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Old 01-23-2007, 12:24 AM
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Wanted to report on the progress. As you might imagine I can hardly wait to get her back next week!!!

Right now the car is at a very safe 5.5 lbs of boost and its putting down 577 rwhp and 530 rwtq with just the blower and LT's. Andy and I really wanted to get to the 600 rwhp number and its attainable (and maybe even a bit more) with an additional external fuel pump. So, thats going in this week.

This is what it should look like when done:



Traction is going to be a major issue (it was when it just had LTs and a tune). Andy suggests 19" grooved Hoosiers. We'll see....
Old 01-23-2007, 12:57 AM
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It should be a SCREEMER!!!!!!!!!
Congrats!!
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It should be a SCREEMER!!!!!!!!!
Congrats!!
Nice #,s good luck with traction
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Looks good!
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that should be some serious fun!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Pio
Wanted to report on the progress. As you might imagine I can hardly wait to get her back next week!!!

Right now the car is at a very safe 5.5 lbs of boost and its putting down 577 rwhp and 530 rwtq with just the blower and LT's. Andy and I really wanted to get to the 600 rwhp number and its attainable (and maybe even a bit more) with an additional external fuel pump. So, thats going in this week.

This is what it should look like when done:



Traction is going to be a major issue (it was when it just had LTs and a tune). Andy suggests 19" grooved Hoosiers. We'll see....
You should make 600 easy. I just put one on from Andy and make 578.69hp/524.52tq on my z51 07 vert.

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Based on the initial numbers, it would seem that the LS2/base C6 will be the platform of choice for fored induction because the LS2 is making the same power as the LS7 under boost.
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You should make 600 easy. I just put one on from Andy and make 578.69hp/524.52tq on my z51 07 vert.

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how much psi is being used to make that power on a LS2?
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I made 595.83 rwhp/ 556.95 rwtq with 8 lbs. of boost. If Pio thinks traction is going to be a problem in that Z06, come take a ride in my car...it's a TON worse!!!

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Originally Posted by 1k
Based on the initial numbers, it would seem that the LS2/base C6 will be the platform of choice for fored induction because the LS2 is making the same power as the LS7 under boost.
I disagree. He is running a very conservative 5.5 lbs of boost and he indicated the need for a fuel pump for more power. I'd be willing to bet the area under the curve is much better for the 7.0L with lower boost. Also, the less boost you have to run to make the power, the better. This will be a legit 9 second car, and with 8lbs of boost you are probably looking at 700 rwhp. Keep in mind the blown C6 Z06 is in it's baby stage right now also. As more tuning ability is available, this setup will make more and more power.


Pio,
The kit looks amazing! With the stock C6 Z06 running low 11's, the extra 150 rwhp is just going to be sick.

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Originally Posted by WeaponsGradeTorque
I disagree. He is running a very conservative 5.5 lbs of boost and he indicated the need for a fuel pump for more power. I'd be willing to bet the area under the curve is much better for the 7.0L with lower boost. Also, the less boost you have to run to make the power, the better. This will be a legit 9 second car, and with 8lbs of boost you are probably looking at 700 rwhp. Keep in mind the blown C6 Z06 is in it's baby stage right now also. As more tuning ability is available, this setup will make more and more power.


Pio,
The kit looks amazing! With the stock C6 Z06 running low 11's, the extra 150 rwhp will is just going to be sick.

I hope you are right.

However,
I base my opinions on the results from 3 different boosted C6 Zo6's.
All of them lead me to believe that once boosted,
the LS7 makes little or no additional power than a LS2.
When you then factor in the difference of MSRP betwenn the ZO6 and the coupe, the LS2 powered models seem to be the only choice.

Again,
I hope you are right and the LS7 make more power under boost.
But all results up to this point don't support that.
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Originally Posted by 1k
I hope you are right.

However,
I base my opinions on the results from 3 different boosted C6 Zo6's.
All of them lead me to believe that once boosted,
the LS7 makes little or no additional power than a LS2.
When you then factor in the difference of MSRP betwenn the ZO6 and the coupe, the LS2 powered models seem to be the only choice.

Again,
I hope you are right and the LS7 make more power under boost.
But all results up to this point don't support that.
The pistons on the stock LS7 are a little fragile so you have to be extra careful. I believe this is the reason you have to run less boost. If you main concern is compare $$$$$ spent, I can understand your point. But, which car do you think will depreciate more over the years? Last year, the C6Z was one of the best cars for holding value.

I will also say it's amazing how much power is being extracted out of the L2's. What a great motor!

Sorry for hijacking this thread Pio.

