....but not this one!
Got the other PP gold springs on today.
The one valve guide had maybe 20% damage around the very top seal area but it will be fine
Other than a couple of skin nicks,broken 10mm socket & 1/4 to 3/8 adapter twisted off.........sounds good.
Took it for a drive in the neighborhood to get the oil temps up and parked for the night.
After a good washing tomorrow........time to go beat on it.
These are double springs, I did chalk up the 1st break to the damage.....but not this one!
01-08-2006, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyG
Steve, I've got a complete set -1/2 of valve seals if you need any?
With the crane valve spring tool, 2 at a time is the deal for sure
Last edited by Allthrottleandsomebottle; 01-08-2006 at 11:52 AM.
01-08-2006, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
Do you know who made these springs? They look nitrided.What cam are you running?
cam is nothing radical,~.600
Just not as good a material/finishing as PP golds or 921s
