With the C7R prototype they shortened the rear fascia and added the lower wing type rear diffuser (and obvious other changes non-relevant to this discussion ). What do you think of the rear look with that mod (and removing that lower wing)?

http://image.motortrend.com/f/featur...e-c7r-rear.jpg

Your 2010 - 2013 convertible production numbers do not include Grand Sport convertibles. There were actually 2456 non-427 convertibles built during model year 2013. For 2012, the 621 you stated becomes 2889 after adding in the Grand Sports. Likewise, 2011's 780 becomes 3562 and 2010's 1003 becomes 3338.


As for the notion that GM made too many, they made exactly the number that were ordered by dealerships.

I have a C6Z and might trade for a C7 in the next day or two. Concern about the reliability of the 427 has led me to this.:(

I had the choice of either and chose the 427 this spring at a great discount. I have zero regrets and seriously doubt I will ever sell this car. It's been perfect out of the box and I've put 11,000 miles on it since March. I like old school and the motor is SWEET.

That said I may also add a Z07 C7 Vert when they have one. Early QC issues only serve to validate my decision, and I'm confident they will work all those out.

not the best comparison...should be vert to vert
 

I have a Z06 & a 427. I drove the C7 and both of my cars back to back.
The new C7 handles just as the magazine articles are claiming, just amazing. It is a leap forward over both cars. However both of my C6 Corvettes are quicker, at least they feel like they are. I didn't time anything on a track but I took all three cars through an aggressive back road-way and I was very impressed with the C7 but the other two cars felt quicker in the straight line. I am totally satisfied with my 427. When the C7 Z hi-po car comes out I will sell my Z06 and get the new Z06 but I will be keeping the 427 permanently. It has extreme character that no other car I have owned maintains. When I get out of the 427 after a cool drive it is so tough and very manly; similar to the Viper. My daily driver is a 2013 911S, it out handles all three of these cars, or better said allows you to drive it faster more relaxed. I traded my brother my 911s for his C7 for two days, the C7 makes a fantastic daily driver but not enough to make me want to get rid of the 427 to get the C7. They need to bring on the hi-po C7. The 427 is the fastest Vert ever. I will be shocked if the new C7 Vert would give the 427 a run for the money. It will need allot more Hp to do so. Just my limited opinion. You decide for yourselves.
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I'm keeping my 427 and my wife is selling her 06 Z51 Vert to make room for her new C7 Vert.

I've driven neither, but I'll take the C7. The LT1 coupe is turning in some impressive numbers, add in all the other refinements and improvements on the C7 and I'd say its the better car, but not by much. Both are highly desirable cars and anyone who gets to own one is doing fine. If the C7 never offers a big cube NA engine like the LS7, then the 427 is going to continue to be a special car for a long time. If the c7 run includes wide body hipo 427 vert and calls it the L88, well...

As a former Z06 owner, I do not miss the uneasy feeling of potential 15k dollar engine replacement. Part of my reasoning in selling the Z a couple years back. Since then lots of sad threads in the C6Z section of engine failures.

I know that issue has been beaten to death several times, bit didn't GM fix that in the middle of the 2011 model year? I thought they acknowledged a machining error in the heads that was corrected.

Research further and you'll see that ALL years apparently have engine problems.:(

Even 2013 427 verts?

That's a shame. I havent followed it, bit I assume by your post that you have. LS7 Vettes are still desirable, I guess you just allow for a preemptive modification when the warranty's up, but still, it's a bummer that you have to even take it into account.

The 427 is an over hyped poser edition. Great marketing makes many a fool.

Kinda like the fake girl to the left?:crazy2:

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But I agree with others....I'd rather get a C7 than a 427 vert. That car does not appeal to me whatsoever right now, especially with the C7 out...the 427 vert just screams "old man cruiser to Bob Evans on Sundays ride."

I think the diffuser on the C7 is too prominent detracts too much from the upper body panel. The rear end is too square at the upper corners.

I love the front clip of the C7 (minus the fangs), but I can't see the rear end winning me over at any time. Good news is I have a 427, but I know I'll be lusting over the Z07 vert as it'll be a monster.

Oh come on, I've never even been to a Bob Evans. I wonder what's in there?

Thanks for the good responses so far, everybody. The spreadsheet was very informative. Unbelievable that only 10% of 427s are Torch Red.

I think this is too early to debate. I think the fair comparison would be a C7 Z51 Convertible vs. the 427 Convertible. Ironically, Chevrolet in their brochures shows 0-60 times for both of them at 3.8 sec. I would guess that the C7 Z51 Convertible would be the better car with it's more rigid frame and new technology.

You are correct, I completely missed that; my fault.

Maybe GM didn't build any more than the dealers ordered, but maybe some dealers ordered one too many more than they thought they would be able to sell by now? I dunno, I still want one. :thumbs:

While I don't have a 427 Vert. I do have a Twin Turbo Widebody Vert with about 600 RWHP.

I would say that it's no comparison.

I have driven my C6 all of maybe 5 miles since I got my C7.

After logging about 1800 miles in the C7 the things I miss on my C6 is:
The open air vert feeling.
The top end twin turbo power.
The loud growing exhaust.
The "rawness" of the C6 - Stiff ride, hard clutch pedal, MGW short shifter.
My aftermarket stereo system.

Things the C7 has:
Seats! The seats are a world of a difference.
Handling
LCD info screens.
Nav
Headlights
Looks
Cargo Area


I didn't think the seats in my C6 were horrible because I just got used to it but after I got back in the C6 this weekend I was shocked at the difference.

I'm waiting for a HiPo C7 Vert. :thumbs: