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Old 08-25-2007, 01:28 AM
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Default [VIPER MEGA MERGER} C6 Z06 Ties 2008 Viper in MotorTrend....

VIPER:
0-60 3.5 sec top speed 202
1/4 mile 11.6 at 126

Z06:
0-60 3.7 top speed 198
1/4 mile 11.7 125 mph

And the '08 Viper costs $900 less than the same '06 car, thanks to 17% better fuel milage and a lower gas tax.

Sorry guys ... I have an '08 roadster (bright blue with white stripes) on-order at INVOICE, due in March (when that color is released). Loaded, with NAV, etc, it will be less than $84K

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9brEj...related&search

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Originally Posted by VETTEMANN
VIPER:
0-60 3.5 sec top speed 202
1/4 mile 11.6 at 126

Z06:
0-60 3.7 top speed 198
1/4 mile 11.7 125 mph

And the '08 Viper costs $900 less than the same '06 car, thanks to 17% better fuel milage and a lower gas tax.

Sorry guys ... I have an '08 roadster (bright blue with white stripes) on-order at INVOICE, due in March (when that color is released). Loaded, with NAV, etc, it will be less than $84K

I am honestly suprised you would come over and brag about this. A tenth in the quarter mile is NOTHING. I've said it before, Z06 owners just need to put on a $200 dollar air filter and they have the faster car. Not impressed dude, seriously. All I've been hearing about is how the 2008 Viper would be so much faster than the Z06.

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Old 08-25-2007, 01:35 AM
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I am honestly suprised you would come over and brag about this. A tenth in the quarter mile is NOTHING. I've said it before, Z06 owners just need to put on a $200 dollar air filter and they have the faster car.
Ahhh, not really true. The Z06 runs a 3.42 rear gear vs. the Viper's 3.07. A 3.33 rear gear will be my first and only mod ... it will be MUCH quicker than the Z06 (which will need more than an air filter to keep up)
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MUCH quicker? doubt it
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Originally Posted by VETTEMANN
Ahhh, not really true. The Z06 runs a 3.42 rear gear vs. the Viper's 3.07. A 3.33 rear gear will be my first and only mod ... it will be MUCH quicker than the Z06 (which will need more than an air filter to keep up)
so then your car will be modded compared to a stock Z
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i think its pretty patheticthe viper is one mph, and a tenth in the quarter mile faster than the Z06, while having 100 hp more, and being a naturally aspirated V-10...

on the bright side, at least now its a driver's race

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Originally Posted by VETTEMANN
Ahhh, not really true. The Z06 runs a 3.42 rear gear vs. the Viper's 3.07. A 3.33 rear gear will be my first and only mod ... it will be MUCH quicker than the Z06 (which will need more than an air filter to keep up)
I think the previous generation Viper folk are better off sending their car to Heffner rather than upgrading to the 08. They will have a faster car and it will look better.
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Originally Posted by VETTEMANN
VIPER:
0-60 3.5 sec top speed 202
1/4 mile 11.6 at 126

Z06:
0-60 3.7 top speed 198
1/4 mile 11.7 125 mph

And the '08 Viper costs $900 less than the same '06 car, thanks to 17% better fuel milage and a lower gas tax.

Sorry guys ... I have an '08 roadster (bright blue with white stripes) on-order at INVOICE, due in March (when that color is released). Loaded, with NAV, etc, it will be less than $84K

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9brEj...related&search
I said this in another thread but since you posted the exact same post in that I'll repreat myself....

It's all about what YOU want but if you're so concerned about price and fuel economy why not spend 10K less for a ZO6 that's just as fast, 300 lbs lighter, better looking, better interior, better handling, much more sexier, better sounding, and has better fuel economy???

Sort of a no brainer in my opinion, but I you get what makes you feel more superior inside
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I expected more out of the Viper.........
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Originally Posted by VETTEMANN
VIPER:
0-60 3.5 sec top speed 202
1/4 mile 11.6 at 126

Z06:
0-60 3.7 top speed 198
1/4 mile 11.7 125 mph

And the '08 Viper costs $900 less than the same '06 car, thanks to 17% better fuel milage and a lower gas tax.

Sorry guys ... I have an '08 roadster (bright blue with white stripes) on-order at INVOICE, due in March (when that color is released). Loaded, with NAV, etc, it will be less than $84K

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9brEj...related&search

Watching that video.... how can anyone NOT think that car is amazingly hot!!!!

LOVE the green!
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Honestly, I like the red or the blue with the stripes. That looks hot. The plain green does not look good in my opinion..............
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Originally Posted by WeaponsGradeTorque
I am honestly suprised you would come over and brag about this. A tenth in the quarter mile is NOTHING. I've said it before, Z06 owners just need to put on a $200 dollar air filter and they have the faster car. Not impressed dude, seriously. All I've been hearing about is how the 2008 Viper would be so much faster than the Z06.
Translation "If I make my car modified, it will be faster than another stock car" (duh)

And if the other car modifies his too? 1mph from ONE TEST SO FAR. And one second faster around VIR! No small accomplishment. What if other tests have it 2-3mph ahead? Its ok, you guys have a term for that... I think its "a drivers race". But of course a previous model SRT vs. 06Z06 is not a drivers race, that is a complete blowout and an assured win for the Z, because this is justification-world where any excuse may be used and believed to justify that one's car is superior, even when it's not in certain metrics.

