Chevy Corvette Stingray goes high-tech with Performance Data Recorder
 

That is very impressive:rock:

Does anyone know if this would be available for the 2014 models as a hardware and software upgrade?

You can do the same thing today, albeit not integrated into the infotainment system. Look into something like the dash dyno (auterraweb dot com) for example coupled with an in car camera.

Anyway, in their video, the data gets recorded to an SD card. The SD slot is under the armrest, correct? The video shows it behind the glove compartment lid. Am I correct in assuming that the glove compartment thing is just some sort of stock footage? Or did they change the location of the SD slot? Or maybe this system is for say, the Camaro too?


Cheers.

Very cool. I wonder if it will be connected to Onstar so GM will know what you're doing to the car. :eek:

Nah. It goes straight to the NSA.

Just kidding. LOL.


Cheers.

Wonder if it'll be available on 1LTs or only on the "upcale" trim levels. Most track guys like base or stripped down models so let's hope GM doesn't mess this up.

Hmm... This is the option I wanted but was told it wouldn't be available. :(

Figures.

Thanks for the link. A great reason to wait for 2015. Very impressive for you guys that track.

Of course. They have to keep coming up with new options to keep us coming back and buying. Just like the 8 speed auto transmission.

GM to Offer 'Performance Recorder' on 2015 Corvettes
 

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...hatsNewsSecond
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-Y9...ature=youtu.be
Business
GM to Offer 'Performance Recorder' on 2015 Corvettes
Will Allow Enthusiasts to Record All Facets of Their Track Runs
By
Jeff Bennett
Jan. 5, 2014 12:07 a.m. ET

LAS VEGAS—Blurring the line between racing and real life, Chevrolet is rolling out some high-tech video technology that will make its hard-core Corvette fans think they were on ESPN.

General Motors Co. will begin offering a fully integrated "Performance Data Recorder" that records everything from speed and lap time to the select choice of curse words shouted out by the driver after failing to negotiate a turn. The feature will be offered on the 2015 Corvette Stingray models due out later this year. Pricing wasn't disclosed.
Although the PDR appeals to only a Corvette track enthusiast, the technology—and the willingness of GM to use it—underscores new boundaries auto makers are now crossing as their presence in technology continues to grow. Once a bit player in the International Consumer Electronics Show, which opens this week, auto makers are flexing their muscle with high-end applications, cool features and long-term operational know-how that is giving Silicon Valley pause.

The PDR is a packaged high-definition camera mounted on the windshield trim that records the track from the driver's point of view from inside the car while a microphone picks up the sound.

A dedicated global positioning receiver records everything from engine speed and transmission-gear selection to braking force. A secure digital card in the glove compartment box collects all the data. The amount of recording varies but a 32 gigabyte card stores more than 13 hours of driving time.

The video will also include an overlay of the track, speed and G-force. All of it can also be emailed or posted on Facebook.

Chief driving instructor Rick Malone, crossing 115 miles an hour at the Spring Mountain Motorsports Ranch about an hour outside of Las Vegas, pulled to a stop to show how just playing back the video on the Corvette's center screen is a first.

"If I was teaching a class and I wanted to show them a recent lap, I would have to get the chip, get out of the car, find a laptop and plug it in," Malone said. "But even then all you would see is a chart of lines. Now you can see the video in the car and I can show them where they did well or where they need to improve."

British motor sports company Cosworth helped develop the system. The company currently supplies the Corvette racing team's data acquisition and telemetry electronics system.

I saw this on another site, sweet

Very Cool !!!!

FYI
we were told that the system will ship on 2015 Corvettes and is not something that can be retrofitted for the 2014 Corvette Stingrays

:(

Very cool

:thumbs:

:iagree::cool:

I just saw this today. Maybe a software update will allow this on the 2014 C7's too.

huh ?

damm i might buy a 2015, gm is going to break me.

Between this and the 8 speed auto the 2014 is quickly becoming obsolete. There will be some nice deals later this year.

I doubt that. There are a lot of people like myself that won't buy it with an automatic, and couldn't care less about any kind of data recording since they would never take it to the track anyhow. I'd be perfectly happy with an "obsolete" 2014.

It was on Autoline.

Also, a function that most people will not use.

I myself would like that feature.

