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Old 02-07-2005, 06:56 PM
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Default Drill Mod for Master line ??

I know on the F-bodys you can drill the master line with a 1/8 drill bit to take out the restrictor to allow more fluid to the slave cylinder. is this possible on a c5???? i heard there is a 90 degree fitting there and it can not be done??? im having problems getting the car to **** in to 3rd at high rpm....

here are a few links about what im talking about

http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/howto/39021/



http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228754
Old 02-07-2005, 07:54 PM
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If this works for C5s, I know what my next mod is! I'm all about driveability with occasional outbursts of acceleration and grins!!!

I thought I was just getting sloppy with some of my shifts, but now I read that there's a chance it's a design restriction!

Anyone do this mod on C5s???

Bill
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I searched high and low for this info. I had done it in my ws6. However, I bought a McLeod Master for my vette...it is night and day! WAAAY faster shifts, I have not missed one yet with it. I went a bit sideways going into 4th the day I tested it out. They are a bit pricey, and the engagement point narrows a bit, but it is well worthwhile.

Thunder Racing has them, I believe.
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how much for the master ??? does it change the line too?
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Originally Posted by beef
how much for the master ??? does it change the line too?
I posted a How To post here about 3 yrs ago illustrating how to modify all restrictions, including the hard 90 degree elbow. I cant seem to pull up any of my posts from that far back, but if you email me and I will send you those pics.

Robert Judd / Gen 3 MS
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where are the restrictions? i know there is a 90 elbow is there any way around it? what other restrictions?
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Originally Posted by beef
where are the restrictions? i know there is a 90 elbow is there any way around it? what other restrictions?
email me at rjudd@tqs.com and I will email you the pics of how to drill out/eliminate the 4 restrictions in the hydraulic system, to include the restriction in the hard elbow. Or, if someone could remind me how to host jpg pics in a post, I will do that (I havent done it since this site underwent its major face lift last year).

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Originally Posted by rwj383
email me at rjudd@tqs.com and I will email you the pics of how to drill out/eliminate the 3 restrictions in the hydraulic system, to include the restriction in the hard elbow. Or, if someone could remind me how to host jpg pics in a post, I will do that (I havent done it since this site underwent its major face lift last year).

Robert

asome sent u an e-mail

anyone else have any info???
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Robert's right. There are three, two are easy to get to and drill out, one is a beetch. Two years ago, when my clutch got the lazy pedal, I got 02 Zo6 pieces (which still have all three restrictors) and paid a hydraulics repair shop $50 to drill them out and reassemble. It was worth it. No more problems after 2 years of "spirited" driving, including drag racing.
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where are these restrictions??
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Originally Posted by beef
where are these restrictions??
There are actually 4 altogether (I said 3 in an earlier post).

I sent out an informative email w/pic tutorial to all those of you requesting such info. Should answer all questions raised here in this post. If someone could inform me how to post pics in a thread here I could do that, too.

Robert / Gen 3 MS
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I wish I knew all the stuff Robert knows. I went through a couple months of frustration with my car not being able to shift at high rpm about a year ago.

I replaced my 200 master cylinder with a McLeod unit and I have had zero problems for a year now.
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[QUOTE=kumar75150]I wish I knew all the stuff Robert knows. QUOTE]

That's not difficult Kumar!! Just bang your head against any concrete wall until your dizzy and walking in circles....
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Originally Posted by rwj383
There are actually 4 altogether (I said 3 in an earlier post).

I sent out an informative email w/pic tutorial to all those of you requesting such info. Should answer all questions raised here in this post. If someone could inform me how to post pics in a thread here I could do that, too.

Robert / Gen 3 MS

hey i have not recieved your e-mail i sent u an e-mail and pm too. can you please e-mail me trueraycer@aol.com thanks
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mcleod is local here in placentia/anaheim if anyones interested.

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i would like an email as well. alglll@yahoo.com
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Guys...

I don't think the "drill mod" is applicable on a C5.....Maybe someone else can chime in here, but I don't believe GM put the restriction in the C5 hydraulics like they did with the F-Body's. I have had all of the hydraulic lines apart on my car and didnt see any type of restrictive area. Even the 90' elbow had at least a .125 orifice if I recall. (GM's restriction in the F-Body is somewhere around .065 or so).

The McCloed should help as it has a slightly larger bore and will displace more fluid in the same length of pedal stroke helping to dis-engage the clutch a bit faster. On the flip side, there should be a slight increase in pedal pressure as well.

Tony M.

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Not true. As RWJ stated there are four. One in the slave and three in the hard line between the master and quick disconnect (I believe). If you get RWJ's document you will see them. This was all too much labor for me so the only one I can vouch for is the restriction in the slave.

It may be easier to just use a drilled out F-Body Master braided line if they are available separately from the master itself. I also remember hearing about people who have put adapters on 4 AN lines to take the place of the hard line.
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how much is mcleod master?
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mcleod master is 300 from thunder racing but i have heard lots of problems with the seals. my tuner will not offer a warrenty on the master if its a mcleod master. i am going to keep my stock and try the drill mod.


HAS ANYONE RECIEVED THIS DRILL MOD DOCUMENT??? I STILL HAVE NOT RECIEVED IT. if anyone has it please e-mail me with it thanks

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