Vipers usually respond very well to flow mods. I wouldn't think you are going to want to run a Viper with similar mods to the modded car you describe. Same goes for headers and exhaust.

In short, don't go there.
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Originally Posted by Slow Vette
i think its pretty patheticthe viper is one mph, and a tenth in the quarter mile faster than the Z06, while having 100 hp more, and being a naturally aspirated V-10...

on the bright side, at least now its a driver's race
Thats just ONE test. And a second faster around VIR is nothing to sneeze at.

Ahh, you used the "drivers race" card. I guess the same as how it's a drivers race between an 03 SRT-10 and an 06Z06, right?
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Originally Posted by blitzu
I said this in another thread but since you posted the exact same post in that I'll repreat myself....

It's all about what YOU want but if you're so concerned about price and fuel economy why not spend 10K less for a ZO6 that's just as fast, 300 lbs lighter, better looking, better interior, better handling, much more sexier, better sounding, and has better fuel economy???

Sort of a no brainer in my opinion, but I you get what makes you feel more superior inside
I replied to your post in the other thread too - problem is the Z06 isn't just as fast, it's slower. It doesn't handle better, it handles worse (1 second around VIR in the only test I've seen). So slower, and worse handling. As for looks, nobody can seriously watch the video posted above and think a C6Z looks better? Well, they can think so, but any unbiased public poll would disagree.

As for fuel economy - oh boy... I hear the Prius gets good mileage! Sound in the video above is great! And no GM or Dodge is ever going to sound as good as a Mustang 5.0 with flowmasters. Sorry but it's true! So the Mustang is the better car? Hardly.
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Originally Posted by fastturbovette
Thats just ONE test. And a second faster around VIR is nothing to sneeze at.

Ahh, you used the "drivers race" card. I guess the same as how it's a drivers race between an 03 SRT-10 and an 06Z06, right?
if you want to call a Z06 beating it by 3 cars a driver's race, then it is but i certainly don't think it is

ONE test, how about edmunds test??? i guess you don't count that one right? your too funny

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Originally Posted by VETTEMANN
VIPER:
0-60 3.5 sec top speed 202
1/4 mile 11.6 at 126

Z06:
0-60 3.7 top speed 198
1/4 mile 11.7 125 mph

And the '08 Viper costs $900 less than the same '06 car, thanks to 17% better fuel milage and a lower gas tax.

Sorry guys ... I have an '08 roadster (bright blue with white stripes) on-order at INVOICE, due in March (when that color is released). Loaded, with NAV, etc, it will be less than $84K

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9brEj...related&search
so here's the thing...most "car guys" will appreciate both cars. Most "people" will think that something with 100 more horsepower would be a lot quicker than the Z06..at least using your comparison...or at least not brag about it with words like "sorry guys"..as if something really wrong just happened. Watched the video...nice car...worth posting a thread making it seem as if its that much better than a Z06...not so sure about that...
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Originally Posted by fastturbovette
Translation "If I make my car modified, it will be faster than another stock car" (duh)

And if the other car modifies his too? 1mph from ONE TEST SO FAR. And one second faster around VIR! No small accomplishment. What if other tests have it 2-3mph ahead? Its ok, you guys have a term for that... I think its "a drivers race". But of course a previous model SRT vs. 06Z06 is not a drivers race, that is a complete blowout and an assured win for the Z, because this is justification-world where any excuse may be used and believed to justify that one's car is superior, even when it's not in certain metrics.

Vipers usually respond very well to flow mods. I wouldn't think you are going to want to run a Viper with similar mods to the modded car you describe. Same goes for headers and exhaust.

In short, don't go there.

It's a drivers race dude.

The 06 Viper vs the 06 Z06 had a 5 MPH difference in the 1/4 according to C&D and Motor Trend tests. Now we are only talking about 1 MPH difference reported by both C&D and Edmunds. Motor Trend will have similar results as C&D just like they did in the past. In fact, Motor Trend actually showed a larger gap in perfromance between the 06 Z06 and 06 Viper compared to C&D.

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I was reading in Viperalley that they expect to see a 130 trap speed in the 1/4, and their "ranger" should hit 10s bone stock with street tires. That would be impressive. I'm skeptical but damn that would be awesome.
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Both are great cars. How's the torque with the Viper at highway speeds and gearing? I suspect with 100HP more on tap, that is where most of the differences in power will show up compared to 1/4 times.

With as much power as these cars have, it's unlikely we'd see much difference in 0-60 and 1/4 miles times, it's not like anyone is going to halve or even take precious seconds off any of these current times anytime soon.

More accurate specs for real world use may be 60-100mph, 100-200mph, etc.

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Originally Posted by fastturbovette
As for looks, nobody can seriously watch the video posted above and think a C6Z looks better? Well, they can think so, but any unbiased public poll would disagree.
1. At least now we can save the money we were going to spend on the poll since we can simply ask you. Google "Argumentum ad populum"

2. I must have missed falling into the time portal - feels like I'm back in junior high school. Wow.

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