Originally Posted by michaelinmech
(Post 1584720844)
^ Outstanding Idea - I can simply use the 'Minetti Draft' and just change the names of the accused and offending details.
:thumbs: OP,from the sounds of your recent posts, apparently you are warming up to the shortcomings of your purchase as it sounds as though the modification bug as bitten...one day we'll all look back on this and have a good laugh...:rofl::rofl::rofl: |
This all seems bizarre. Buyer beware...always. About not liking 'negative' posts...dude, this is essentially an anonymous forum. Imagine out drinking beers with guys that don't sugarcoat things. Lots of different opinions. If you don't want the opinions don't put the comments out for comment. Simple as that.
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Originally Posted by RHMinetti
(Post 1584721690)
Of course I knew all the shortcomings with the exception of the copious brake dust. I was led to believe that the rag top hold down latch would loosen up but it hasn't. Also that the rear view camera could be incorporated into the current electronics. Also not true. I wanted GM to pay for replacing the brake pads with ceramic; I don't race this car. And since the racing stripe is starting to come loose, to pay for having the stripes painted on. I guess I trusted one too many people.
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Interesting, I've seen a million threads about people complaining about brake dust and they're told to use Ceramic pads and get a pat on the back, this guy has 6 pages of STFU
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GM just announced a major recall of all C6 corvettes due to an undisclosed problem...they may get dirty! The issue is especially apparent when driven in the rain!
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Originally Posted by JimTN
(Post 1584711139)
This is a forum and members are allowed to post their comments on anything that's posted. If any posts contain personal attacks or hostility or inappropriate language, report them using the red triangle icon under their username.
It is apparent to me that there are a bunch of hypocrites out there that have, judging by the pictures that I've seen, not been satisfied with their choice Corvette. They have changed almost everything one could think of, from minor changes to the Corvette lettering to massive body style changes. When I try to suggest changes to GM they all jumped on me. This forum was a total waste of my time and I'll not respond to any more threads, posts, etc. Bye. |
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Originally Posted by RHMinetti
(Post 1584723268)
Thank you.
It is apparent to me that there are a bunch of hypocrites out there that have, judging by the pictures that I've seen, not been satisfied with their choice Corvette. They have changed almost everything one could think of, from minor changes to the Corvette lettering to massive body style changes. When I try to suggest changes to GM they all jumped on me. This forum was a total waste of my time and I'll not respond to any more threads, posts, etc. Bye. Besides, it wasn't that I thought the car was bad to begin with, I loved it when I bought it new in 2006. I just chose to make it how I wanted it to look.... I suggest you sell yours and buy another Prius... seems to me that is where your heart is:thumbs: Safe travels....:crazy2: |
Originally Posted by RHMinetti
(Post 1584723268)
Thank you.
It is apparent to me that there are a bunch of hypocrites out there that have, judging by the pictures that I've seen, not been satisfied with their choice Corvette. They have changed almost everything one could think of, from minor changes to the Corvette lettering to massive body style changes. When I try to suggest changes to GM they all jumped on me. This forum was a total waste of my time and I'll not respond to any more threads, posts, etc. Bye. What you describe is called "modifying", or "personalizing". I did it with both my Mustangs and my first C6 Corvette. If I purchased a "comfortably equipped" Cadillac I would likely do it also. It's part of the car enthusiast thing, and it is a progressive activity that happens as the fellas share insight in issues regarding looks, power, handling, etc. This is different with how you presented your case here. I'm actually surprised that you are surprised. It is possible that the 95% of us are wrong, and rude, and even hypocrites, and that you are correct and the only one with common sense in this entire board. But, chances are that the opposite might be more the case. Maybe just a little bit. You seem to be a reasonable man. But, thus far, you appear to be very sensitive to criticism and somewhat stubborn to analyze the merits of points of view that don't line up with yours. Some of the fellas here have owned Corvettes for over 20, or 30 years. Maybe they know a thing or two about the subject matter, don't you think? |
Originally Posted by RHMinetti
(Post 1584723268)
Thank you.
