Originally Posted by Envied_Z
(Post 1585760634)
Can I quote you on this?
Let me guess, you spent some money at a shop to go fast, they told you to do something, you did it, and now you think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread? I work with 4500 hp blown alchohol motors for a living...I think I can handle a little street motor but thanks for your input I didn't know changing tires on a race car qualifies you to build a car.. but yes.. quote me on it.. and do some searching.. see if i have ever asking any shop to do work on my car?? |
Originally Posted by BLOWNBLUEZ06
(Post 1585762449)
Don't go acting like you could afford his setup at 75% off Josh. You know you don't wanna sell house for it. It'll be too hard to get those rusted wheels back on it anyways. :D
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Originally Posted by joshtownsend
(Post 1585765322)
I never took them off.. i just skirted around them and the tongue
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
(Post 1585761995)
Not trying to be a smarta$$, just wondering. |
Even with fuel it isnt uncommon to inject against a closed valve under heavy load.
And batch fire systems do that anyway, and I'm sure a carb setup would to a degree too. Fully sequential timed injection is more cirtical with regards to emissions than making power. I'd say most methanol would be evaporating as soon as it leaves the nozzle anyway though. |
Originally Posted by stevieturbo
(Post 1585767587)
Even with fuel it isnt uncommon to inject against a closed valve under heavy load.
I'd say most methanol would be evaporating as soon as it leaves the nozzle anyway though. |
Originally Posted by joshtownsend
(Post 1585765316)
haha are you kidding me hoss?? Do you know who your talking too?? I didn't know changing tires on a race car qualifies you to build a car.. but yes.. quote me on it.. and do some searching.. see if i have ever asking any shop to do work on my car?? Then please tell me how a 427 with low compression, big heads, big cam, with an F2 is gonna struggle to make power But yeah that picture is a little like I'm gonna do. I'm gonna try to make mine a little closer to the head and look a little cleaner though but that does look sweet! |
Originally Posted by PhysicsDude55
(Post 1585767013)
Wouldn't meth "pool" in the intake runners/intake valve with a setup like this? Wouldn't you want a fuel injector to only inject meth during the intake stroke of each cylinder?
Not trying to be a smarta$$, just wondering. No because at the time it's flowing, the airflow threw the engine is so high that it couldn't if it wanted too. The normal injectors are firing nearly constant at that time as well. Good question though. :cheers: Forgot to mention, this car picked up 49 rwhp from switching to this set up from a dual nozzle, no other changes. If anyone is interested in one, we make the hoses here, and have the rest of the parts on hand, so I can send out the the parts and you can give me hose lengths for a custom install. |
Originally Posted by Envied_Z
(Post 1585767650)
No I don't know who I'm talking to. And I can tell you don't either.
Then please tell me how a 427 with low compression, big heads, big cam, with an F2 is gonna struggle to make power But yeah that picture is a little like I'm gonna do. I'm gonna try to make mine a little closer to the head and look a little cleaner though but that does look sweet! The compression is a little low for a SC street motor, but I highly doubt it will struggle to make power. If you bumped up compression a bit your low end will feel a lot better for normal street driving and you'll make more power. Sounds like a nice build either way though. :cheers: |
Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
(Post 1585768073)
The compression is a little low for a SC street motor, but I highly doubt it will struggle to make power. If you bumped up compression a bit your low end will feel a lot better for normal street driving and you'll make more power. Sounds like a nice build either way though. :cheers:
" well, i was coming.. if i had a little bit more time, i would have had you" haha |
Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
(Post 1585768051)
No because at the time it's flowing, the airflow threw the engine is so high that it couldn't if it wanted too. The normal injectors are firing nearly constant at that time as well.
Good question though. :cheers: Forgot to mention, this car picked up 49 rwhp from switching to this set up from a dual nozzle, no other changes. If anyone is interested in one, we make the hoses here, and have the rest of the parts on hand, so I can send out the the parts and you can give me hose lengths for a custom install. Did you end up injecting the same amount of meth overall, or more ? Did you retain any nozzles pre TB ? |
Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
(Post 1585764602)
The reason we knew we needed this mod was from running a Haltech ECU with 8 EGT's. We noticed that this car with two 15lb nozzles (1050rwhp) had a temp difference of over 300* from the front cylinders to the back.
Shouldn't that be S.O.P. anyway? Or maybe it has been so for a quite a long time for over 1000 rwhp cars? |
Originally Posted by stevieturbo
(Post 1585768750)
Anything in particular you'd put the power increase down to ?
Did you end up injecting the same amount of meth overall, or more ? Did you retain any nozzles pre TB ? More even cylinder distribution mainly. I have two -3 nozzles where the original twin nozzles were, and -3's in each cylinder, adding up to the exact same size it was before. Fueling should have been identical basically but it ended running much richer because we finalized the cog driven/flip drive, so now it actually holds voltage at WOT. I have adjusted the tune for low voltage issues, but the difference in fueling etc from having over 13v at WOT is huge. Lots of cool new ECS products coming out this spring, I have just been very inundated with the C7 charger kit so I have not had time to post them up, or make them if the orders came in. :lol: |
Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
(Post 1585769593)
More even cylinder distribution mainly. I have two -3 nozzles where the original twin nozzles were, and -3's in each cylinder, adding up to the exact same size it was before. Fueling should have been identical basically but it ended running much richer because we finalized the cog driven/flip drive, so now it actually holds voltage at WOT. I have adjusted the tune for low voltage issues, but the difference in fueling etc from having over 13v at WOT is huge.
Lots of cool new ECS products coming out this spring, I have just been very inundated with the C7 charger kit so I have not had time to post them up, or make them if the orders came in. :lol: |
Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6
(Post 1585769620)
Excuses excuses... :hide:
I've been driving around in a supercharged C7, how's your car? :hide::D:leaving: |
Sick burn!!! :lol: ITS ALIVE!!!
Way to rub it in!!! :lol: have y'all posted progress of your C7 kit? |
Originally Posted by MVP'S ZO6
(Post 1585769816)
Sick burn!!! :lol: ITS ALIVE!!!
Way to rub it in!!! :lol: have y'all posted progress of your C7 kit? Check out C7 tech. Headers going in as I type this. :thumbs: |
Originally Posted by p1bz
(Post 1585757519)
Stroker motors aren't worth the hassle in a light, effiecient corvette. A 750whp setup with 1000-1200 more useable rpm will run and hide from a 1000whp stoker that is rpm limited.
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Originally Posted by Y2KRoadster
(Post 1585770004)
Not sure I agree with this statement. If you are talking about from a dig, on the street, then I can see your point. But from a highway roll or on a prepped surface, I don't see a stock cube 750whp setup running away from a 1Kwhp stroker setup.
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Originally Posted by joshtownsend
(Post 1585771551)
come on down to TXk14 and watch for yourself... it happens everyday!!! haha
Maybe people completely screw up the setup/tune/etc...or maybe there are some piss poor drivers at TX2K that can't handle a 1K car. However, properly driven and setup...a 408ci car with 1K whp will rape a 347 car with 750whp. |
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