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Old 09-30-2006, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by fredl11
"all thru 1st, trans left to shift itself in 'S' mode and TC/AH off. "
Please translate, I'm confused.

You left car is "S" mode and it shifts by itself??

Is my reading comprehension that bad?? I thought the reason for "S" is that we do the shifting.

I'm SOooo Confused
The S mode has two functions. Leave it in S mode and it will shift better if you are driving the car hard, without using the paddles. Or, you can use the paddles in S mode. It's your choice but probably will get better times in S mode and leave the paddles untouched.
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Would you mind sharing what your 60 ft. time was?
Old 09-30-2006, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SHOOTER 49
Think he already answered the suspension question---1LT with option of comp grey = base. Nice run.
1LT is not a suspension. You can have 1LT with base suspension, with F55, or with Z51.
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Originally Posted by JimTN
1LT is not a suspension. You can have 1LT with base suspension, with F55, or with Z51.
Did he not state 1lt with one option(comp grey)?
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Originally Posted by own2vettes
Plenty of FI cars out there running aluminum blocks without any problems. I believe the Ford GT is one them, isn't it?
yes, but ford has kill of that car now.
Old 09-30-2006, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SHOOTER 49
Did he not state 1lt with one option(comp grey)?
Yes, but some here don't think of Z51, F55 as options, although they are. But I see your point. However, I'd still like for the OP to answer, just to be sure.
Old 09-30-2006, 11:41 AM
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Very Nice Run!!!!

What was the 60'?

I still think you will get this car to a sub 12.5 as is.

Howard
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Originally Posted by R.Montgomery96
The S mode has two functions. Leave it in S mode and it will shift better if you are driving the car hard, without using the paddles. Or, you can use the paddles in S mode. It's your choice but probably will get better times in S mode and leave the paddles untouched.
Ok, if you go into paddle mode (let's say down shifting off an exit), can you use the paddles to get back to fully automatic or do you have to move the gear selector to D and then back to S?
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It's a good thing you didn't put any mods on and then go back. You would be convinced that they gave you 100 more hp.

Nice time.
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yes, but ford has kill of that car now.
I don't understand what this means.
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Originally Posted by own2vettes
I don't understand what this means.

Not sure either but I think it means Ford is no longer producing the Ford GT.
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Originally Posted by JimTN
Yes, but some here don't think of Z51, F55 as options, although they are. But I see your point. However, I'd still like for the OP to answer, just to be sure.

IMO if you have to pay extra for something, it's an option. That being said I don't think the OP should answer the question. I can forsee exactly how it will turn out.

If he has the Z51 then all the Z51 nut-swingers, will chime in saying, "See. Try doing that with a base or F55 set up." If it's a base or F55 then all the Z51 nut-kickers will chime in saying, "See. You don't need the Z51 to go fast." Followed by the pro Z51ers with, "You should have gotten the Z51. Your times would have been so much better." Then BS after BS after BS. Ultimately resulting in a lock of this thread. Now that wouldn't be fair to the OP who just wanted to share his delight in the excellent results he got with his C6. So everybody, including myself, leave the suspension out of this and just give the guy a congrats.
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Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
I don't believe that I understand your post. Z51 in an A6 offers no gearing advantage, nor any other advantage in a 1/4 mile drag strip pass.

If its a 6 speed automatic and he is just mashing the gas pedal and running it in a straight line, it would not matter if it is a Z51 or not.

I apologize. I completely fogot that he had an A6. Well in that case we definately don't need to hear what suspension he has. Hopefully the subject of suspension will end with my post then.:o
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Originally Posted by k0bun
IMO if you have to pay extra for something, it's an option. That being said I don't think the OP should answer the question. I can forsee exactly how it will turn out.