It is apparent to me that there are a bunch of hypocrites out there that have, judging by the pictures that I've seen, not been satisfied with their choice Corvette. They have changed almost everything one could think of, from minor changes to the Corvette lettering to massive body style changes. When I try to suggest changes to GM they all jumped on me. This forum was a total waste of my time and I'll not respond to any more threads, posts, etc. Bye.
Originally Posted by mcandrew67
(Post 1584723305)
I am one of those infidels that changed everything on my Corvette. The difference is, I didn't complain to GM, the forum, or anyone else about it. I did it all on my own with my own money and my own time, and didn't expect GM to reimburse me for it all.
Besides, it wasn't that I thought the car was bad to begin with, I loved it when I bought it new in 2006. I just chose to make it how I wanted it to look.... I suggest you sell yours and buy another Prius... seems to me that is where your heart is:thumbs: Safe travels....:crazy2: I actually get up your way from time to time and would have been happy to have met you and see your corvette. I can be reached here by PM if you like. The invitation is always open. Good luck to you and best regards. :cheers: |
Originally Posted by RHMinetti
(Post 1584723268)
Thank you.
It is apparent to me that there are a bunch of hypocrites out there that have, judging by the pictures that I've seen, not been satisfied with their choice Corvette. They have changed almost everything one could think of, from minor changes to the Corvette lettering to massive body style changes. When I try to suggest changes to GM they all jumped on me. This forum was a total waste of my time and I'll not respond to any more threads, posts, etc. Bye. |
Originally Posted by RHMinetti
(Post 1584723268)
Thank you.
It is apparent to me that there are a bunch of hypocrites out there that have, judging by the pictures that I've seen, not been satisfied with their choice Corvette. They have changed almost everything one could think of, from minor changes to the Corvette lettering to massive body style changes. When I try to suggest changes to GM they all jumped on me. This forum was a total waste of my time and I'll not respond to any more threads, posts, etc. Bye. If anyone needs to find him, check the Prius boards.:ack: |
Bye Bye
FRANCIS |
Originally Posted by wayback
(Post 1584723568)
Bet ya a dime to a doughnut he does not even own a C6.
If anyone needs to find him, check the Prius boards.:ack: Why would you think this? The letter that was attached on the other thread has several identifiers in it. Seems VERY genuine to me. Not anonymous at all. I give a LOT of credit to the OP for this. It was unfortunate his forum experience was not to his taste. :cheers: |
Originally Posted by RHMinetti
(Post 1584723268)
Thank you.
It is apparent to me that there are a bunch of hypocrites out there that have, judging by the pictures that I've seen, not been satisfied with their choice Corvette. They have changed almost everything one could think of, from minor changes to the Corvette lettering to massive body style changes. When I try to suggest changes to GM they all jumped on me. This forum was a total waste of my time and I'll not respond to any more threads, posts, etc. Bye. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out ! :seeya: |
Originally Posted by theblackvette
(Post 1584723639)
I think I would take that bet.
Why would you think this? The letter that was attached on the other thread has several identifiers in it. Seems VERY genuine to me. Not anonymous at all. I give a LOT of credit to the OP for this. It was unfortunate his forum experience was not to his taste. :cheers: :cheers: ps I am one of the "hypocrites" who made changes to their C6. Yep, I made it the way I wanted it.:D |
I am sorry you had to receive the negative comments. Unfortunately there are some that are so consumed in love for Corvettes they see no weaknesses in the vehicle. Don't get me wrong, I love my C6 but an always interested in the opinions of others , where I might learn.
