help injector trouble
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help injector trouble
got some remanufactured injectors from ebay south bay injectors bosch 111 design for 85-91 corvette. They are shorter than the stock will they work?? has anyone used these injectors?
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those injectors will not work unless the mounts are modified.. The o rings will not go into the rail far enough.
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Here’s the deal with these injectors. Years ago we knew the Multecs were crap. My son had a 89 TA with bad injectors.. Being in the business for 30 +yrs, we looked for a better alternative for the Pink Top Bosch 22. We started playing around with different injectors that would work well. The specs of the Bosch 3 was a perfect match except for the height. We sold these for years but the intake towers had to be cut to accommodate them because there was no provision to use the clip. We solved the problem by modifying the mount on the injector so it will replace the Multec. The video shows how ours fit. This guy South Bay evidently just got in the business. If you look at his e bay store he was selling doll clothing in April of this year. He copied our listings almost word for word. I even made intentional mistakes on our listing just to see him copy them. The injector will work but the o ring will not seat in the upper fuel rail correctly. The injector in the stage you have will fit in a BMW, or any v8 Ford. It will also fit 4.5-4.9 Caddy.. But it will not fit a TPI from 85-91 safely.
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Have a "87" with 49 K plus miles on it.Had origional injectors "knew previous owner".72 year old gentleman bought it new.
Replaced injectors with Accell injectors I bought at Summit racing.What a differance.Replaced EGR since I had it apart anyway.New plugs"AC Rapid fire"-wires"Taylor"-Distributor cap"AC Delco OEM"-GM "OEM Rotor".Runs like new.
Replaced injectors with Accell injectors I bought at Summit racing.What a differance.Replaced EGR since I had it apart anyway.New plugs"AC Rapid fire"-wires"Taylor"-Distributor cap"AC Delco OEM"-GM "OEM Rotor".Runs like new.
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You have to be careful on Ebay. Anybody can open an Ebay store in about 10 minutes and sell anything. Ebay does not regulate anything.
You can get ripped off or you can find really good deals. I think there is way too much fraud on Ebay. Ebay was just fined sixty three million dollars by a French Judge. They have filed an appeal. Ebay has many copyright infringement and consumer fraud lawsuits pending against them. Read about it in the Wall Street Journal here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1214...googlenews_wsj
You can get ripped off or you can find really good deals. I think there is way too much fraud on Ebay. Ebay was just fined sixty three million dollars by a French Judge. They have filed an appeal. Ebay has many copyright infringement and consumer fraud lawsuits pending against them. Read about it in the Wall Street Journal here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1214...googlenews_wsj
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You have to be careful on Ebay. Anybody can open an Ebay store in about 10 minutes and sell anything. Ebay does not regulate anything.
You can get ripped off or you can find really good deals. I think there is way too much fraud on Ebay. Ebay was just fined sixty three million dollars by a French Judge. They have filed an appeal. Ebay has many copyright infringement and consumer fraud lawsuits pending against them. Read about it in the Wall Street Journal here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1214...googlenews_wsj
You can get ripped off or you can find really good deals. I think there is way too much fraud on Ebay. Ebay was just fined sixty three million dollars by a French Judge. They have filed an appeal. Ebay has many copyright infringement and consumer fraud lawsuits pending against them. Read about it in the Wall Street Journal here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1214...googlenews_wsj
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Here’s the deal with these injectors. Years ago we knew the Multecs were crap. My son had a 89 TA with bad injectors.. Being in the business for 30 +yrs, we looked for a better alternative for the Pink Top Bosch 22. We started playing around with different injectors that would work well. The specs of the Bosch 3 was a perfect match except for the height. We sold these for years but the intake towers had to be cut to accommodate them because there was no provision to use the clip. We solved the problem by modifying the mount on the injector so it will replace the Multec. The video shows how ours fit. This guy South Bay evidently just got in the business. If you look at his e bay store he was selling doll clothing in April of this year. He copied our listings almost word for word. I even made intentional mistakes on our listing just to see him copy them. The injector will work but the o ring will not seat in the upper fuel rail correctly. The injector in the stage you have will fit in a BMW, or any v8 Ford. It will also fit 4.5-4.9 Caddy.. But it will not fit a TPI from 85-91 safely.
Jon, could you clarify your post? I'm a little confused because you first said it wouldn't fit. I assume the injector will fit and the car will run but the O-ring will not seat properly. Your video says it's "OK" to run this injector.
So, it seems that it will work but it might leak fuel. I'm asking this because there might be forum members running the wrong injector.
Last edited by Kool88vette; 07-06-2008 at 11:40 AM.
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Jon, could you clarify your post? I'm a little confused because you first said it wouldn't fit. I assume the injector will fit and the car will run but the O-ring will not seat properly.
So, it seems that it will work but it might leak fuel. I'm asking this because there might be forum members running the wrong injector.
So, it seems that it will work but it might leak fuel. I'm asking this because there might be forum members running the wrong injector.
Last edited by FICINJECTORS; 07-06-2008 at 12:16 PM.
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Jon, could you clarify your post? I'm a little confused because you first said it wouldn't fit. I assume the injector will fit and the car will run but the O-ring will not seat properly. Your video says it's "OK" to run this injector.
So, it seems that it will work but it might leak fuel. I'm asking this because there might be forum members running the wrong injector.
So, it seems that it will work but it might leak fuel. I'm asking this because there might be forum members running the wrong injector.
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Fred the video is for the multec's the orig Bosch is the replacement here. The Multecs are in 89 and up. These will work in them. I am just not comfortable with the results without our mod. Thats all. But the towers on the earlier manifolds are higher, Would you like this guy to have a fuel leak? Sounds like you wan't him to put them in.. He can. but the risk of a leak is there. They might not even fit at all. The original poster has not even told us what they are doing. Are they in the car? Are they leaking?
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ok fred.. As long as we are on the same page..I wish the poster would stay involved and let us know where he is with the install. I have sent PM's and heard nothing.. Maybe he's talking to South Bay FI on a sunday Do you think?
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on 85 to 88 the towers that hold the fuel rail are 1/8 inch higher than the 89-91. The orig Bosch injector that use this manifold are 65mm o ring to o-ring. The replacements are all 60mm including the Bosch 3. All replacements that have the clip slot will work because the injector is not seated in the manifold but rather held up and in by the clip. The Bosch 3 has to have a modification done that will enable it to lock between the rail and the manifold with the o ring going into the fuel rail at the desired height. (SEE VIDEO) we always look for ways to impove our product. We came up with this mod. The Bosch 3 that we sell fits in these manifolds perfectly. Its ok to use others, but if you have a manifold that has the higher towers it will leak. You will know when you test for leaks prior to putting on the plenum..
If You Own An 86 Read This Before Changing Injectors.
The 86 For Some Reason Has An 1/8 Additional Height On The Injector Stands. These Manifolds Were Made At A Different Foundry Than The 85, 87-91. The Clips Actually Hold The Injector Up Into The Rail And The Bottom Does Not Seat All The Way Down In The Manifold. Also Some 86's Do Have The Proper Height Stands. If You Find Out That When You Put Any Aftermarket Injector In With The 60mm O Ring To O Ring Spacing That Your Injector Won't Seat Follow These Steps.. It Is Advisable Not To Use The Clips To Hold The Injector Up. If The Clip Rusts Away The Injector Will Lower And Cause A Leak. What We Advise Is To Take A Piece Of 1/8 Tape Around The Top Of Each Of The 4 Stands And Grind Off The 1/8 Inch. This Is Simple To Do. Not Only Will The Injector Seat Properly, But You Will Not Have To Rely On Those Tiny Weak Clips To Hold The Injector In The Rail. Any Later Injector Swaps Will Also Be Easier Because Now There Is Enough Room To Remove Them Without Taking Off The Runners. All Other Years Including The Lt1's Do Not Need The Clip And Have The Proper Height. You Can Also Trim Those Years To Make It Easier Next Time. We Have Personally Installed Injectors On Every Year. Meanwhile Mike263 Did Not Buy His Injectors From Us. I Called Him And Walked Him Through What He Needs To Do. Fires Scare Me!!
The 86 For Some Reason Has An 1/8 Additional Height On The Injector Stands. These Manifolds Were Made At A Different Foundry Than The 85, 87-91. The Clips Actually Hold The Injector Up Into The Rail And The Bottom Does Not Seat All The Way Down In The Manifold. Also Some 86's Do Have The Proper Height Stands. If You Find Out That When You Put Any Aftermarket Injector In With The 60mm O Ring To O Ring Spacing That Your Injector Won't Seat Follow These Steps.. It Is Advisable Not To Use The Clips To Hold The Injector Up. If The Clip Rusts Away The Injector Will Lower And Cause A Leak. What We Advise Is To Take A Piece Of 1/8 Tape Around The Top Of Each Of The 4 Stands And Grind Off The 1/8 Inch. This Is Simple To Do. Not Only Will The Injector Seat Properly, But You Will Not Have To Rely On Those Tiny Weak Clips To Hold The Injector In The Rail. Any Later Injector Swaps Will Also Be Easier Because Now There Is Enough Room To Remove Them Without Taking Off The Runners. All Other Years Including The Lt1's Do Not Need The Clip And Have The Proper Height. You Can Also Trim Those Years To Make It Easier Next Time. We Have Personally Installed Injectors On Every Year. Meanwhile Mike263 Did Not Buy His Injectors From Us. I Called Him And Walked Him Through What He Needs To Do. Fires Scare Me!!
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Jon, you made an earlier post in regards to the '86 having a 1/8" higher towers. Here is the quote:
I have an '86 and recently installed a set of your GenIII's. It leaked badly on first test and, after finding the above post, I did the mod and ground off 1/8" of material. That did the trick and I must say, these injectors make it run smooth as new. Big difference. So my question is about the '86 intake. Is it an additional 1/8" higher than the other pre 89 intakes?
I have an '86 and recently installed a set of your GenIII's. It leaked badly on first test and, after finding the above post, I did the mod and ground off 1/8" of material. That did the trick and I must say, these injectors make it run smooth as new. Big difference. So my question is about the '86 intake. Is it an additional 1/8" higher than the other pre 89 intakes?
Last edited by FICINJECTORS; 07-06-2008 at 01:24 PM.