[Z06] Benefits of dry sump oil system?
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Pump always generates oil pressure = no more oil froathing at high revs or starvation.
Enabling the lowering of the engine in the frame = lower center of gravity.
Larger capacity oil reserve = less chance for oil "over-heating", less contamination (per volume).
Those are some benefits that come to mind, but I'm no expert.
Enabling the lowering of the engine in the frame = lower center of gravity.
Larger capacity oil reserve = less chance for oil "over-heating", less contamination (per volume).
Those are some benefits that come to mind, but I'm no expert.
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Originally Posted by Miaugi
Pump always generates oil pressure = no more oil froathing at high revs or starvation.
Enabling the lowering of the engine in the frame = lower center of gravity.
Larger capacity oil reserve = less chance for oil "over-heating", less contamination (per volume).
Those are some benefits that come to mind, but I'm no expert.
Enabling the lowering of the engine in the frame = lower center of gravity.
Larger capacity oil reserve = less chance for oil "over-heating", less contamination (per volume).
Those are some benefits that come to mind, but I'm no expert.
Plus you can position the oil tank closer to the center - improves handeling.
No oil near crankshaft - gets you more HP.
Longer interval between oil changes.
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Instant oiling at start up too, I believe. Most of the wear and tear on an engine occurs at start-up.
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Originally Posted by Miaugi
Pump always generates oil pressure = no more oil froathing at high revs or starvation.
Enabling the lowering of the engine in the frame = lower center of gravity.
Larger capacity oil reserve = less chance for oil "over-heating", less contamination (per volume).
Enabling the lowering of the engine in the frame = lower center of gravity.
Larger capacity oil reserve = less chance for oil "over-heating", less contamination (per volume).
Inside the dry sump, the oil is pumped into a circular funnel shaped device that de-aireates the oil so that the oil pumped back into the engine has no bubbles in it, thereby increasing the protection for the engine.
The long oil path, gives the oil more chances to loose energy and arrive back at the engine cooler than a wet sump system.
Finally, with rather large-ish evaccuation pumps, the bottom end is operating at zero or negative pressures, increasing the effective pressure between the combustion chamber and the bottom end, which increases the force delivered to piston and onto the crankshaft, which increases power (by small amounts).
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Originally Posted by Miaugi
Pump always generates oil pressure = no more oil froathing at high revs or starvation.
Enabling the lowering of the engine in the frame = lower center of gravity.
Larger capacity oil reserve = less chance for oil "over-heating", less contamination (per volume).
Those are some benefits that come to mind, but I'm no expert.
Enabling the lowering of the engine in the frame = lower center of gravity.
Larger capacity oil reserve = less chance for oil "over-heating", less contamination (per volume).
Those are some benefits that come to mind, but I'm no expert.
has the engine really been lowered in the 2006 z06. i think this may have not happened because i have not heard it being touted by dave hill and co.
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Originally Posted by TripleBlack99
has the engine really been lowered in the 2006 z06. i think this may have not happened because i have not heard it being touted by dave hill and co.
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Instant oiling at start up too, I believe. Most of the wear and tear on an engine occurs at start-up.
I flip a toggle switch to start the oil being pumped from the accusump though the engine. after about 45-60 sec I turn the engine on or over and start the car. Mimimal pistion slap of the small block chevy
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Originally Posted by TripleBlack99
has the engine really been lowered in the 2006 z06. i think this may have not happened because i have not heard it being touted by dave hill and co.
One more time: The clutch housing is the limiting factor in lowering the engine in the frame, not the oil pan. Since this totrque monster needs a big clutch, it cannot be lowered with respect to the engine position in the plain vanilla C6.
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Check out this site
Below should explain how it works and the advantages:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question331.htm
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question331.htm
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Originally Posted by DEL_FRC
Below should explain how it works and the advantages:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question331.htm
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question331.htm
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Originally Posted by gonzalezfj
You have not heard Hill mention lowering the engine in the frame because it has not been done.
One more time: The clutch housing is the limiting factor in lowering the engine in the frame, not the oil pan. Since this totrque monster needs a big clutch, it cannot be lowered with respect to the engine position in the plain vanilla C6.
One more time: The clutch housing is the limiting factor in lowering the engine in the frame, not the oil pan. Since this totrque monster needs a big clutch, it cannot be lowered with respect to the engine position in the plain vanilla C6.
Also, A dry sump oil system does not provide lubrication before startup because the pump is driven off the crankshaft, the only way to prelube the engine is with an Accusump like what Au n egl has.
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The number one reason for a race car driver is better throttle response!
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Two things here I have never heard of before for dry sump oil systems:
1) crankcase vacuum
Those oil evacuation pumps to my knowledge (and I am not an engine builder or engineer for road race cars, so excuse my ignorance), are not designed to evacuate crankcase blowby along with the oil. I have seen such systems used in drag racing, which employ a rotary vane air pump similar to those used on emission control systems, but they are separate from the oil evacuation system.
2) better throttle response
Can't figure this one out at all.
Can someone confirm or deny these, and give us more detail?
Michael
1) crankcase vacuum
Those oil evacuation pumps to my knowledge (and I am not an engine builder or engineer for road race cars, so excuse my ignorance), are not designed to evacuate crankcase blowby along with the oil. I have seen such systems used in drag racing, which employ a rotary vane air pump similar to those used on emission control systems, but they are separate from the oil evacuation system.
2) better throttle response
Can't figure this one out at all.
Can someone confirm or deny these, and give us more detail?
Michael
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Originally Posted by Michael A
Two things here I have never heard of before for dry sump oil systems:
1) crankcase vacuum
Those oil evacuation pumps to my knowledge (and I am not an engine builder or engineer for road race cars, so excuse my ignorance), are not designed to evacuate crankcase blowby along with the oil. I have seen such systems used in drag racing, which employ a rotary vane air pump similar to those used on emission control systems, but they are separate from the oil evacuation system.
2) better throttle response
Can't figure this one out at all.
Can someone confirm or deny these, and give us more detail?
Michael
1) crankcase vacuum
Those oil evacuation pumps to my knowledge (and I am not an engine builder or engineer for road race cars, so excuse my ignorance), are not designed to evacuate crankcase blowby along with the oil. I have seen such systems used in drag racing, which employ a rotary vane air pump similar to those used on emission control systems, but they are separate from the oil evacuation system.
2) better throttle response
Can't figure this one out at all.
Can someone confirm or deny these, and give us more detail?
Michael
2) I can't even fathom a guess on this one.