I have sent questions in the past, seeking advice and on a few occassions receive very sarcastic replies. Some negative folks find it convenient to hide behind the keyboard. |
Originally Posted by wayback
(Post 1584723778)
Just find it hard to believe someone could buy a Corvette and then act the way he did. Most owners are so excited by the performance of their C6 they can't stand it.:lol:
:cheers: ps I am one of the "hypocrites" who made changes to their C6. Yep, I made it the way I wanted it.:D There is a human being behind that keyboard that has feelings. I actually would like to meet the guy and see his car. I think his offline persona would be very tasteful. I do hope I hear from him. :cheers: |
I'm sure he is a nice guy too, but these days, to post on a forum, you really do have to have thick skin.
I think where it went down hill was not so much that he had gripes with his Vette, but his sense of entitlement to have things changed on his car at GM's expense. (excluding warranty items) Most have participated in some form of gripe at some time or other on the forum, myself included. I guess, in some way he should be grateful he chose C6 Gen to post and not OT..... Richard, I think you should stick around the forum, I think you will find us a good bunch at heart, just some of us are very sarcastic, if not I wish you well... :cheers:David |
Originally Posted by mcandrew67
(Post 1584723923)
I'm sure he is a nice guy too, but these days, to post on a forum, you really do have to have thick skin.
I think where it went down hill was not so much that he had gripes with his Vette, but his sense of entitlement to have things changed on his car at GM's expense. (excluding warranty items) Most have participated in some form of gripe at some time or other on the forum, myself included. I guess, in some way he should be grateful he chose C6 Gen to post and not OT..... Richard, I think you should stick around the forum, I think you will find us a good bunch at heart, just some of us are very sarcastic, if not I wish you well... :cheers:David Most dealerships would have heard him out, and do what they can to please him. Maybe not to take the car back but do things to make him happier. The paint and stripes IS an issue that needs attention. This is something the dealership needs to correct on a new car. His biggest issue was the brake dust. The dealership may have upgraded the brakes and charged the customer their cost as a goodwill to make him happy for the trouble with the paint as well as his disdain for the brake dust. Furthermore, the service manager and fleet manager could have sat with him to discuss his other concerns and maybe bring him more into the know about the corvette. Simply put, I think the outcome would have been much different and BETTER if he went to the dealership FIRST, then posted on the forum, and if that was not to his satisfaction to contact General Motors. This was a most unfortunate situatiion to say the least. Best regards. :cheers: |
I think his biggest problem with the forum is how he presented his gripes. No where did I read that he liked his Corvette. That omission alone will make you an outcast here.
Like previously posted there have been many threads about how bad the brake dust is. Ceramic pads will help, but not eliminate the problem. To make his first post the way he did, what other outcome would you expect? Hopefully he will find a way to enjoy his C6 for what it is, faults and all (we all overlook the faults). Yes the C6 does have faults, all cars do. But IMHO the C6 is one great car overall.:thumbs: |
Originally Posted by wayback
(Post 1584724280)
I think his biggest problem with the forum is how he presented his gripes. No where did I read that he liked his Corvette. That omission alone will make you an outcast here.
The OP simply was disatisfied and was presented his personal disatisfaction. Character assasination was really unfortunate and it became a pile up on the OP situation. I don't think people really meant any harm by it and even turned into a bit of let's have a little fun on the forum at the OP's expense. This was a shame considering that the OP did not present himself anonymously here. I did send the OP an email. I hope I do get a response. :cheers: |
Originally Posted by theblackvette
(Post 1584724334)
True to a point, but the response generated should have been more directed to an obvious troll. One who is anonymous and obviously baiting the forum. I see the OP as neither.
The OP simply was disatisfied and was presented his personal disatisfaction. Character assasination was really unfortunate and it became a pile up on the OP situation. I don't think people really meant any harm by it and even turned into a bit of let's have a little fun on the forum at the OP's expense. This was a shame considering that the OP did not present himself anonymously here. I did send the OP an email. I hope I do get a response. :cheers: |
It seems the OP bought his C6 without proper research, just like he paid to join the forum without spending any time here to see what it was about.
Like clubs, forums aren't for everyone. It's obvious that an internet forum is not for him. |
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I agree a little with theblackvette. There were some character assassination but definitely not to the extent I would have expected.