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Old 01-23-2007, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by WeaponsGradeTorque
I disagree. He is running a very conservative 5.5 lbs of boost and he indicated the need for a fuel pump for more power. I'd be willing to bet the area under the curve is much better for the 7.0L with lower boost. Also, the less boost you have to run to make the power, the better. This will be a legit 9 second car, and with 8lbs of boost you are probably looking at 700 rwhp. Keep in mind the blown C6 Z06 is in it's baby stage right now also. As more tuning ability is available, this setup will make more and more power.


Pio,
The kit looks amazing! With the stock C6 Z06 running low 11's, the extra 150 rwhp will is just going to be sick.
With 3 more pounds of boost, he should definately be around the 700rwhp mark. After being at ~600 rwhp, I just don't see how I am going to get all this power to the ground efficiently(besides body conversion/tires/suspension/clutch). I think a 577rwhp is much more planted than I am for sure. So I guess my question is, when is too much...too much??

John
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Originally Posted by pennys58
With 3 more pounds of boost, he should definately be around the 700rwhp mark. After being at ~600 rwhp, I just don't see how I am going to get all this power to the ground efficiently(besides body conversion/tires/suspension/clutch). I think a 577rwhp is much more planted than I am for sure. So I guess my question is, when is too much...too much??

John

I hear you John. It is too easy to be tempted to add more power to find out later that we have made our cars slower because traction because such a serious issue. Very good point.

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Originally Posted by 1k
I hope you are right.

However,
I base my opinions on the results from 3 different boosted C6 Zo6's.
All of them lead me to believe that once boosted,
the LS7 makes little or no additional power than a LS2.
When you then factor in the difference of MSRP betwenn the ZO6 and the coupe, the LS2 powered models seem to be the only choice.

Again,
I hope you are right and the LS7 make more power under boost.
But all results up to this point don't support that.
I once said maybe 1K liked A&A's products because he kinda acted like it.... I was wrong...

Now I will call him out like I HAVE BEFORE.... What does he have that is better??? Not I that have any interest in supporting A&A but I am sure this guys car on this thread is fine.

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Originally Posted by Chris310P
I once said maybe 1K liked A&A's products because he kinda acted like it.... I was wrong...

Now I will call him out like I HAVE BEFORE.... What does he have that is better??? NOT that I will support A&A at all....
This is truly a foolish post.

No one has criticized Andy or centrifugals in this thread.

My post has simply stated that FI LS7's have not shown to make more power that boosted LS2's.

Your prejudices have clouded your comprehension.

We are not discussing the future value of a depreciating asset.
I challenge anyone to refute my opinion that a LS2 powered C6 is a more logical platform to choose for forced induction.

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I have 10K that 1K won't show up at I 20 and Collins at the sonic at 8PM tomorrow night CST time and talk **** to my face....... If his cars are so fast and better than everyone elses.... Show up there will be a Ford GTTT, Viper with a 522TT, and lots of other 10 sec and faster cars.

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Old 01-24-2007, 12:01 AM
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Hey 1K moron, I'll challenge you. You up for it?
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Originally Posted by 1k
This is truly a foolish post.

No one has criticized Andy or centrifugals in this thread.

My post has simply stated that FI LS7's have not shown to make more power that boosted LS2's.

Your prejudices have clouded your comprehension.

We are not discussing the future value of a depreciating asset.
I challenge anyone to refute my opinion that a LS2 powered C6 is a more logical platform to choose for forced induction.
Please tell me that you were joking. Did you not read the post where penny said that he made 595rwhp at 8 lbs. of boost on his LS2?? A guy that lives here in Allen has his C6Z with 8lbs. is running at 704rwhp. So I guess that Penny was right and you were.... what? WRONG! Even my girl knew the difference that the LS7 compared to the LS2 made. You have 8lbs. of boost to each car, and which one will have more horsepower...??? hmm 595 (which is still insane, beautiful car btw) or 704?? That is the difference of 109rwhp. 204+ horsepower for the C6Z06 compared to 195+horsepower for the C6 LS2 over stock with 8lbs. of boost.

So which one is a better platform again?? The Winner is...... C6 Z06!!Simple math, which it seems you missed that class in 1st grade. Stop Highjacking threads, keep your opinions to yourself so we don't catch your "stupid" virus and maybe learn a thing or 2 from the guys here. They know what they are talking about. Why you might ask? Because they have been there, done that, and have that........!

Now to everyone else, I am sorry to highjacking the thread and apologize, I just hate it when people come on talking like they know everything and take away from peoples thread. Pio, beautiful car. You are damn lucky and if you ever get a chance to come to Dallas, let us know. We'll take ours out too and head out on the town. Great set up, and great install. Thanks for not letting loose on 1k and leaving it for me!! It's been long awaited!!! Have fun guys and be safe. Have fun with the car and yes, you will need Hoosiers or drag radials of some sort. lol
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Strong #'s on only 5.5 lbs of boost. Any worries about the pistons? Does anyone know the limits of the LS7?


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