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phantasms 07-02-2014 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Smirky Maximus (Post 1587270201)
A lot of nervous/anxious suits at GM today after this news broke hahaha.
I was considering a stingray or the new z06 or even a zl1 but now I'm waiting to see what this cat is all about.

"Most powerful muscle car ever". Pretty awesome to be able to say that. Can't wait to test drive that thing.

If you are really cross-shopping a C7Z06 and a Hellcat you should get, and deserve, the Hellcat. :)

sting ya 07-02-2014 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by phantasms (Post 1587270512)
If you are really cross-shopping a C7Z06 and a Hellcat you should get, and deserve, the Hellcat. :)

True- they really are totally different cars and almost should not be in the same category :yesnod:

Smirky Maximus 07-02-2014 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by C7pimp (Post 1587270503)
If you pass up a C7 Z06 for this, you win retard of the century award.

The Z06 will still be quicker and faster in a straight line by a considerable amount. Let's not even discuss track, because the Z06 destroys basically anything let alone a 4300 lb pig built on an oversized sedan chassis.

Not the case pal.
If I can have just as much fun in a car that costs 65K as opposed to a 90k + car then guess which one I'm gonna pick.

I'm not buying my next car to only drive it on sunny Sundays. My next car is going to get used, a lot.

Plus I'd get a back seat so I can bring my WHOLE family to a car show or a cruise night and Not have to pick just one.

Smirky Maximus 07-02-2014 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by phantasms (Post 1587270512)
If you are really cross-shopping a C7Z06 and a Hellcat you should get, and deserve, the Hellcat. :)

Easy fella

I'm shopping for a car period.

I'm a fan of cars NOT car manufactures like some of you here.

svtkeith 07-02-2014 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Smirky Maximus (Post 1587270865)
Not the case pal.
If I can have just as much fun in a car that costs 65K as opposed to a 90k + car then guess which one I'm gonna pick.

I'm not buying my next car to only drive it on sunny Sundays. My next car is going to get used, a lot.

Plus I'd get a back seat so I can bring my WHOLE family to a car show or a cruise night and Not have to pick just one.



Well said bud and I agree with you get the car YOU like not what someone else thinks is the best for you..I can't believe the attacks from some people on here just because someone is considers another car besides the Vette...Chill folks....:crazy2:

MEJ 07-02-2014 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Smirky Maximus (Post 1587270900)
Easy fella

I'm shopping for a car period.

I'm a fan of cars NOT car manufactures like some of you here.

I like your style, sir.
:thumbs:

Glenn Quagmire 07-02-2014 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by C7pimp (Post 1587270503)
If you pass up a C7 Z06 for this, you win retard of the century award.

This made me chuckle a bit, before I thought about the fact that the same logic could be applied to anyone who has purchased a base or Z51 instead of waiting for the Z06. So far, I think that makes about 30,000+ retards.

Smirky Maximus 07-02-2014 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by svtkeith (Post 1587271228)
Well said bud and I agree with you get the car YOU like not what someone else thinks is the best for you..I can't believe the attacks from some people on here just because someone is considers another car besides the Vette...Chill folks....:crazy2:


Originally Posted by MEJ (Post 1587271347)
I like your style, sir.
:thumbs:

Thank you gentlemen.

It's good to see there are some true car guys on this forum who really get what the real car culture thing is about.

Hirohawa 07-02-2014 05:48 PM

From Motortrend:

"By surpassing the GT500, the 2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat takes its place as the most powerful mass-produced American car ever."

Impressive, most impressive.

Hats off to Dodge that is a helluva accomplishment in this day and age.

:flag:

svtkeith 07-02-2014 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Hirohawa (Post 1587271878)
From Motortrend:

"By surpassing the GT500, the 2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat takes its place as the most powerful mass-produced American car ever."

Impressive, most impressive.

Hats off to Dodge that is a helluva accomplishment in this day and age.

:flag:




I agree hats off to Dodge...I think we are so fortunate to be living and enjoying modern day HP war just like they did during the 60's....:rock:

jr3 07-02-2014 05:54 PM

The Dodge could have 1,707hp and still wouldn't want it.. It's a ugly car.

I'd still rather have the Z.

BOBSZ06 07-02-2014 06:04 PM

Well GM/Camaro......What say you?

