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Corvette0096 02-14-2014 08:58 AM

ECS Stage one fuel system picture.
 
Anyone have any of there install? I know ESC has them on there web site. Install tips?

MVP'S ZO6 02-14-2014 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586170604)
Anyone have any of there install? I know ESC has them on there web site. Install tips?


plug it in wire it in fire it up!! :cheers:

Corvette0096 02-14-2014 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586174518)
plug it in wire it in fire it up!! :cheers:

Very helpful.. Anyone else?

MVP'S ZO6 02-14-2014 05:31 PM

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hope this helps more. it took me a real long time to find. This time it was .003 seconds as opposed to my normal .002 seconds via google search. I'm slacking. :lol: maybe it would have been faster if I actually owned an ECS fuel system. :cheers:

http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...tructions.html

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4DRUSH 02-14-2014 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586170604)
Install tips?

Use 10 gauge wire

Corvette0096 02-14-2014 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586174788)
hope this helps more. it took me a real long time to find. This time it was .003 seconds as opposed to my normal .002 seconds via google search. I'm slacking. :lol: maybe it would have been faster if I actually owned an ECS fuel system. :cheers:

http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...tructions.html

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Read my sentence..in post.. Let me help you anyways. " I know ESC has them on there web site. Install tips?"

Corvette0096 02-14-2014 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by 4DRUSH (Post 1586175099)
Use 10 gauge wire

Thank you.

MVP'S ZO6 02-14-2014 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586175479)
Read my sentence..in post.. Let me help you anyways. " I know ESC has them on there web site. Install tips?"



use quality connection methods. butt connectors, wire nuts and electrical tape are not sufficient. That is a good way to have issues and or even start a fire. i'm sure the guys East Supercharging Coast would say the same.

knightz06 02-14-2014 09:02 PM

:rofl:

a/c man 02-14-2014 09:32 PM

Wire nuts black tape?? that's what A/C techs use... :lol: :lol:

solder and heat shrink work best but connectors are ok :yesnod:

Corvette0096 02-14-2014 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586176064)
use quality connection methods. butt connectors, wire nuts and electrical tape are not sufficient. That is a good way to have issues and or even start a fire. i'm sure the guys East Supercharging Coast would say the same.

Hey, do me a favor and troll someone else post.

MVP'S ZO6 02-14-2014 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586177042)
Hey, do me a favor and troll someone else post.

:crazy2: Hey I'm just trying to help you out.

you asked for tips and you have received them. I don't know what you know. When I see thread's like this I generally get the impression that the poster is probably inexperienced, in which case you should just take the car to a pro and let them install the fuel system. I say that because installing that fuel system is about as straight forward as changing a tire. on something this straight forward, I automatically assume that the person asking has no earthly idea what they're doing. When I give advice, I'm doing it with the assumption that you know nothing.

I'm sorry that i misread your first post and didn't see where you were saying you already had the instructions.

Good luck with your fuel system. Thanks for being so kind! :thumbs:

Corvette0096 02-14-2014 11:40 PM

Back on track here. Anyone have a few pictures they can post?

MVP'S ZO6 02-14-2014 11:48 PM

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Any Particular Pictures your looking for?

Attachment 47767526

Corvette0096 02-14-2014 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586177372)
Any Particular Pictures your looking for?

Attachment 47767526

You forgot this one.

http://www.speedinc.com/media/catalo...b73ba604_1.jpg

Notice the difference between the two? :) I want one that someone did so I know what fitting to order. Your picture has a return line. That is a stage 2 kit.

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586177413)

WTF mate!! :lol: I'm trying to help you.

i mean hell bro, its a pump some lines and a hobbs switch. its not hard. plug the sob in make sure it dont leak and that you have good connections and enjoy. Are you expecting to see some top secret pic?

if you cant figure it out with out pictures you shouldn't really be messing with it. just saying..

good luck hope you figure it out.
SMH.

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586177413)
You forgot this one.

http://www.speedinc.com/media/catalo...b73ba604_1.jpg

Notice the difference between the two? :) I want one that someone did so I know what fitting to order. Your picture has a return line. That is a stage 2 kit.

If you notice that is a gravity feed line off the ESC Bulkhead. You would think you want to pump as low as possible. Last thing I want to do is suck air into the set up going down the track.

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586177429)
WTF mate!! :lol: I'm trying to help you.

i mean hell bro, its a pump some lines and a hobbs switch. its not hard. plug the sob in make sure it dont leak and that you have good connections and enjoy. Are you expecting to see some top secret pic?

if you cant figure it out with out pictures you shouldn't really be messing with it. just saying..

good luck hope you figure it out.
SMH.

Ok, hero what fittings do I order?

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 12:16 AM

wow!! you realize that your the one who's asking for assistance in this case right?

why dont you post pictures of what you have and adjust the tude a little bit and I may think of posting a link to what you need. or dont and wait on someone else to help you out.

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586177474)
wow!! you realize that your the one who's asking for assistance in this case right?

why dont you post pictures of what you have and adjust the tude a little bit and I may think of posting a link to what you need. or dont and wait on someone else to help you out.

You don't have the answer so move on. :cheers:

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 12:29 AM

you have to be just messing with me. :lol: The only thing I know for certain is that you are the one who does not have the answer sir. I sure am glad that my car has a working fuel system.

Good luck maybe tomorrow you will wake up on the correct side of the bed. :thumbs:

:cheers:

no seriously give us detail man!! I really want to help or find someone who can. :cheers:

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 12:32 AM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586177516)
The only thing I know for certain is that you are the one who does not have the answer sir. I sure am glad that my car has a working fuel system.

Good luck maybe tomorrow you will wake up on the correct side of the bed. :thumbs:

:cheers:

You have any pictures of your fuel system.. Or did you pay a shop?:cheers:

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 12:35 AM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586177523)
You have any pictures of your fuel system.. Or did you pay a shop?:cheers:

my fuel system was installed before my car went to the shop. however my car has two intank pumps. its slightly different than yours.

can you post exactly what your looking for maybe im reading your thread wrong but your concerned with the level of the pump in relation to the fuel level?

They did move my regulator though. so that's about the only modification they did to my fuel system.

a/c man 02-15-2014 12:41 AM

heres some A&A fuel systems too look at http://www.aacorvette.com/supercharg...9oqgg3vefskvl7

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586177537)
my fuel system was installed before my car went to the shop. however my car has two intank pumps. its slightly different than yours.

can you post exactly what your looking for maybe im reading your thread wrong but your concerned with the level of the pump in relation to the fuel level?

They did move my regulator though. so that's about the only modification they did to my fuel system.

I don't have the Teflon lines or the elbows yet. So I was going to check out pictures of different installs. I want the pump to be low enough so I will not induce air into the fuel system. It's gravity feed. I am going to order my parts from Pegasus racing and wanted to get a idea on what to buy. I know I need one of these to tap into the factory lines Aeromotive 15120..

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586177564)
I don't have the Teflon lines or the elbows yet. So I was going to check out pictures of different installs. I want the pump to be low enough so I will not induce air into the fuel system. It's gravity feed. I am going to order my parts from Pegasus racing and wanted to get a idea on what to buy. I know I need one of these to tap into the factory lines Aeromotive 15120..

which pump do you have the bosch or aeromotive 1000A or what ever that big ass pump is? the pump is check valved right?
unless your trying to install the pump on the roof and run your car danm dear out of fuel, I dont think your going to run into cavitation issues.

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by a/c man (Post 1586177554)
heres some A&A fuel systems too look at http://www.aacorvette.com/supercharg...9oqgg3vefskvl7

Thank you sir. like pulling teeth around here. :thumbs:

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586177571)
which pump do you have the bosch or aeromotive 1000A or what ever that big ass pump is? the pump is check valved right?
unless your trying to install the pump on the roof and run your car danm dear out of fuel, I dont think your going to run into cavitation issues.