Yeah ....... Someone from Chevy said the same thing about my C6 ........... :rofl: His initials are T. J. :D
:iagree: Other than needing the auto because of my s/o, I wouldn't use the feature either. The car is for long distance trips and Sunday drives. :D

Exactly! As if an onboard video game is going to make a '14 obsolete. I need a video record of my road course driving about as much as I would need brake rotors the size of garbage can lids, 10 quarts of oil, or a cooler differential. Amazing to see how easy it is for the manufacturer to create the "must have" illusion.

That could be one of the coolest toys ever! After spending who knows how much over the years I tracked my cars on video recorders and lipstick camera lenses, editing software, etc., I would have loved this technology built into my car! And didn't I read you could post direct to the internet? Way to go GM!! That's a home run for a lot of Corvette owners. Not all or even the majority but a whole bunch for sure.

Very cool to have it built in. However I will not worry about it. I have several apps for my Android phone that integrate the phone's video (1080p), GPS (track map), accelerometers (G-Force), and a Bluetooth OBD connection (reads engine data).

Cool feature, won't delay my order 6mo to get it (can do all of that with an app, iPhone)

Interesting they didn't involve the rear camera - would be cool to have two angles.

They'd sell a few thousand upgrade kits to 14 owners if they figured a way to make it upgradable - perhaps a vendor will figure it out and write an app for it.

I wonder if you can use it as a dash cam and have it record all the time.

So when do the 2015's start to go into production ?

Told by whom?

In July, as in past model years.

I don't think it will make the "base" C7 obsolete, but it will sure make the Z51 optioned cars without it, "dated".

:rofl::rofl:

Second to last paragraph:

http://www.c7stingrayforum.com/index...rder-at-ces%2F

Yes it is nice to have a built in unit... this wont deter me from getting a 2014. I use Harrys Lap Timer on my iphone every time I go to the track and only advantage I see with this is the RPM overlay and gear selection.

I wouldn't worry too much about it not being available for 2014's, it will be just a matter of time before someone comes up with something to make it work for 2014's.

Try a bluetooth OBDII reader - I have one in my '97 M3 and it exports throttle, RPM and a few other parameters to Harry's. There is a gear overlay that works based on RPM vs. GPS speed, but you have to upload into the lap timer the gear ratios. No biggie if you have the data in front of you.

I think this will be a nice addition, but would still have the GoPro up and running too.

Gee, you just dont get it:D....This video game along with everything else you mentioned are must haves.....You never know when you will need these....And besides , you can brag more if you have have them....:ack::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::ro fl::rofl:

Brilliant strategy for GM.....Should be a high take rate with the posers....

Chevrolet Introduces the 2015 Corvette’s Performance Data Recorder at CES
 

Looks like a cool feature!


http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2014/...corder-at-ces/

2015 Reported to have dash cam option
 

http://www.clickondetroit.com/money/...z/-/index.html

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -
It looks like a video game, but is real life.

General Motors unveiled on Sunday a system that pulls together driving performance data with dashcam video -- giving drivers of its flashy Stingray sports car a way to record and share their experience behind the wheel.

The Performance Data Recorder will be available on the 2015 Corvette Stingray, the automaker said, calling it an "industry first."

"The fully integrated system enables users to record high-definition video, with telemetry overlays, of their driving experiences on and off the track," GM said.

After parking, drivers can relive their route -- whether it was around a racing speedway or downtown for groceries.

The video can be queued up on a dashboard-mounted monitor or downloaded to a driver's computer. The display shows the video plus a speedometer, throttle display and gear indicator. Drivers who use it when racing on an established race course can also see a map of the track and their lap time.

GM said it envisioned racers using the footage to "analyze their laps in incredible detail." The average driver could share the footage on social media.

The system pulls together a video camera mounted on the dashboard, a GPS receiver and the car's computer. A 32 gigabyte card inserted near the glove box can hold about 13 hours of driving data, GM said. It was designed by the company that works with the Corvette Racing team.

GM has not said how much the system will cost.

Chevrolet said the 2015 Corvette Stingray would be available in the third quarter of 2014.

Video of C7 around Sebring with Performance data recorder:

Sweet!!:thumbs:

Not something I would ever need / use...but it's pretty darn sweet!

Video quality not as good as a GoPro but, you didn't get all the overlay info either. Video is still pretty good quality though!

I just wonder how long until a posted car video from spirited street driving gets someone in trouble.

I was so mad I'd miss this option... but now that i'm thinking about it, I need it as much as the Z51. which I'm not buying :rofl:

How long will it take for some negative forum member to post"I told you, you should have waited". actually it is a nice feature which I would have zero need or want. Also there will be no end to changes in the C7 no matter when you buy...party on Garth..

