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anders1118 04-09-2015 08:03 PM

This thread is so pointless!!!!!! It can go on forever, its all about what you want/works for you! At the end of the day you have a C7 which is awesome!!!:thumbs:

RedC7AZ 04-09-2015 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by craig04c5 (Post 1585540830)
I think a lot of us have the same dilemma. The Z51 is faster.....

Z51 is faster around the track. There has been no undisputable evidence that it is faster in a straight line. I'm referring to people posting their 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. All we have to rely on are GMs 0-60 and 1/4 mile figures, which of course, show the Z51 is faster. How much of that is GM justification we don't know. Until identical Z51 and nonZ51 Automatics line up at a drag strip and race about 3 times we will never know for sure which is faster in a straight line. On manual cars there is too much driver variable.

So, on the street the Z51 would not be any faster, unless you'll be driving on the street at 9/10ths like you would on the track.

anders1118 04-10-2015 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by RedC7AZ (Post 1589384565)
Z51 is faster around the track. There has been no undisputable evidence that it is faster in a straight line. I'm referring to people posting their 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. All we have to rely on are GMs 0-60 and 1/4 mile figures, which of course, show the Z51 is faster. How much of that is GM justification we don't know. Until identical Z51 and nonZ51 Automatics line up at a drag strip and race about 3 times we will never know for sure which is faster in a straight line. On manual cars there is too much driver variable.

So, on the street the Z51 would not be any faster, unless you'll be driving on the street at 9/10ths like you would on the track.

I actually think the NON Z51 is faster in a straight line due to being lighter. On a track obviously the Z51 is faster. :thumbs:

sTz 04-10-2015 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by anders1118 (Post 1589388084)
I actually think the NON Z51 is faster in a straight line due to being lighter. On a track obviously the Z51 is faster. :thumbs:

While negligible, you have to also consider gearing: 2.73 vs. 2.56. http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/tra...#__federated=1

rkoblin 04-11-2015 01:20 PM

Can't Decide
 
If you can not afford the upgrades then it does not matter. The upgrades are a rounding error in the price of the car if you can afford it. Resale will be better with the upgrades. Here is your chance yo buy a CORVETTE or buy a Corvette. These choices are what makes America great.
:flaghalfmast:

Bmbarney 04-11-2015 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by DonTomassoC7 (Post 1589375816)
Oh no they are in the light the resale value and trade in value is higher I just traded my 2011 GS in and got the added money for a Z51 and it made a difference .How could it not it just makes sense .

:toetap:

So lets just say that you paid $2k more for an option. Did you get the full 2k when you sold it? Maybe if your lucky but not according to Kelly Blue Book. Sure the more you invest in options the more you will get back but not $ for $. You will loose normally on each option by a % at resale.

I was able to only loose 2k on my c7 base stingray. I know several that have Z51s with many options that could not afford to take a 10k hit for a trade on a Z06.

Not saying that some did not luck out but generally speaking.

RedC7AZ 04-11-2015 03:59 PM

Most C7 owners can afford the Z51 option. It's only a few thousand dollar option. The majority of those that don't get Z51 option either don't need it, don't want it, or don't like certain aspects of it, so the rational thought is.....why waste money on it.

In 3-5 years the resale value on a car without and a car with this option will be negligible. Resale value need not be a factor in making a decision on whether to get a C7 with the Z51 option or not.

9ball1104 04-11-2015 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by RedC7AZ (Post 1589394795)
Most C7 owners can afford the Z51 option. It's only a few thousand dollar option. The majority of those that don't get Z51 option either don't need it, don't want it, or don't like certain aspects of it, so the rational thought is.....why waste money on it.

In 3-5 years the resale value on a car without and a car with this option will be negligible. Resale value need not be a factor in making a decision on whether to get a C7 with the Z51 option or not.

Well said. And it's not even about wasting money. My C7 is a DD, so most of the Z51 parts are negatives for me. Don't particularly care for the Z51 wheels or the spoiler, I have virtually no brake dust, the ride is more comfortlable, and the dry sump is not well suited for short trips in the neighborhood. I got exactly what I wanted and couldn't be happier. Others may prefer the Z51, but my hat's off to all the non-Z51 owners who had the confidence to get what was right for them and not simply go with the crowd.

11B250 04-12-2015 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by RedC7AZ (Post 1589394795)
Most C7 owners can afford the Z51 option. It's only a few thousand dollar option. The majority of those that don't get Z51 option either don't need it, don't want it, or don't like certain aspects of it, so the rational thought is.....why waste money on it.

In 3-5 years the resale value on a car without and a car with this option will be negligible. Resale value need not be a factor in making a decision on whether to get a C7 with the Z51 option or not.

With getting ZF1 and NPP, the Z51 would have been a very inexpensive option for me. I chose not to get it because I really felt like I would be wasting money on stuff that I wouldn't utilize. the only reason I regret not getting Z51 is because the bigger brakes look better on the Z51 style wheels (they fill the inside better) unfortunately that is no reason to get Z51, because it would be purely for looks LOL.

I don't even think I would benefit from the e-lsd because I don't enter and exit apexes on local roads and we don't have any windy roads here in FL lol

JoesC5 04-12-2015 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by anders1118 (Post 1589388084)
I actually think the NON Z51 is faster in a straight line due to being lighter. On a track obviously the Z51 is faster. :thumbs:

While the base is lighter than the Z51, the Z51 has lower gearing( with both manual or auto transmission) that helps acceleration in a straight line.

rmorin1249 04-12-2015 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by 9ball1104 (Post 1589395761)
Well said. And it's not even about wasting money. My C7 is a DD, so with the exception of the electronic differential, all the the other Z51 parts are negatives for me. This may sound like heresy, but I honestly wouldn't have ordered a Z51 if it was a free option. Don't particularly care for the Z51 wheels or the spoiler, I have virtually no brake dust, the ride is more comfortlable, and the dry sump is not well suited for short trips in the neighborhood. I got exactly what I wanted and couldn't be happier. Others may prefer the Z51, but my hat's off to all the non-Z51 owners who had the confidence to get what was right for them and not simply go with the crowd.

Exactly my sentiments as well. I like the stock wheels and no spoiler. Don't need or want the high performance Z51 components so for me the base car is perfect.

firefighting101 04-12-2015 11:43 AM

I bought a non Z-51 because it was on the dealer lot and I got a great price. If I was ordering, it would have been a hard choice.

I say if you have to ask the question, just buy the Z-51 option.

Always Red Dave 04-12-2015 01:02 PM

I got a Z51 vert and I would have paid $2000 dollars just to get the SLOTTED ROTORS makes the car look even more BADAZZZZZZZ!
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...c7adf3606d.jpg

Keith N 04-12-2015 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Always Red Dave (Post 1589399445)
I got a Z51 vert and I would have paid $2000 dollars just to get the SLOTTED ROTORS makes the car look even more BADAZZZZZZZ!
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cor...c7adf3606d.jpg

Dave - I love the larger brakes and rotors on your C7 Z51 Vert and I'm sure you're enjoying the magnetic ride suspension. Great looking ride! :cool: :thumbs:

Always Red Dave 04-12-2015 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Keith N (Post 1589399502)
Dave - I love the larger brakes and rotors on your C7 Z51 Vert and I'm sure you're enjoying the magnetic ride suspension. Great looking ride! :cool: :thumbs:

Keith your Shark Gray Z51 Coupe with the same wheels and red calipers look great enjoy your 2015!:thumbs::cheers:

AFVETTE 04-15-2015 11:09 AM

The answer is to split the difference and get a ZF1


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