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/07/02/b...ure/#continued

Under $50,000 – pounds per horsepower
1.2014 Ford Mustang GT ($31,210) – 8.614
2.2014 Dodge Challenger SRT ($40,485) – 9.002
3.2014 Chevrolet Camaro SS ($34,350) – 9.174

4.2014 Dodge Charger SRT ($44,385) – 9.272
5.2014 Chevrolet SS ($43,475) – 9.578
6.2014 Mercedes-Benz CLA45 AMG ($48,375) – 9.842
7.2014 Nissan 370Z ($29,990) – 9.873
8.2014 Hyundai Genesis 5.0 R-Spec ($47,400) – 9.883
9.2014 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 R-Spec ($29,350) – 10.328
10.2014 Volvo S60 T6 AWD R-Design ($42,700) – 10.855


Under $100,000 – pounds per horsepower
1.2014 Ford Shelby GT500 ($55,110) – 5.808
2.2014 Jaguar F-Type R Coupe ($99,000) – 6.615
3.2014 Chevy Camaro ZL1 ($55,355) – 7.103
4.2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray ($53,000) – 7.248
5.2014 Jaguar F-Type S ($92,000)– 7.416
6.2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 ($72,300) **– 7.564
7.2014 Cadillac CTS-V Coupe ($64,900) – 7.585
8.2014 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan ($64,900)– 7.590
9.2014 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG S ($99,770)– 7.697
10.2014 Porsche 911 Carrera S ($98,900) – 7.688

1985 Corvette 07-02-2014 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by svtkeith (Post 1587271228)
Well said bud and I agree with you get the car YOU like not what someone else thinks is the best for you..I can't believe the attacks from some people on here just because someone is considers another car besides the Vette...Chill folks....:crazy2:

Keith, some of the responses are probably coinciding with the thread title. You can't issue a topic title like that then get defensive when people give you some kickback on a Corvette forum.:rofl: To be fair, awesome job by Dodge but hopefully people who value more than a bragging number won't get hung up on the 700hp+ figure. The Corvette Z06 and Viper will still be faster around the track and in a straight line. Likewise, Porsches with far less horsepower will find their way around tracks just as quickly......why is this a death knell for the Corvette?:rofl:

JerriVette 07-02-2014 06:43 PM

The corvette team could have easily upped the power but the increase in performance was neglible.

Let's see the times before we decide gm has been outdone.

SoonerSpeedFreak 07-02-2014 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by svtkeith (Post 1587271228)
Well said bud and I agree with you get the car YOU like not what someone else thinks is the best for you..I can't believe the attacks from some people on here just because someone is considers another car besides the Vette...Chill folks....:crazy2:

:iagree:

Mr. Gizmo 07-02-2014 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by Lavender (Post 1587266920)
Why are you even mentioning a Challenger in the same sentence as a Corvette?

Its not about the the car. its about the hp. GM's flagship Zo6 car is "out-horsepowered"

This takes all the thunder away from the Z06.

Those considering a C7Z06, might wait a few months for a higher horsepower C7Zr1.


Originally Posted by C7pimp (Post 1587270503)
If you pass up a C7 Z06 for this, you win retard of the century award.

.

I am sure you did not mean to be offensive by using the word "retard".

svtkeith 07-02-2014 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by 1985 Corvette (Post 1587272099)
Keith, some of the responses are probably coinciding with the thread title. You can't issue a topic title like that then get defensive when people give you some kickback on a Corvette forum.:rofl: To be fair, awesome job by Dodge but hopefully people who value more than a bragging number won't get hung up on the 700hp+ figure. The Corvette Z06 and Viper will still be faster around the track and in a straight line. Likewise, Porsches with far less horsepower will find their way around tracks just as quickly......why is this a death knell for the Corvette?:rofl:



I agree with you on which cars are faster and all but to be called RETARDED!! and attacked like that is childish no matter what forum you're on and brand you're talking about but I guess some people are just nasty on a keyboard makes them feel powerful or something..maybe their wives just finished beating them up or something....:lol:

Theta 07-02-2014 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo (Post 1587272471)
Its not about the the car. its about the hp. GM's flagship Zo6 car is "out-horsepowered"

This takes all the thunder away from the Z06.

Those considering a C7Z06, might wait a few months for a higher horsepower C7Zr1.

Eh... when you see mine passing through the valley in a month or two, you might just forget about them both. Under 4:1 weight ratio. :lol: :cheers:

Lavender 07-02-2014 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Gizmo (Post 1587272471)
Its not about the the car. its about the hp. GM's flagship Zo6 car is "out-horsepowered"

This takes all the thunder away from the Z06.

Those considering a C7Z06, might wait a few months for a higher horsepower C7Zr1.


4,500lbs tank taking all the thunder? Thanks for the laughs! :thumbs:

1985 Corvette 07-02-2014 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by svtkeith (Post 1587272553)
I agree with you on which cars are faster and all but to be called RETARDED!! and attacked like that is childish no matter what forum you're on and brand you're talking about but I guess some people are just nasty on a keyboard makes them feel powerful or something..maybe their wives just finished beating them up or something....:lol:

I'm sure you remember the angst when the Shelby got 650hp+?:rofl: A cool touch I like about the hellcat is the fake light in the grill that is the inlet for the supercharger. Cool stuff, the new Challenger is certainly going to surprise a few people (and Stingrays) at the stop light.:thumbs:

Edit: and honestly, I should reserve judgement. I thought the Z28 was disappointing just on trap speeds alone but it shut me up real quick when the track results came in. Excited to see how the Hellcat performs around a track as well.


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