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Old 10-25-2005, 06:30 PM
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That's a pronounced victory for the Z06.
Old 10-25-2005, 07:02 PM
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Awesome, thanks! I wonder how the viper guys are going to take this one. I remember more than a few of them here talking about how the viper would run away from the Z06 at the track. Now they seem very quiet.
Old 10-25-2005, 07:09 PM
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Like I've said before, what a great time to be an American sports car enthusiast!
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Wow the Z06 is just 1 tenth of a second behind the Ford at 100 mph......

The next comparison will include the 997TT and the 430.....
Old 10-25-2005, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TahoeM3
Awesome, thanks! I wonder how the viper guys are going to take this one. I remember more than a few of them here talking about how the viper would run away from the Z06 at the track. Now they seem very quiet.
i misunderstood something sorry
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i wasnt gonna say anything but since you made the dumb*ss remark im gonna say something. 1st of all yes corvette beat the viper in acceleration good job vette. but you say the track, please look at the mt times in the graph. who won? yup the viper did. please next use your eyes.
In the automobile comparo the Z06 beat the Viper at Gingerman by more than one second and here the Z06 beats the Viper again in the 1.6 mile course by more than one second.....
Old 10-25-2005, 07:16 PM
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LOL, the GT broke and he still talked like it was gods gift to the automotive kingdom. I bet if he actually owned it he wouldn't be feeling the same way.

PS. They shifted to 4th in the Quarter, I thought 3rd could be held. They didn't shift into 3rd in the GT. That might have made the results a little more interesting.
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In the automobile comparo the Z06 beat the Viper at Gingerman by more than one second and here the Z06 beats the Viper again in the 1.6 mile course by more than one second.....
didnt see the 1.6 mile course. my fault. vet is the king!
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Originally Posted by sween
i wasnt gonna say anything but since you made the dumb*ss remark im gonna say something. 1st of all yes corvette beat the viper in acceleration good job vette. but you say the track, please look at the mt times in the graph. who won? yup the viper did. please next use your eyes.
1.6 mile road coarse, Z06 75.4, Viper 76.7, GT 79.6.
MT's (silly imo) Figure Eight, Z06 24.4, Viper 24.3, GT 79.6.

Z06 pulled highest acceleration Gs (.71) and fastest speed (133mph) on the road coarse.

GT pulled slow figure eight to time due to gearing.

Viper pulled good figure eight time due to tires.
Old 10-25-2005, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sween
i wasnt gonna say anything but since you made the dumb*ss remark im gonna say something. 1st of all yes corvette beat the viper in acceleration good job vette. but you say the track, please look at the mt times in the graph. who won? yup the viper did. please next use your eyes.
Hey sween,

Did the Corvette not beat the Viper on the Road Course??? The Viper was a bit (hair) faster on the Figure 8, but as someone above mentioned, that favors cars like the Viper (big tires, etc).

Poor poor Viper.. haha..
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Originally Posted by sween
i wasnt gonna say anything but since you made the dumb*ss remark im gonna say something. 1st of all yes corvette beat the viper in acceleration good job vette. but you say the track, please look at the mt times in the graph. who won? yup the viper did. please next use your eyes.
Snap out of it, son

The Viper beat the Z by 0.1 secs throughout the figure 8, yet it lost to the Z by 1.3 secs on a roadcourse. Please explain to me how the Viper "won" on the track!?!
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Originally Posted by C6Sixspeed
Hey sween,

Did the Corvette not beat the Viper on the Road Course??? The Viper was a bit (hair) faster on the Figure 8, but as someone above mentioned, that favors cars like the Viper (big tires, etc).

Poor poor Viper.. haha..
Agreed

And, not to mention the Z on runflats!!

Sween, give it up man. There is a new king on the track, and this king is a fraction slower in a straight line than the 620 bhp FGT...
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Originally Posted by sween
i wasnt gonna say anything but since you made the dumb*ss remark im gonna say something. 1st of all yes corvette beat the viper in acceleration good job vette. but you say the track, please look at the mt times in the graph. who won? yup the viper did. please next use your eyes.
Ha ha...not sure what brought out the "dumb*ss remark" comment except for frustration. Now let's see...lemme put my eyes back in so I can take another look. I'm not sure which graph you're talking about, but the chart on the last page of the article clearly states track times on the 1.6 mile road course as 75.4 seconds for the Z06 and 76.7 seconds for the viper. How is that a win for the viper? You know when it comes to lap times, lower is better, right?
Old 10-25-2005, 07:25 PM
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Based on my experience with chassis dynos the corvette is not under rated by GM BUT Ford is SURELY under rating the GT.
Please understand that is not a complaint ...I have seen a lot of scatter in the MPH # on the GT for the 1/4 mile which in IMHO is the best indicator of what the output of the engine truely is...
BTW the Ford guys should get at least something for that $100k plus they are paying for the GT40
They don't get a practical 2 seater , poor fuel econmy, and 2nd rate handling.
They better up the boost and get some race fuel is they run into a lightly moded ZO6
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Originally Posted by sween
i wasnt gonna say anything but since you made the dumb*ss remark im gonna say something. 1st of all yes corvette beat the viper in acceleration good job vette. but you say the track, please look at the mt times in the graph. who won? yup the viper did. please next use your eyes.
huh? The last page shows the lap times, the vette was over a second faster.

75.4 secs for the vette and 76.7 for the viper. What are you looking at?
Old 10-25-2005, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sween
i wasnt gonna say anything but since you made the dumb*ss remark im gonna say something. 1st of all yes corvette beat the viper in acceleration good job vette. but you say the track, please look at the mt times in the graph. who won? yup the viper did. please next use your eyes.

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Old 10-25-2005, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by korvetkeith
1.6 mile road coarse, Z06 75.4, Viper 76.7, GT 79.6.
MT's (silly imo) Figure Eight, Z06 24.4, Viper 24.3, GT 79.6.

Z06 pulled highest acceleration Gs (.71) and fastest speed (133mph) on the road coarse.

GT pulled slow figure eight to time due to gearing.

Viper pulled good figure eight time due to tires.
the vette did pretty damn good, viper did ok and the fgt i thought should of been faster. is there anyway to make it clearer so we can read it better
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Originally Posted by sween
the vette did pretty damn good, viper did ok and the fgt i thought should of been faster. is there anyway to make it clearer so we can read it better
The GT was only slower on the track because the driver was unable to push it. I know a car with that much HP would be hard to drive fast, but they need to hire a hot shoe for things like this.
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Great article with a terrific closing line which speaks to the mission of all performance cars. Great performances by the cars tested. Quite frankly I would be proud to park all three in my garage.



P.S., the dyno results make for very, very, very curious reading in light of the new SAE tests.


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