If he has the Z51 then all the Z51 nut-swingers, will chime in saying, "See. Try doing that with a base or F55 set up." If it's a base or F55 then all the Z51 nut-kickers will chime in saying, "See. You don't need the Z51 to go fast." Followed by the pro Z51ers with, "You should have gotten the Z51. Your times would have been so much better." Then BS after BS after BS. Ultimately resulting in a lock of this thread. Now that wouldn't be fair to the OP who just wanted to share his delight in the excellent results he got with his C6. So everybody, including myself, leave the suspension out of this and just give the guy a congrats.

I don't believe that I understand your post. Z51 in an A6 offers no gearing advantage, nor any other advantage, in a 1/4 mile drag strip pass vs a base A6.

If its a 6 speed automatic and he is just mashing the gas pedal and running it in a straight line, it would not matter if it is a Z51 or not.

If I were a drag racing enthusiast, and my car just had to be a C6 Vette, then the base automatic A6, with very few, if any options, would be my choice. Especially if I were bracket racing.

Its inexpensive for a C6 Vette, consistency is easier to obtain, launch is easier, I would want an automatic. Since I would be riding in a straight line in that automatic, Z51 would offer me little to no advantage over the base automatic.
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excellent There will be a lot of talking

My C3 435 HP stock was not that quick

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Originally Posted by k0bun
I apologize. I completely fogot that he had an A6. Well in that case we definately don't need to hear what suspension he has. Hopefully the subject of suspension will end with my post then.:o

If not there, then hopefully here.

As far as drag racing, and with the upcoming cooler weather, I would not be surprised at all if the quickest C6 on this board turns out to be an A6, either base, F55 or Z51. Drag racing enthusiasts tend to gravitate to the automatic.

Already, 8 out of the top 15 bone stock on that list are automatics of one suspension type or another. Either 3.15 geared '05 Z51s or 3.15 geared '05s as a stand alone option, or A6s. In either of the cases, Z51 would not have made a difference with the automatics in a 1/4 mile race. Unless a 2.73 geared '05 were in the mix. How would it?

With the A6, in a straight line race, ie 1/4 mile, it would seem that they should be all the same. I can't see where one A6, be it F55, Z51 or base, would really have the advantage over the other in a drag race.

Truth be known, I don't even know why they make A6s with Z51. To me, it makes about as much sense as putting an A6 into a C6 Z06.

Those cars, both Z51 and Z06, are built for the road racing and gymkhana enthusiast who is very likely to want a manual anyway.

In the Z06, all that fancy suspension, fancy 6 piston brakes, aluminum frame, 50/50 weight distribution, carbon fiber, just to run in a straight line for 11+ seconds?? In my opinion it would be a waste of machinery.

But to the original poster, congratulations on one heck of a run. Let the Mustang guys put that in their pipes and smoke it.

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Old 09-30-2006, 03:54 PM
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Nice time!

New England Dragway sits 90' above sea level, and with temps in the 50's at night I'm guessing you were running at -400 to - 700 Density Altitude.

Is that correct?
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Originally Posted by DSOM Z51
I don't believe that I understand your post. Z51 in an A6 offers no gearing advantage, nor any other advantage, in a 1/4 mile drag strip pass vs a base A6.

If its a 6 speed automatic and he is just mashing the gas pedal and running it in a straight line, it would not matter if it is a Z51 or not.

If I were a drag racing enthusiast, and my car just had to be a C6 Vette, then the base automatic A6, with very few, if any options, would be my choice. Especially if I were bracket racing.

Its inexpensive for a C6 Vette, consistency is easier to obtain, launch is easier, I would want an automatic. Since I would be riding in a straight line in that automatic, Z51 would offer me little to no advantage over the base automatic.
I had two C5's that dyno'd at exactly the same horsepower (one a convertible, one coupe). Also, one had Z51 and one had the base suspension. They both had the same tires (literally). I never could get as good of a 60' time on the Z51 car as the base car. My friends and I all believe it's because the base suspension allows better weight transfer when launching. Just food for thought.
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Originally Posted by Brett Hunter
Not sure either but I think it means Ford is no longer producing the Ford GT.
sorry for the confusion, yes, this is the last year of Ford GT. atleast for a (long)while.


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