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Old 10-03-2005, 08:44 PM
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Sorry if this doesn't come up as an image, as it's an attachment at the Ford GT site. I don't know if Troy allows "?"'s in IMG tags.



Acceleration and Lap times at Gingerman. HOT!

Ford GT 3.8 0-60, 12.2 1/4 mile, 1:32.45 lap
Z06 4.1 0-60, 12.0 1/4 mile, 1:32.75 lap
Viper 4.3 0-60, 12.4 1/4 mile, 1:33.95 lap


Damn I wish I had this rag to read right now! Looks like the Z and GT are a great road course battle. I'm surprised the mid-engined setup was enough to compensate for the weight on a small track like Gingerman. At least the Viper, er, I'm sure it's very hard to drive, and therefore more manly or something. Great cover pic.
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Originally Posted by The DBK
Sorry if this doesn't come up as an image, as it's an attachment at the Ford GT site. I don't know if Troy allows "?"'s in IMG tags.



Acceleration and Lap times at Gingerman. HOT!

Ford GT 3.8 0-60, 12.2 1/4 mile, 1:32.45 lap
Z06 4.1 0-60, 12.0 1/4 mile, 1:32.75 lap
Viper 4.3 0-60, 12.4 1/4 mile, 1:33.95 lap


Damn I wish I had this rag to read right now! Looks like the Z and GT are a great road course battle. I'm surprised the mid-engined setup was enough to compensate for the weight on a small track like Gingerman. At least the Viper, er, I'm sure it's very hard to drive, and therefore more manly or something. Great cover pic.

Thats pretty cool..but cant belive the time they have come up with, slow..but it takes time for people to figure out the car i guess..but it must have been some test..

I would love to see it too..
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Can you view the pic?

All I know is that this is without question the golden age of american sports cars when a 515hp Dodge Viper is the slowest of the group
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wow they got some slow times. thats . those cars are much faster

here are the real times for each car
0-60 1/4 mile braking skidpad
ford gt 3.7 11.5 97feet 1.05
viper 3.8 11.7 111 feet 1.00
vet Z06 3.7 11.5 106 feet 1.04


those are the official times you can see that the ford gt and z06 are the top for speed but the viper is top for brakes and handeling.
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Originally Posted by sween

here are the real times for each car
0-60 1/4 mile braking skidpad
ford gt 3.7 11.5 97feet 1.05
viper 3.8 11.7 111 feet 1.00
vet Z06 3.7 11.5 106 feet 1.04.
The "real" times are what the cars run on the same day at the same track. Heat, altitude, surface, etc on the same day provide for true comparison. Not what a manufacturer claims...
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Originally Posted by The DBK
The "real" times are what the cars run on the same day at the same track. Heat, altitude, surface, etc on the same day provide for true comparison. Not what a manufacturer claims...
yup your right. but also sadly a slow magizane tested the cars. hopefully motortrend,CD or RT does the same test
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I wonder what was the difference for the Ford 3 tenths of a second edge in its lap time over the Z.......

It must has been the handling......
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4.1 to 60, they must have shifted to 2nd

What's up with the cornering Gs on the the Z? Am I reading that right? 1.1 and 1.09? Were the runflats on the Z?

Do the viper or GT have runflats?
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HOLY ****!! The Z06 beat the Viper in braking, and beat the FGT in the 1/4 mile and came DARN close to it around the track.

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...What are your excuses now, Sween?? Same track, same conditions, etc...I think it is time for you to give credit where credit is due eh??

God I love this car!!

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LOL!!!

Can somebody bring up the old posts where people were saying GT is gonna KILL Z06.
You remember, the ones were I said it’s gonna be a lot closer than you think.

Whos the b*tch now?!

I also called BS on C&D braking and lateral numbers. Something must’ve been off that day.
Look at this – same day, same track, same conditions – new Z outbrakes Viper – just like I said it should/would.

Man, I love to be right
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What's up with the cornering Gs on the the Z? Am I reading that right? 1.1 and 1.09? Were the runflats on the Z?
These are not skid pad (sustained) lateral G numbers. These are just Gs recorded in corners of the track (which might have slightly banked turns, I don’t know).
Either way, they’re always higher than skid pad and cannot be compared to skid pad number directly.

Do the viper or GT have runflats?
SRT-10 does , GT – I don’t know, most likely not. Somebody confirm?
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Originally Posted by sween
wow they got some slow times. thats . those cars are much faster

here are the real times for each car
0-60 1/4 mile braking skidpad
ford gt 3.7 11.5 97feet 1.05
viper 3.8 11.7 111 feet 1.00
vet Z06 3.7 11.5 106 feet 1.04


those are the official times you can see that the ford gt and z06 are the top for speed but the viper is top for brakes and handeling.
No, top for brakes and grip. "Handling" is much more comprehensive than a lateral g number, is much more subjective... and is historically the Viper's weakest point.
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go zo6!!! but the viper and gt are just to heavy for me. but for some reason the styling on the gt is getting very boring boring to me but the viper and zo6 look great
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Originally Posted by sween
wow they got some slow times. thats . those cars are much faster

here are the real times for each car
0-60 1/4 mile braking skidpad
ford gt 3.7 11.5 97feet 1.05
viper 3.8 11.7 111 feet 1.00
vet Z06 3.7 11.5 106 feet 1.04


those are the official times you can see that the ford gt and z06 are the top for speed but the viper is top for brakes and handeling.
LOL
Garbage post
Real times??
I think you need to get real!
Old 10-03-2005, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EuG
These are not skid pad (sustained) lateral G numbers. These are just Gs recorded in corners of the track (which might have slightly banked turns, I don’t know).
Either way, they’re always higher than skid pad and cannot be compared to skid pad number directly.



SRT-10 does , GT – I don’t know, most likely not. Somebody confirm?

No banking at Gingerman. It's a short, very technical, fun course to drive. Lots of room to run off if you screw up and very little armco to worry about. I just re-read the article and if it they said where they tested for the 0-60 etc. I missed it. Maybe they tested somewhere at Gingerman? There really isn't a straightaway long enough for a 1/4 mile run. In any event, they seemed to like everything about the Z06 except the interior. What I found most interesting was a picture they had of the three cars nose to tail. The Corvette looks smaller and tidier than either of the others, although it appears to be just a bit further from the camera. Oh yeah. They didn't use a Yellow one! There is another color. It was blue.
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It's hard to believe that they couldn't get one of these cars under 12 sec in the quarter.

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Old 10-03-2005, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobby J
It's hard to believe that they couldn't get one of these cars under 12 sec in the quarter.
Could have been the conditions. Cold? Realy hot?
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Originally Posted by Chris Draper
Could have been the conditions. Cold? Realy hot?
Who knows? Other than the R&T time for the Z06, those are the absolute slowest times I have seen reported for all of those cars. Hopefully Motor Trend and Car and Driver will do the same test. I'm guessing they will get better numbers across the board. The Z looked very impressive in this test.
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Who was driving those cars at Gingerman? Those lap times beat some of our experienced racers driving Viper Competition Coupes on Hoosiers.


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