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Old 08-15-2006, 08:37 PM
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Beautiful Day …. Got ’99 out of garage to drive and then decide to take ’65 …. Started it up put on seat belt ….Push in clutch and BOOM…Clutch pedal broke off

I knew it needed repair BUT I was waiting until I removed dash to install Harness, A/C, Radio/speaker, etc. No more waiting.

So out with Tilt Column I just installed a few weeks ago, remove Master Cylinder then pedal support assembly.

So much for going our for a drive

Question at bottom

Here is what it looks like:










Questions:

(1) Should I weld or buy new pedal ($70 ouch)?

(2) If weld, then, in the 2nd pic above the is a crack in the pedal. I think that when shaft is welded I can weld pedal at same time and it will hold. What do you think?

(3) I the 3rd pic above there are 2 hole 1) for normal pedal travel and 2) for shorter travel. Which is which I could find in manuals?

(4) After I had everything on the work bench and was removing tools from floor of vette I found washer/spacer/?? in pic 4 above. Where does it go?

Thanks

George
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Ouch...at least you were able to drive the 99...

Not sure about questions 2-4, but if it were me, for $70, I would just buy a new pedal.
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Weld it. Original design is a little marginal.

I had a new pin made about 5/8"(?) longer and necked down on the pedal end (don't forget the snap ring groove). Welded up pedal arm and drilled it out to match the necked down portion of the new pin. The new pin protruded thru the arm 1/8"-3/16" to give me space for a nice fillet weld.

Back in the old days I had a super stiff 11" clutch and broke every item in the clutch linkage one time or another.

Don't remember a spacer like that.
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Exact same thing happened to me in my 63 SWC, it took about four hours just to remove the "horseshoe" collar which houses the clutch and brake pedal. I did not even hesitate to buy a new one, if you weld it you run the risk of "BUBBAIZING" the car..... I vote for a new one.....

Forgot to add, I bought a new pedal from LI Corvette.
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I had the original pedal welded considering some of the repro parts are made with thinner guage metal. I bought the weld on kit whiich has a new shaft that gets welded onto the pedal. $12 compared to $80 and it's fine so far.
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How about questions 3 & 4?

Anybody

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On #4 I think there is a spacer that goes where the clutch push rod attaches to the clutch pedal with the clip. #3 I remember reading that one of the two ways you setup the clutch it will engage quicker (sort of a racing set up and stock) but as to which one is which you'd have to check the manual.
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Originally Posted by Black_Magic
How about questions 3 & 4?

Anybody

George
If that's a really thick washer with a hole in it the same size as the (broken) pin on the pedal, it goes between the clutch pushrod and the clutch pedal, on the pin; its purpose is to space the pushrod away from the pedal so the front edge of the pedal doesn't interfere with the round portion of the pushrod when you depress the clutch pedal.
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Here are some pics of the "Linkage adjustment to reduce clutch pedal travel to permit fast release and more rapid gear shifting" ( Quoted from the Owners Guide ).
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Looks like bubba lost your original spacer, here is what it should look like.
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One more thing you may have to do is turn the clutch pedal push rod so that the bend in the rod is facing " up ". It depends which way bubba put it in the last time.

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Serveral Reasons To Replace with new....

(1)... It's a PITA to take apart again if your repair should Fail..

(2)... Piece of mind Knowing that it'a a brand new part..

(3)...Brake Pedal is Connected to this assembly..(Thought in back of your mind as you tool down the highway..Gee...I wounder if that brake pedal will snap.. )

(4)...It's only Money and This is a C-2 which requires money to operate.
Think of it as ..Rebuilding your C-2 While Driving it.

(5)...Bragging rights ...being able to say..Heh...I just spent the money for a new one..

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[ QUOTE=buns;1556528886]Here are some pics of the "Linkage adjustment to reduce clutch pedal travel to permit fast release and more rapid gear shifting" ( Quoted from the Owners Guide ).
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Looks like bubba lost your original spacer, here is what it should look like.
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One more thing you may have to do is turn the clutch pedal push rod so that the bend in the rod is facing " up ". It depends which way bubba put it in the last time.[/QUOTE]

went on search for this information, you had it, nice pictures,
helped me out , just replacing clutch pedal and could not remember
where it was set for normal clutch setting.

fredski
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I would definitely replace it. You can weld up the stress crack but you may find that area of metal has weakened. I would not take a chance.
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You have a classic car and your cringing about spending $70 to repair something correctly ?
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Originally Posted by GCD1962
You have a classic car and your cringing about spending $70 to repair something correctly ?
Because the original design is a piece of crap! Square corner hole is a stress riser. Upset end is a poor attachment method.

Why I made my own.
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Originally Posted by Black_Magic
Beautiful Day …. Got ’99 out of garage to drive and then decide to take ’65 …. Started it up put on seat belt ….Push in clutch and BOOM…Clutch pedal broke off

I knew it needed repair BUT I was waiting until I removed dash to install Harness, A/C, Radio/speaker, etc. No more waiting.

So out with Tilt Column I just installed a few weeks ago, remove Master Cylinder then pedal support assembly.

So much for going our for a drive

Question at bottom

Here is what it looks like:










Questions:

(1) Should I weld or buy new pedal ($70 ouch)?

(2) If weld, then, in the 2nd pic above the is a crack in the pedal. I think that when shaft is welded I can weld pedal at same time and it will hold. What do you think?

(3) I the 3rd pic above there are 2 hole 1) for normal pedal travel and 2) for shorter travel. Which is which I could find in manuals?

(4) After I had everything on the work bench and was removing tools from floor of vette I found washer/spacer/?? in pic 4 above. Where does it go?

Thanks

George
1 & 2) ground out and properly welded, it should be good as new.

3) the hole combination that makes the pedal rest closer to the floor, when it is fully up, is the 'fast' position

4) the washer looks like an 'extra' part; OR, what John Z says...

Bill
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Originally Posted by wmf62
4) the washer looks like an 'extra' part; OR, what John Z says...

Bill
There are two washers that go on the pin where the pedal pushrod connects; the inner one (.200" thick) goes between the pushrod and the bracket, and the outer one (thinner, about 1/8") goes between the pushrod and the pretzel clip that retains the pushrod on the pin.

The inner (thick) washer acts as a spacer - it moves the flat end of the pushrod far enough away from the bracket that the round portion of the pushrod won't interfere with the edge of the bracket when the pedal is fully depressed.
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Replace it! My pedal had been welded unkown to me. Snapped just as I pulled in the garage....Lucky me! The metal on your pedal is already stressed. I put a new one in and I am much more confident when I slam on the clutch. $70.00 for a safety issue is money well spent.

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Since this was originally posted in August , 2006, I think Black_Magic might have it figgered out by now.


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Originally Posted by buns
Since this was originally posted in August , 2006, I think Black_Magic might have it figgered out by now.



Yea, Simple FIx.......Bought NEW and installed 5 years ago

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Originally Posted by Black_Magic
Yea, Simple FIx.......Bought NEW and installed 5 years ago

George
This is funny!!!


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