I can see 405 - 505 - 705 . Maybe if it was NA, then 605, but since the not, 605 would be disappointing to say the least.

As far as the ZR1 goes, I'd be shocked if an older gen would reign king with a new gen alive. In fact, they likely went FI because they couldn't get over 638hp NA out of the LT1 without sacrificing something. They likely didn't want a repeat of the LS7.

Yes, because no way GM shot its entire wad on a new generation on the first two model years when Vette gens average like 9 years. No more major revisions for the next 5-7 years? Just a grand sport? http://www.forumup.it/images/smiles/...spari_nono.gif

Plus we know for fact GM uses twin turbos already.

Absofrigginlutely. No way the C7 Z06 doesn't smoke the C6 ZR's. I have a centri on an LS3 with a conservative tune that is 50HP above a ZR, and the LT-1 starts with 30 more HP than a LS3. You can bet the Z06's will be forged if they are S/C'd (like LS9's), so they could easily go to 8 or 9 lbs of boost. :eek:

The C7 Z06 will be (AFAIK) the first US street-legal production car 1/4-ing in the 10's. Nobody would believe you in 1990 if you told them an American car would do this someday.

It's gonna be a beast.

And yes, it will be moddable. Every FI car ever made has been moddable. :yesnod:

From the ZR1 fast list; seems there has already been a production car in the 10's............
The C6 ZR1 1/4 Mile and Standing Mile (and 1/2 Mile) Fast List
Last Updated: November 25, 2013

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Rank~~ E.T.~~ Trap~ 60'~ Driver~~~~~ M.Yr. Details Thread Video
1~~~~ 10.664 132.92 1.68 Kyle Lemish ~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
2~~~~ 10.740 133.21 1.74 Kyle Lemish ~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
3~~~~ 10.794 132.21 1.80 jamie furman ~ 2009 details~~ thread
4~~~~ 10.851 129.89 1.70 racerns ~~~~~ 2009 details~~ thread video
5~~~~ 10.950 131.61 1.83 VY ZR1 ~~~~~ 2009 details

This is what I was thinking too. About 620 BHP sounds right. The blower will be capable of more, but for reliability and fuel savings, it will be good for about 620. Tuned, probably closer to 700.

it took GM until the '02 C5 z06 to beat the LT5 C4 ZR1 (10 years?).. there's absolutely no way GM would do that to their high end C6 ZR1 customer base so soon.

Riiiiiight. GM is going to with hold performance in order to "respect" the owners of a discontinued platform. Sure thing, buddy. :rolleyes:

so does this motor hold the possibility to be bi s/c normally its a smaller turbo spooling the larger but if you were to put a procharger on the smaller would just make for much less boost lag/faster power?

im more of a turbo guy feel free to correct me if im wrong about the above

If you raise the inlet pressure for the stock SC, it will raise that pressure, about the same as it does with atmospheric pressure...so yes, you could compound charge that engine.

I don't know if they have much choice but to at least nearly match, if not surpass the C6 ZR1 in terms of motor. The Camaro ZL1 is 580 HP. Other pony/sports cars are in the same ball park plus/minus. Heck, that kind of power has found itself in Cadillac's! With the Corvette being Chevrolet's halo car, how could they not offer C6 ZR1 "ish" power? As for the suspension/brakes etc, well, today's C7 Z51 sure would lead one to believe the Z06 will kick fanny in that area as well.

The C7 Stingray spanks the comparable C6, so why is it the c7 performance variant will not do the same?

and with a price tag that will be in the ball park of the zr1 it makes sence to have more power to keep ppl buying other wise why upgrade

the '01 z06 would handle a lt5 zr1 no problem and ls1c5s would very close. why is there still talk about a car from 20 year ago?

i think they are more concerned with the germans and japanese companys. old zr1 owners should want the new car to be the best it can be.

Not random CF thread dudes, man. :crazy2: Official GM times.

GM is in the business of selling cars. People with ZR1s are likely going to sell them for Z06s that make the same (or more) power.

/story

There's a video floating on youtube of a ZR-1 vs a LS1 C5. C5 loses ground gradually in every gear change until the last gear, in which the ZR-1 begins to go for a very long walk on its own. I know the track capabilities of the C5 made the comparison even in LS1 form a different story, but on the street, no LS1 Vettes were touching a ZR-1. C5 Z06 was a different story, only thing the ZR-1 had over it was a higher top speed that's about it but you could probably count the number of places in the USA on one hand that had enough long straight road to one up a C5 Z06 in top speed.

I guess we still discuss cars from 20 years ago the same way the F car nuts still romanticize their beloved F40s to Scuderias and 458s.:D

No, they won't. People (like me) will sell our C6 ZR1's for the C7 ZR1. Maybe some of us will jump off the C6 ZR bandwagon to the C7 Z06 as it's going to be an outstanding car, but I'll keep driving my last gen hooptie and wait for the BIG dog.

while i think it's great you guys still discuss a great car in its time, but this is a c7 section. There are a lot of LT5 guys in a number of threads in the c7 sections lately, preaching and comparing something or other to the c4ZR1, and I just don't see the point. its a free country so ill be quiet now. :hide:

what if this is all we get?

1985 Corvette adds a lot to these forums whichever section he is in. He can post if he wants, have a problem with it...contact the mods.

i already said that. cry about it.

What if a meteor destroys my car as I drive home today? :D :D :D

Trust me, GM is putting a lot of money into developing a twin turbo small block engine and it will go in the C7 ZR1 and I plan to get one.

For some reason, many of you think the C6 ZR1 wasn't a success because they only sold 4-5k units (I believe). For a six figure sports car, that is a great ROI considering how little was changed overall as compared to the C6 Z06, i.e. relatively small development budget.

I do think GM plans to put the twin turbo in their top tier Cadillac vehicle. I think the Gen 3 CTS-V will get the LT4 supercharged V8, but I could see them putting a slightly detuned 650hp twin turbo in their upcoming flagship sedan and maybe a super Coupe based on their Elmiraj concept. BMW, Audi, and Mercedes sell a lot of high horsepower super luxury sedans and Cadillac wants in on that action, especially in their quest to reclaim their "Standard of the World" title.

660hp c7 z07!!

Now the price..... :( I believe there will be a uniform sigh when that info is released.