044 with a high flow check valve.

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by a/c man (Post 1586177554)
heres some A&A fuel systems too look at http://www.aacorvette.com/supercharg...9oqgg3vefskvl7

good job scott, I didnt think to link him to the A&A kit.

andy has some good pics. hahaha.

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586177592)
044 with a high flow check valve.

good so, if you mount the pump at tank level or slightly below, i.e. like andy's kit shows in the left fender well. you should not have any cavitation issues.

now on to fittings?

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586177599)
good so, if you mount the pump at tank level or slightly below, i.e. like andy's kit shows in the left fender well. you should not have any cavitation issues.

now on to fittings?

Yah help a brother out.

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 01:02 AM

You mean to say 1/4 panel? Fender is up front of the car.

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 01:03 AM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586177613)
Yah help a brother out.

so let me ask this? your system did not come with any fittings?

if so than what else are you trying to accomplish?

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 01:07 AM

[QUOTE=MVP'S ZO6;1586177621]so let me ask this? your system did not come with any fittings?

if so than what else are you trying to accomplish?


I had a pump already so I only bought the bulk head. :yesnod:

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 01:10 AM

[QUOTE=Corvette0096;1586177632]

Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586177621)
so let me ask this? your system did not come with any fittings?

if so than what else are you trying to accomplish?


I had a pump already so I only bought the bulk head. :yesnod:


ahhh i see so you need the bulk head fitting? what are they -8AN I think?

http://www.jdaent.com/high-flow-bulkhead-adapter.html

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 01:12 AM

This is the bulkhead mine takes from ECS.
http://home.comcast.net/~vadian//pwp...l%20Spacer.JPG

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586177645)
This is the bulkhead mine takes from ECS.
http://home.comcast.net/~vadian//pwp...l%20Spacer.JPG

ok so you need the fitting that comes off it? explain to me brotha!!

looks like a -8 too me.

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 01:19 AM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586177649)
ok so you need the fitting that comes off it? explain to me brotha!!

looks like a -8 too me.

Bulkhead to pump is -8.. I think a 45 out of the bulkhead will work. Teflon line is not very flexible so it has to be pretty close on the angles. and I know out of the pump its -6 line.

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 01:21 AM

what year is your ride?

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by mvp's zo6 (Post 1586177665)
what year is your ride?

2002

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586177660)
Bulkhead to pump is -8.. I think a 45 out of the bulkhead will work. Teflon line is not very flexible so it has to be pretty close on the angles. and I know out of the pump its -6 line.

yeah id come off with a 45 or maybe even a 30

have you seen this post.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1581818862-post23.html

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586177673)
yeah id come off with a 45 or maybe even a 30

That's why I wanted a picture so there was no guessing. I can't run down to a local parts house and get the fitting.

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 01:35 AM

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...fuelpump-1.jpg

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 01:37 AM

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...-fittings.html

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 01:40 AM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586177702)

That's was taken at my buddies Tom wongs shop.

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 01:54 AM

ok, ive heard of Tom Wong. some guy on here was complaining about him not too long ago.

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 02:00 AM

the guy in this thread gotjuice said he installed an ECS system not too long ago. on a C6 he even said theres a youtube video out there which im trying to find for you but id contact him.


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...-fittings.html

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 03:58 AM

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http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...age1_early.pdf


ok based on the instructions. it looks like your going to need (2) 120 Degree -8AN Fittings like this. http://www.jdaent.com/1120-08-1.html (black fittings cost a little more) as for the fittings, install one on each end of 24" of braided fuel line. one end is going to attach to the ECS fuel tank hat spacer/ring and the other side will attach to the inlet of the pump.

wiring..... im going to try and pull this from memory. I dont know if your using a 3 or 4 wire relay but ill give you a run down for a 4 wire.