Repost......again.

I told you, you should have waited! :D

lol, just kidding. Car already has more than enough tech. Only thing I would be interested in is if/when they give the base C7 a power bump (like C6 LS2 to LS3)

It's a cool option, but it's not a "must have".

Exactly. I do the same thing. This isn't worth waiting for. Plus HLT is a $20 app. I'll bet this option will be at least $800-1000.

Lap time
 

What, no comments on the lap time??

For what I believe to be a showroom stock car the lap time was very sweet.:thumbs::thumbs:

Is this a serious comment or just sarcasm?

I would not pay for this as an option even if it were to be an option on my '14 car. Also, I only drive manuals so the automatic means nothing to me.

Maybe you meant to say the new automatic will make the current automatic obsolete, but the entire car? :rofl:. Come on people!

If Hooter's would offer curb service with carhops, I'd be the first in line for one of these. :rock:

This thread makes 7 :toetap:

cool!

F I N A L L Y.
thanks talon..

Except for the ugly departure of Corvette tradition rear end The Corvette team is humiliation Porsche.

The new GT3; no comp. Seats, not manual, no data / video system, harder and harder to get repairs warranties when Chevy is stepping it up exponentially with the Z28 and corvette honoring warranties when tracking cars. I read a GM quote somewhere; we warranty it unless you hit a wall or money shift it.. Freakin awesome.

At probably 200 track days at Sebring in GT3's I need to pound the living day lights out of it at Sebring. 2:23 is nothing to sneeze at. That can be a sub 2:20 on track tires. My best lap on R compound tires is a 2:174 at Sebring...

At double the price, Porsche offers none of that..

I'm going to have to order one just to reward GM for honoring is DE track junkies.
The initial quality issues should be taken care of for the 2015 models.

Dealers; when you are ready, 3LT NRB black interior please...

The NY Times said it would record 13 hours of drive time so it would seem like it could be used as a simple dash cam if you wanted. It was developed with Cosworth, the British company that supplies the Corvette's racing team's electronics.

Maybe GM with toss it in with the LT3 for 2015?

Maybe you'll catch a meteorite! Or that lady on a cell phone running a red light in front of you.

Could be used as dash camera normal driving which is awesome

Repost......again.

Hehe, looks just like Forza telemetry. Nice!

All cars in the future might have this system for insurance purposes ... just like everyone in Russia videos their driving so they can show who crashed into them. :ack:

So I take it there is also a microphone in the car someplace that picks up and records the audio since you can hear the car's exhaust in the YouTube video.

Sounds great, but we sure are giving away our privacy and freedom. Already OnStar has the ability to shut your car off if the police ask them to. Now GM is giving them the ability to video tape you too. No thanks. Bad enough that they can already track my every movement. Fortunately I have nothing to hide, but what happens when one day I'm doing 55 in a 45 zone and a car turns left directly in front of me. The government gets a warrant for the video in my car to prove that I was speeding and now it's my fault the guy turned left in front of me.

Again, I have nothing to hide, am just tired of how much of our privacy and freedom we are losing to our government. And while GM has paid off their debt to the US taxpayers, GM is providing plenty of assistance to them still. I love my C7, but also love my privacy!

I'll pass on this one. There are plenty of aftermarket options to accomplish the same thing.

Think you're being overly paranoid for this particular piece of tech. There's no reason to believe that the video would be uploaded to OnStar's servers. For them to do that for every C7 on the road would represent an immense amount of bandwidth and recurring costs just to have video of people driving around.

It says clearly the video data is recorded to a card in the glovebox. If you do something that's your fault just take it out right after the accident and smash it to pieces.

i just want to say for the record that thebeastifier does not speak for other members of the forum when he/she advises drivers to commit a crime by destroying evidence. in particular, that individual(s) does not represent the view of this poster, who believes in totally supporting all laws covering automobile drivers, regardless of the state or country, and especially those pertaining to smashing of video recorders.

I'm with you on this one. I dont need a dash camera recording my every move.

Well, the option was supposed to be available to the 2014s. I think it wasn't ready in time (like a constraint) but they decided - as you said - to make it an incentive to buy a 2015.

I'm going to wait to see if someone retrofits it to a 2014.

Read the article. It did not say it was model specific. :willy:

This is AWESOME news, and exactly the kind of thing I was hoping Chevy would offer at some point.

I just hope it's not too expensive... this car is getting to be a little more than I was hoping to spend already, heh.

