Originally Posted by DCTandAWD? (Post 1585164230)

Sure, the Cayman is an an amazing car.
But, the lack of power and the price tag is a JOKE.
IF the Cayman S had twin turbo, AWD, and PDK, I would buy one for the $65k.
But, Porsche is INSANE for asking these prices and anyone who pays Porshce's prices is an IDIOT.
Lastly, everyone knows the Cayman is a superior car to the 911, but Porsche artificially limits the Cayman in order not to kill their cash cow 911.
The 911 continues to the "god" for all the Porche fan bois, while retaining the inferior rear engine layout.
These facts, combined with the ridiculous asking price, are the reasons Porsche makes me sick and I hate the company.

With that said, once I drive the C7, I hope it equals the chassis and steering of the Porsche so I don't waste anymore time considering dropping a LS3 in a Cayman.
If GM gave the Corvette the OPTIONS of AWD and DCT it DESERVES, there would be no defendable reason to buy a Porsche.

Originally Posted by johnglenntwo (Post 1585167497)

Porsche should put the Cayman on an equal footing with the 911s MAX power to shut everybody up.:thumbs: Everyone says it! If it didn't get too heavy and they could hold it together it would be bader then the 911, and probably the C7Z51 (with all its trim obviously).:yesnod: As it is not so much, boring! :smash:

:rock:

Originally Posted by johnglenntwo (Post 1585167497)

Porsche should put the Cayman on an equal footing with the 911s MAX power to shut everybody up.

Originally Posted by Notch (Post 1585169040)

Not going to happen.

Originally Posted by johnglenntwo (Post 1585172635)

It is an inherent physical fact that smaller lesser powered cars are going to feel better, and be more stable, driving even though they are slower because of the straights.:toetap:

So they should put in power to weight ratio controls for that Best Drivers Car type testing so we can properly analyze how all that TECH lines up.:yesnod:

Signed,
The Master of the Obvious!:D

:rock:

Originally Posted by DCTandAWD? (Post 1585173579)

Thanks for posting the link.
I read that article. I am NOT impressed.
Porsche is rumored to offer and additional 40hp?
Big deal. The Cayman has NO TORQUE and they will still probably want an additional $20k+ for the minimum power increase.

I've said it before, I would pay $65k for a Cayman S will the Turbo motor, AWD, and DCT. But, $75k+++ for a Cayman with a few extra ponies SQUEEZED out of their tiny naturally aspirated engine is a joke.
Porsche naturally aspirated engines, in general, are a joke compared to Corvette's LT1. I was out in the GT3 all night last night. No torgue and a ridiculous price tag on top. The engine sounds like crap compared to my Corvette and I couldn't wait to get out of that thing after the suspension beat me up all night. LT1 and MSRC for the win.

The only thing Porsche brings to the table is the Cayman, AWD, DCT and the Turbo motor. But, they all together in the Cayman S and you will have a car worth buying for $65k.
Everything else insults our intelligence, especially when compared to the C7.

Originally Posted by DCTandAWD? (Post 1585174227)

Shoulda got a turbo Nick.
Since I've been in your house, I know you can definitely afford it. :D
And, it definitely DOES lack torque. I can't believe anyone would say that it doesn't, ESPECIALLY you.

I like your new 911 for a commuter car, especially with the DCT, but I would never spend what you did for that, and I would never have bought a 911 without turbos and awd.
You already have a RWD beast.

Frankly, I'm shocked a boost addict who knows what real power is like you would settle for anything less than a Turbo.
I was bummed out when you got rid of your last Turbo.

Originally Posted by DCTandAWD? (Post 1585173579)

The Cayman has NO TORQUE
The only thing Porsche brings to the table is the Cayman, AWD, DCT and the Turbo motor. But, they all together in the Cayman S and you will have a car worth buying for $65k.
Everything else insults our intelligence, especially when compared to the C7.

Originally Posted by DCTandAWD? (Post 1585165193)

Especially those.

Originally Posted by DCTandAWD? (Post 1585175400)

Idiotic would be responding to you on here. I don't have the desire or the finger stamina to go post for post with someone who's post history on CF resembles encyclopedias of worthless magazine info.
I now Nick actually owns fast cars and actually takes them to the track instead of reading magazines. He's been in my Corvette as well.
Since I don't have the magazine reading and keyboard typing stamina that you have, what cars do you actually own and what track will you actually be running your cars so we can have this discussion verbally ??? :D

Originally Posted by Guibo (Post 1585175467)

Then don't go post for post with me. Simply answer the question of why Corvette owners who also have bought Porsches are especially idiotic. The rest of your post doesn't get any closer to answering that question.
So...where is this $65k car with AWD, DCT, and Turbo levels of power?