1) Fused Power to 12v power on back of alternator or any fused constant power source
will go to terminal 30 on your relay. (you can use the lug on the fuse box under the hood but if you do make sure you run an inline fuse)

2) Fuel Pump power (+) to non fused red power terminal 87 on relay

3) one side of Hobbs to terminal 86 on your relay

4) Other side of Hobbs to Ground

5) terminal 85 on the relay is going to go to an ignition source. you can use the hot wire on the injector or any ignition source where there is only power with the key on.

6) Fuel Pump negative to ground

that should do it for the wiring of your fuel pump. be sure to use good soldered and shrink wrapped connections. I like to also wrap shrink wrapped connections in electrical tape as well just for the extra protection.

then obviously the hobbs switch will need a boost/vacuum signal. intake manifold ect.

I hope this gets you somewhere. :cheers:

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 08:01 AM

In the instructions they say 120's but look at that picture.. Those are not 120. :cheers:

robert miller 02-15-2014 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586177727)
ok, ive heard of Tom Wong. some guy on here was complaining about him not too long ago.

:lol::lol: I think I saw that same post in here. Tom Wong don't believe nothing he post up in here.:hide::hide:

robert miller 02-15-2014 09:06 AM

ttt
 
To the OP here really on this if you have not gotten your parts yet give SMOOVE a message in here. SMOOVE is what he goes by he can get you ALL your part plus help you 100% if you are not sure on part. :thumbs: I got all my fuel system made up by him.. Robert

StealthFRC 02-15-2014 11:45 AM

ill get pics of mine, i don't have the ecs kit but i use the ecs fuel block with a areomotive 750 pump. the pump is mounted to my side skirt.

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by StealthFRC (Post 1586179609)
ill get pics of mine, i don't have the ecs kit but i use the ecs fuel block with a areomotive 750 pump. the pump is mounted to my side skirt.

:cheers:

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 01:21 PM

I agree it definitely don't look like a 120 degree fitting.

StealthFRC 02-15-2014 02:10 PM

here is mine


http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps0a5a485a.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps81324bdb.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps116459eb.jpg

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 02:23 PM

Seems like you would get a burst of air in that set up with that high of an arc on the fuel line? Fuel run back in the tank under braking. I think we need a filter before the pump to keep debri out of the second pump.

StealthFRC 02-15-2014 02:25 PM

no issue's here, been on the dyno multiple times.

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 02:28 PM

Maybe the check valve keeps the line full

StealthFRC 02-15-2014 02:31 PM

seems all the other pics above don't have pre filters either. the car probably as a minimum of 30 dyno pulls. 17.5psi
all the filters/check valve are in my front wheel well. then the regulator is mounted here. the black line going to fire wall is hooked up to the stock feedline. its all boost referenced aswel.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps6003a4df.jpg

a/c man 02-15-2014 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586180642)
Seems like you would get a burst of air in that set up with that high of an arc on the fuel line? Fuel run back in the tank under braking. I think we need a filter before the pump to keep debri out of the second pump.

They all go up hill like that, its not gravity feed it has a high volume pump! gas has to travel up hill to get to the motor anyway, mine does have a filter before the pump!

a/c man 02-15-2014 02:40 PM

Here is mine with filter

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCN2488.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCN2512.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCN2513.jpg[/QUOTE]http://i46.tinypic.com/2qmm1zn.jpg

a/c man 02-15-2014 02:44 PM

This is 2 years ago car has the same fuel set up just cleaned it up some http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCN2485.jpg

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 07:08 PM

The ESC bulkhead that I have does not have a pump that feeds the second pump. Gravity feed is what I have.

a/c man 02-15-2014 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586182360)
The ESC bulkhead that I have does not have a pump that feeds the second pump. Gravity feed is what I have.

you will need a pump to make it work! all you have is a gas tank adapter...

MVP'S ZO6 02-15-2014 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586182360)
The ESC bulkhead that I have does not have a pump that feeds the second pump. Gravity feed is what I have.

You have an external inline pump right?

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586182643)
You have an external inline pump right?