I wonder if there will be a way to record in the cabin also, though... Would be cool to review how I was doing with the steering wheel and the shifter.


The article also did not say that the 2015 Corvette will not come with an upgraded 480-hp engine that gets 70 mpg and can transform into a plane for long trips... With that said, I'm pretty sure it's going to be offered for both the base and the higher trims.



EDIT: Watching that video, the refresh rate on some of the telemetry data is a bit disappointing. :/ Was hoping it would update more smoothly than that.

so where do you think that data is really going ?

Flo at Progressive told me she's going to offer a discount for it...

720p video complete with sound and telemetry information? It's going to one place, and one place only: the SD card you provide.

Any thoughts otherwise are ridiculous and tin-foil'ish.

again? already been posted

Personally, I love the idea of having this capability built-in. Back in 08 when a lady blew threw a red light and we crashed at the intersection totaling my vette, with no witnesses, she could have said I went through the red light and my insurance would have had to pay for my car and hit me up for an increase because it would have been my word against hers. To her credit, she admitted to blowing the red light and was determined to be 100% responsible for the accident. This will be a must have for me for just that reason.

So... you're going to have the camera recording every minute of your driving? You'll have to set it to record each time; you do realize that, right?

This is meant to be used on the track!

I like it; being built-in (versus an external camera module) is great.

My fear though is that the option will cost mega-bucks. :(

Prophetic Words
 

Heh ...........Just may be Tadge was right. Though not in a way he meant it to be. If GM keeps this up, the dealers will option the cars out of reach for many. :willy:

:iagree: I'm guessing $1K+

:iagree:

Personally, I love the idea of having this capability built-in. Back in 08 when a lady blew threw a red light and we crashed at the intersection totaling my vette, with no witnesses, she could have said I went through the red light and my insurance would have had to pay for my car and hit me up for an increase because it would have been my word against hers. To her credit, she admitted to blowing the red light and was determined to be 100% responsible for the accident. This will be a must have for me for just that reason.

Very cool, this is a great tool for the weekend racers.

I have a deal with my dealer. He orders a new vet for me every change. I figure at least one a year. That way it only cost about $1,800 a month to own the latest, after paying for the first one..

Oh I'm sure we will hear them.

They would be sublimely irrational. It would be like waiting for the next computer to come out. They always change and always will.:thumbs:

Very, very cool!!

yea...sure it is :lol: ....enjoy when iy comes out .:cheers:

new C7 data recorder available in 2015!
 

Hi folks!

As Chevy has announced, the 2015 Stingrays will have a new data recorder available! They had a couple of cars here with it and did some media drives. here is a link to a WSJ short video review of the system.
too cool!

http://live.wsj.com/video/road-test-...7-AA49B024FB88

I sure hope someone can find a way to retro fit it. Like the hud on the early C5's

Merged multiple threads into one.

Now that I think about it, it's kind of interesting that they would announce this great new feature for 2015 so far before the 2015 models go on sale...


He's right, it's a great feature both for on-track use AND for insurance purposes, and/or just-recorded-something-cool-on-the-road purposes.

It would be nice if you could configure it to automatically start recording every time you got in the car, though. I bet they will offer that feature at some point. But if not, it's not too difficult to just go through a couple touch screen button clicks when you start driving.

Corvette Stingray Performance Data Recorder
 

For Release: Sunday, Jan. 5, 2014, 12:01 a.m. EST
Fast Feedback: Corvette Performance Data Recorder
• Industry-first system features integrated video, audio and motorsport-inspired telemetry recording capability
• HD-quality videos can be reviewed in-car when parked, or downloaded to personal computer for sharing via social media
• Data can be uploaded to Cosworth Toolbox telemetry software, similar to that used by Corvette Racing, to improve driver’s techniques and lap times

LAS VEGAS – Chevrolet announced at the Consumer Electronics Show today an industry-first Performance Data Recorder for the 2015 Corvette Stingray. The fully integrated system enables users to record high-definition video, with telemetry overlays, of their driving experiences on and off the track.

“The Performance Data Recorder combines the ability to record and share drive videos with the power of a professional-level motorsports telemetry system,” said Tadge Juechter, Corvette chief engineer. “Drivers can easily record and share their experiences driving down the Tail of the Dragon or lapping Road Atlanta. In addition, with the included telemetry software, users can analyze their laps in incredible detail and find opportunities to improve their driving and lap times.”

