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CRABBYJ 11-28-2013 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by Snorman (Post 1585541983)
IMO...$2800 for the Z51 package is a no-brainer.
S.

That is so true. But probably should not be ordered without the MSRC for an additional $1795 to total $4595. I chose to go with the non-Z51 and spend the money on the 3LT which includes Nav that I wanted. So I only needed to spend $3410 more over the 1LT (Z51) to get the 3LT (Non-Z51). I had an '05 C6 Z51 and never used its full capability. I also like the sleeker look without the rear spoiler too.

With so many options everyone's configuration choice is perfect for them.:flag:

rickriada 11-28-2013 08:03 AM

I have a TR C7 with the Z51 option as there were some performance related items that were nice to have but I may never need/use them but when the other options become available to a buyer when this option is added to the build order, I'm "all in" since I definitely wanted the black wheels and the MSRC components. Of course, the wheels were extra and the MSRC was too but you can't get them without ordering the Z51 option. Also, I'd rather have the full width spoiler which is part of the Z51 option. I just wish I had chosen the carbon flash option for the mirrors and rear spoiler and the carbon flash hood stinger stripe.

Larry/car 11-28-2013 08:35 AM

Another reason I didn't go with the Z51 package; I didn't want the dry sump oil system. As many have found, this system has some negative aspects when only street driven (longer warm up, different oil checking procedures, extra 5 quarts). What I really wanted but couldn't get is, magnetic ride control. I had it on my C4 (FX3), C6 (F55), I was one of the first, to embrace it's capability. With the stiffer frame on the C7 maybe don't need it? Well I will have my C7 for the Caravan to the Museum this summer, If the suspension doesn't totally meet my needs I'll trade for a 2016.

MikeyTX 11-28-2013 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by IMMD (Post 1585540965)
How is it faster?

:yesnod: Beat me to it. Both cars use the same engine, trans, etc.

MikeyTX 11-28-2013 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by sajonf (Post 1585540997)
Stickier rubber, electronic limited slip diff, magnetic ride control, better aero, better cooling, larger brakes. Need I say more?

And the average driver on this forum or anywhere else for that matter wouldn't know the difference. :willy:

MikeyTX 11-28-2013 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by markk1 (Post 1585541066)
I think you may have answered your own question. I personally don't believe I will NEED what the Z51 adds to the car beyond the spoiler and in my opinion, better-looking wheels. However, I am at a point where I don't want to wonder "what if?" when I do decide to push the car to its limits. My "practical sacrifice" was choosing automatic over manual transmission. Of course, I am not necessarily looking for cost/benefit. I have waited all my life for a Corvette; I simply ordered what I want.



Winner ... :thumbs: Dynamite ! Best use of logic yet.

LIStingray 11-28-2013 09:08 AM

The Z51 at $2,800 is a great deal for what the package contains, but the current real cost because of the constraints is closer to $5,500 (without MRC) after you figure in the big discounts the Base cars are getting ($2,000 is published, $2,500 is common and more than 1 forum dealer has quoted people $3,000+ off MSRP).
I am not sure for the average guy, at $5,000+ the Z51 is worth it?
I am still personally wrestling with this very same dilemma, as I will never track my Corvette. Also, while I think the Z51 in a Coupe will be worth an additional $2,500-3,000 in resale 4-5 years down the road, I doubt it will command a $5,000+ premium.

rbartick 11-28-2013 09:18 AM

I'd get the Z51 with MAG and NPP. It is not that much of a premium over the long haul.

pietro c7 11-28-2013 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by ZL-1 (Post 1585542378)
The C7 has been out a while now. Most of us have seen some, and lots of pictures. Looking at them more and more I get a different feel for the two models. The base cars with 18/19 wheels and no spoiler look like a long low GT car, like an Aston Martin. The Z51 cars with 19/20 wheels and the spoiler appear a bit smaller but more aggressive, ready to pounce. I like both looks, each in its own way. Does anybody else see this or have I just been staring at Stingrays too long? :crazy2:

agree...http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps84b2fd3b.jpghttp://i808.photobucket.com/albums/z...psa79e1628.jpg

craig04c5 11-28-2013 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Michael A (Post 1585541304)
He said he is not tracking the car, so it doesn't really matter.

Michael

He asked the question.... How is a Z51 faster than non. I answered. So it must matter to him.

AORoads 11-28-2013 10:30 AM

So, let's see. Your profile sez you have a modified Z06 incl. suspension and engine work. But you're never going to race this new C7, which means to me you may choose to have lots of work done on the base C7 car. Just a guess.

It sounds like you don't want to pay for the Z51 option or the MRC option, so why get them? You've probably read everything about them and you're still not convinced you want them for whatever reason.

As to the Z51 being "faster," to me, faster means top speed. Quicker to me means to time or distance. The Z51 may be quicker, but may not (probably doesn't) be faster in overall top speed, but that could be debatable, too.

If you really like to mod your car, start w. a base, save the X thousands to use, and do it your way. It's a guess but I'd say the most forgiving suspension will be the base car, not the Z51 with MRC.

And btw, why not order the car vs. looking at the two within 1K miles of you? After 50 posts, three being yours, seems like it's decision time.:cheers: :D

sajonf 11-28-2013 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by MikeyTX (Post 1585543364)
And the average driver on this forum or anywhere else for that matter wouldn't know the difference. :willy:

Nonsense. Drive one with magnetic ride in the different modes and tell me you can't tell the difference. The car is totally transformed.

sajonf 11-28-2013 10:40 AM

These pictures are perfect reasons to get the Z51 package

hotrod2147 11-28-2013 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by MikeyTX (Post 1585543364)
And the average driver on this forum or anywhere else for that matter wouldn't know the difference. :willy:

:iagree: :thumbs:

MikeyTX 11-28-2013 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by sajonf (Post 1585544311)
Nonsense. Drive one with magnetic ride in the different modes and tell me you can't tell the difference. The car is totally transformed.

In the C6, no question. Based on what several have said in other threads, the base suspension of the C7 is more than able to handle that which the average driver will ask of the car on the street. I'll also go out on a limb and say that by the third my, MRC will be a stand alone option for the 2LT. GM will go after those not wanting to spend the bucks for the Z51 option.

FLATJ 11-28-2013 11:12 AM

Whoever dies with the most toys wins. More options on your Corvette might help to break any ties.

punky 11-28-2013 11:58 AM

My last Corvette was a 2008 C6. Bought the car off a local dealers lot. It was a 1LT with NPP as its only option. I was hestitant to purchase it at first because all of my other prior Corvettes were loaded. I'll never "load up" a Corvette again. My base '08 convinced me from day one that I never needed any of that extra crap that in many cases is a bunch of soft guy stuff.

The Z51 is a good value at $2800 but is not if you don't have need for all or most of that stuff. The overwhelming majority of will never road race our C7s and will not ever need a dry sump system or any of the other upgrades. You can buy a spoiler and your choice of aftermarket wheels will be nearly endless.

LT Headers/Tune and aftermarket wheels on a 1LT will do me fine.

pietro c7 11-28-2013 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by sajonf (Post 1585544318)
These pictures are perfect reasons to get the Z51 package

Ouch....my internet feelings.....No worries, that's why they sell both.I do agree the same car with the Z51 package looks more substantial.

LIStingray 11-28-2013 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by sajonf (Post 1585544318)
These pictures are perfect reasons to get the Z51 package


Originally Posted by pietro c7 (Post 1585545176)
Ouch....my internet feelings.....No worries, that's why they sell both.I do agree the same car with the Z51 package looks more substantial.

And I thought it was because he just doesn't like LRG :lol:

DonOH 11-28-2013 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by LIStingray (Post 1585545219)
And I thought it was because he just doesn't like LRG :lol:

That's funny. I'm not a LRG fan, but I thought Pietro's car, without the oversized ski jump spoiler stuck on the back, looked really good in green with the stock wheels.


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