Not inline. It feed off the hole on the bulkhead that is only gravity feed.

a/c man 02-15-2014 08:07 PM

post a picture or link of what you have.

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 08:12 PM

http://home.comcast.net/~vadian//pwp...acer%20(2).JPG

a/c man 02-15-2014 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586182789)

That uses a pump its not gravity feed needs a pump do you have a external pump

Corvette0096 02-15-2014 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by a/c man (Post 1586182888)
That uses a pump its not gravity feed needs a pump do you have a external pump

I have a headache.

StealthFRC 02-16-2014 12:30 AM

that adapter u have is what i have in my pic, all it is is so you dont have to drill the tank or use a bulkhead fitting. you need to then get a inline pump, relay, hobbs switch,regulator, filters, check valve and all the fittings for the rails. you will also need a return line so you will need either drill the tank or set it up like mine.

the red pump in my pic is my secondary pump. i still have the lpe intank pump for driving around town etc, then when it his 3-4psi it turns the secondary (red pump) along with the intank lpe pump.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps58c7900b.jpg

MVP'S ZO6 02-16-2014 12:06 PM

Thanks stealth!!

danieloneil01 02-16-2014 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586183018)
I have a headache.

Mine does too. I think you're making this harder than it is.

Corvette0096 02-16-2014 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6 (Post 1586186646)
Thanks stealth!!

That's a stage three kit, but I have it all under control. I found a local source that has all the good stuff so I don't have to guess. Mine will have a filter between the bulkhead and external pump. Last thing I want it to be in fuel boost and have the pump lock up cause of some debris.

http://www.ofsco.net/

StealthFRC 02-16-2014 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586188236)
That's a stage three kit, but I have it all under control. I found a local source that has all the good stuff so I don't have to guess. Mine will have a filter between the bulkhead and external pump. Last thing I want it to be in fuel boost and have the pump lock up cause of some debris.

http://www.ofsco.net/

there is no set way of doing anything. you can do whatever you please. everyone has different setups that suite what they wanted, now you have some ideas and can change the things you want to make you happy. now you have something to go by and guide you. why do you think there are 1 million different ways of having a catch can setup lol, no one agrees.

MVP'S ZO6 02-16-2014 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by stealthfrc (Post 1586190271)
there is no set way of doing anything. You can do whatever you please. Everyone has different setups that suite what they wanted, now you have some ideas and can change the things you want to make you happy. Now you have something to go by and guide you. Why do you think there are 1 million different ways of having a catch can setup lol, no one agrees.

exactly!!

Corvette0096 02-16-2014 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by StealthFRC (Post 1586190271)
there is no set way of doing anything. you can do whatever you please. everyone has different setups that suite what they wanted, now you have some ideas and can change the things you want to make you happy. now you have something to go by and guide you. why do you think there are 1 million different ways of having a catch can setup lol, no one agrees.

You have a picture of your catch can? Trying to get some ideas. :lol:

DOUG @ ECS 02-17-2014 10:08 AM

Guys, this is why just purchasing the complete kit is the way to go, everything set, wiring complete, install and go. Whether it's ours or another quality kit, your not saving enough IMO to make piecing it together worth it.

Just my .02

MVP'S ZO6 02-17-2014 10:17 AM

Can't argue that one and at under a grand it seems like a good deal for what you get. There's no real way around it. Good fuel systems cost some coin but are definitely a very important system in the grand scheme of things.

Corvette0096 03-31-2014 10:47 AM

Kits all in. Saved about $400 on it by buying the parts myself. :cheers: Took about 3 hours to do the job and now we have extra fuel pressure. :)


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps573df418.jpg

schpenxel 03-29-2015 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by Corvette0096 (Post 1586541924)
Kits all in. Saved about $400 on it by buying the parts myself. :cheers: Took about 3 hours to do the job and now we have extra fuel pressure. :)


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps573df418.jpg

Did you add a connection to the tank? Any other details on it?


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