The Performance Data Recorder, or PDR, system was developed with Cosworth, the British motorsports-engineering company that supplies the Corvette Racing team’s data acquisition and telemetry electronics system. It will be available with the start of regular 2015 Corvette production, later in the third quarter of 2014. Pricing will be announced closer to launch.

The PDR system includes three major components, all seamlessly integrated into the Corvette Stingray’s interior. First is a 720p, high-definition camera, mounted within the windshield header trim, which records the driver’s point-of-view through the windshield. Audio is recorded via a dedicated microphone in the cabin.

Second is a self-contained telemetry recorder. The system uses a dedicated GPS receiver that operates at 5 hertz, or cycles per second. That is five times faster than the in-dash navigation system and allows more precise positioning and corner traces. The recorder is also hard-wired into the Stingray’s Controller Area Network, or CAN, to access vehicle information, ranging from engine speed and transmission-gear selection to braking force and steering-wheel angle.

Finally, the system features a dedicated SD-card slot in the glove box for recording and transferring video and vehicle data. Recording time depends on the capacity of the memory card, but an 8-gigabyte card can record approximately 200 minutes, while a 32-GB card stores up to about 800 minutes – more than 13 hours of driving time.

The PDR system can record video with three data overlay options, each rendered in real time:
• Track Mode – shows the maximum level of data on the screen, including speed, rpm, g-force, a location-based map, lap time and more.
• Sport Mode – shows fewer details on the overlay but includes key data including speed and g-force
• Touring Mode – simply records and displays video and audio of the drive with no data overlay
• Performance Mode – records performance metrics, such as 0 to 60 mph acceleration, 1/4-mile speed and elapsed time, and 0-100-0 mph runs.

The video can be viewed on the Corvette Stingray’s eight-inch color touchscreen when the car is parked, or downloaded to a computer for further editing, and sharing video via social media sites.

For users who want a more in-depth understanding of their performance, the PDR vehicle data can be opened in the included “Cosworth Toolbox” software, which combines Cosworth’s professional-level motorsport data analysis with an easy-to-use graphic interface.

The Cosworth Toolbox application overlays recorded laps on a Bing-enabled satellite map of the track, and compares selected laps in detail for any requested point on the drive. Comparisons include corner traces, vehicle speed, and cornering force to help drivers improve their driving consistency and ultimately their lap times.

“The ability to review laps between track sessions can identify immediate adjustments for quicker laps in the next session,” said Juechter. “It’s like having a 32-GB crew chief trackside providing you with real-time feedback to improve your driving skills.”

About Chevrolet
Founded in 1911 in Detroit, Chevrolet is now one of the world's largest car brands, doing business in more than 140 countries and selling more than 4.5 million cars and trucks a year. Chevrolet provides customers with fuel-efficient vehicles that feature spirited performance, expressive design, and high quality. More information on Chevrolet models can be found at www.chevrolet.com.

About Cosworth
Cosworth leverages its brand and motorsports-inspired engineering and manufacturing capabilities to supply electronics and powertrain technologies to premium high-performance vehicle manufacturers. Cosworth was founded in 1958. With headquarters in Northampton, UK, the company employs staff across Europe and the USA. Cosworth can be found at www.cosworth.com.

Looking at the vid starting up the PDR, it doesn't look like a video blackbox camera like the Blackvue. More of a track enthusiast option like Harrys laptimer.

If it has always on monitoring like the Blackvue then I think this is a great feature. If not, then only track enthusiasts like myself would be serious about this, which is unfortunate. ie it is pointless for insurance purposes because it isn't auto on surveillance, and most motorists wont turn it on every time they go for a drive.

Referencing 30sec mark in this video

This on the other hand would serve what people have been posting on the last page.

I think this is a WIN to have the PDR

As a side note, sucking up to the wifey to allow me to attend your driving school!

You're just being difficult, aren't you? :lol:

Was reading about that on the Car and Driver website. Kinda cool.

Add a whole new dimension to bench racing, as well as getting the video of the "crash". Which would be handy if its not your fault.

Wonder if a video of a top speed run in the west texas desert could be used as evidence against you???

Corvette forum police***** Calm down, hypothetical situation. I would never drive over the speed limit...... so spare me all your, you could kill someone crap.

Even if this feature is not yet present in the car, I suspect it would be *VERY* easy to add via a simple software update. One that they can probably implement before this tech is even released.

It's gotta be like a two-day job for a software engineer to code, then a few more days for the miscellaneous (requirements, testing, etc).