Originally Posted by Big Dan 427
(Post 1586311327)
So as expected the market is being flooded which simply means the 14's are already dropping like the Titanic. Anyone who wants a new C7 should wait for the 15's to arrive unless you're getting 7-10k off the window.
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What about the other 898 dealerships?
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Originally Posted by LIStingray
(Post 1586311338)
I think that is high. Right now they have produced 17,000 Cars in 8 months, or about 2,125/mo. average; assuming they produce the 30,000 suggested, that means another 13,000 cars in 5 months, or an average of 2,600/month.
I think currently they are averaging 115 cars a day, which works out 2,875/month - nowhere near 3,250. As for unsold inventory, it is less than you think. Kerbeck has 27 coupes and 35 convertibles in stock, which is 2 weeks of allocations; MacMulkin has 32 coupes and 14 convertibles in stock, which is also about 2 weeks of allocations. Two weeks of inventory this time of year isn't a lot, and that is the reason prices have remained pretty firm. Your 17,000 number, does that include the 1,050 Premier editions that have a different VIN ending sequence? I don't think so. 18,000 divided by 6.5 months equals 2769 cars per month average. They are producing more today than what they have averaged for the past 6.5 months. If the supply starts to get to far out in front of the demand, than GM always has the option to cut out the overtime to decrease the dealer's stocks(but I doubt they will). As long as the dealer's are ordering what they are allocated, GM will keep building. Way too early for the dealers to get concerned about being stuck with a bunch of unsold cars. If they start backing up on the dealer's lots, GM will offer the dealers some incentives to keep them ordering. |
Originally Posted by blackmagicZ
(Post 1586311178)
Apparently nobody gets it. I know how the system works, I just don't agree with it.
If two people were being mugged, one looks to be well off and the other looks to be just the average guy, I'll help the well off person because I might be rewarded and screw the other guy because he probably can't afford to give a reward. Do you get my meaning? I understand rewarding the "big" dealerships with more allocations, but the small dealerships need to be treated better than they are. If you want to do your little dealer a favor, then buy the C7 at a big dealer -- meaning you'll get it right away -- and then get all your service done at the little dealer. I've heard this mantra about "supporting the local dealer" among a die-hard few, and it's really misguided. Your little dealer will not go bankrupt because you buy your C7 elsewhere. They will make plenty of money off of your service. In fact, over the life of the car they will make a lot more from your service than from the initial sale. Buy your Volt or Silverado or some other easy-to-come-by car from your local dealer, and get your C7 immediately from a large dealer. Your little dealer will be just fine. |
Speednet why do you think the Corvette has always been considered a dime a dozen product? It's the typical GM modus operandi, sacrifice quality for quantity and who cares about value. Yes that's what it means IMO!
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No more beating this horse into the ground.[/QUOTE]
Why not? I thought you enjoyed this sort of thing. |
Originally Posted by Speednet
(Post 1586311465)
Nobody is being mugged, that's not a good analogy. Maybe you're not into Capitalism, and it's certainly your right to feel that way, but that's not the way things work in the USA.
If you want to do your little dealer a favor, then buy the C7 at a big dealer -- meaning you'll get it right away -- and then get all your service done at the little dealer. I've heard this mantra about "supporting the local dealer" among a die-hard few, and it's really misguided. Your little dealer will not go bankrupt because you buy your C7 elsewhere. They will make plenty of money off of your service. In fact, over the life of the car they will make a lot more from your service than from the initial sale. Buy your Volt or Silverado or some other easy-to-come-by car from your local dealer, and get your C7 immediately from a large dealer. Your little dealer will be just fine. I would of gone to a bigger dealership to place my order. As a matter of fact I did at first. But I won't pay the markup, so I moved on to a dealer that dose not practice the art of price gouging. |
Originally Posted by blackmagicZ
(Post 1586311578)
I would of gone to a bigger dealership to place my order. As a matter of fact I did at first. But I won't pay the markup, so I moved on to a dealer that dose not practice the art of price gouging.
Just recently, a forum member purchased his Z51 with a $3,000 discount from a forum dealer that is not in the top 50. Another local dealer(to me) that only got two coupes and one convertible on the first round of allocations sold them for MSRP. |
Originally Posted by Big Dan 427
(Post 1586311327)
So as expected the market is being flooded which simply means the 14's are already dropping like the Titanic. Anyone who wants a new C7 should wait for the 15's to arrive unless you're getting 7-10k off the window.
Originally Posted by blackmagicZ
(Post 1586311524)
No more beating this horse into the ground.
Why not? I thought you enjoyed this sort of thing I REALLY hope this price increase is true--that would be hilarious :rofl: |
Originally Posted by Speednet
(Post 1586311465)
If you want to do your little dealer a favor, then buy the C7 at a big dealer -- meaning you'll get it right away -- and then get all your service done at the little dealer.
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Originally Posted by blackmagicZ
(Post 1586311578)
I would of gone to a bigger dealership to place my order. As a matter of fact I did at first. But I won't pay the markup, so I moved on to a dealer that dose not practice the art of price gouging.
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Originally Posted by Speednet
(Post 1586311883)
Why not just order from a dealer like Kerbeck, which never charges over MSRP, and then do a courtesy delivery at your local dealer?
"He want's to support his local guy". Translated - He doesn't want a C7. |
Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
(Post 1586311852)
you're generally spot-on with your replies; but not this time. Warranty work is not reimbursed at the shops normal rate; a much lower labor rate. And there's is not a markup (profit) on the parts replaced either. Warranty work is considered "break even";... or a "necessary evil" and is not a money maker.
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Originally Posted by ATX-C7
(Post 1586311945)
There is another 10 page thread, where Dave from Kerbeck even came on and offered him a GUARANTEED allocation to 3000 in one week, and he didn't take it.
"He want's to support his local guy". Translated - He doesn't want a C7. |
Originally Posted by ATX-C7
(Post 1586311945)
There is another 10 page thread, where Dave from Kerbeck even came on and offered him a GUARANTEED allocation to 3000 in one week, and he didn't take it.
"He want's to support his local guy". Translated - He doesn't want a C7. Dave is a great guy -- the best dealer I have done business with, regardless of brand. |
Originally Posted by blackmagicZ
(Post 1586311978)
Like he could guarantee that. And besides, he didn't guarantee that in the first place, and can't guarantee a delivery date.
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Originally Posted by blackmagicZ
(Post 1586310888)
Here we go again. Same old story, screw the little guy and kiss the butt of the big one. Meanwhile all those cars are sitting on lots unsold because they don't have the Z51 package, and the people that put up a deposit at a small dealer can f themselves.
The big dealers earned the right. Topic is :beatdeadhorse: |
This car is a hit and will sell more than they thought!
Thus the price raise! It may take sales from others and really sell! |
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