The OP is definitely not a troll. I did do a little research on his information and it appears its accurate. With that being said, I think the OP simply has very little understanding on how to present his concerns and did it in a manner that didn't work out the way he intended. Wayback said "No where did I read that he liked his Corvette". However, the OP did mention in his letter about some of the things he was pleased with. When I first read the OP's original thread I thought he was some arrogant person who thinks the world should be given to him. I now feel sorry for the OP as he seems to be lacking understanding in so many areas that it is almost pathetic. There are definitely going to be people like the OP in the world and anyone who deals with customers for a living has probably met at least one of them. Sometimes its just easier to do what is reasonable to make them happy rather than to try to take a very long time to help them understand why things are the way they are. On the flip side, that doesn't mean that GM should give him ceramic brake pads just because the OP wrote a letter. Just my 2 cents.. |
Originally Posted by RHMinetti
(Post 1584707470)
To those of you that have responded positively to my original post I sincerely thank you for your input. It is indeed appreciated.
To those of you that have responded negatively, including those of you that have used less than desirable language, please consider not responding at all in the future, certainly not if the response is going to be less than positive; it really serves no useful purpose. There are, and always will be, those that are satisfied with the "status quo" and those of us that continue to push for positive change. Hopefully the positive change crowd will win out and make things better for everyone, not only where Corvettes are concerned. Even one of your board members responded quite negatively to the original post and is apparently not in tune with any positive change nor, in my mind, is a progressive asset to your board in general. I did not post the original post so I could be ridiculed but so that I could help bring about some positive change. I can see that most of the Corvette owners that responded are not of a "positive change" mindset. Be that as it may, buying the Corvette may have been a mistake where my wife's capabilities are concerned, and some of my desires, but joining this "Forum" may have indeed been my biggest mistake. Again, thank you to those that have responded positively, you are a credit to this Forum. Stay in there and continue to provide valuable input, in spite of the "naysayers". Sincerely, Richard H Minetti 1. Was this your first Corvette? 2. What sports cars in the price category meets all of your criteria? |
I don't own a C6 or a convertible, so I may not be up on the latest ... but doesn't the 3LT package come with a power convertible top?
And I'm pretty sure that the memory package he so desperately wanted is also available ... with the 3LT package. If you don't want to see scuff marks, then get a black interior! Poor guy - some of the things he complained about could have been resolved - had he just bought the right car! Steven |
Originally Posted by OldCorvetteFan
(Post 1584726653)
I don't own a C6 or a convertible, so I may not be up on the latest ... but doesn't the 3LT package come with a power convertible top?Steven
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Originally Posted by Tally Ho
(Post 1584726844)
Not in 2005 (1SB) or 2006 (3LT). It was optional. The 3LT convertibles from 2007 up came with power top as part of the package.
For a great "boulevard cruiser" (actually I may not be sure exactly what that is, ...) I would recommend the OP get a BMW 650 vert. The top on that one does not have a manual locking mechanism. That car certainly won't be in the same price range, however. |
Mr. Minetti.......Don't go away mad....JUST GO AWAY!!!!!!!
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Tons of Major losers on Corvette Forum
Don't let them bother u It's a sports car; even the Shelby Cobra has crappy seats, flimsy dash, and joke of convertible top The Ford GT uses Focus parts and Explorer latches on doors They save some place so u can have a great car overall |
WHATEVER - That's the word that comes to my mind in summarizing this Thread. When you think about it, this, for the largest part, was not about Corvettes. It was about buying something/anything, without proper research, welling up with buyers remorse, and foisting your dissatisfaction on a Member Group of Enthusiasts of the very product you criticize.
It would not matter if this was a Enthusiast Member Forum for Harley Davidson, John Deere, Jeep, Rolex, or whatever. If a Member Enthusiast Forum sees a Thread critical of the very object of their passion, expect the immediate/continuous reaction to be defensive, passionate, divisive, debating and immediate. No one wants to hear their 'item' being disparaged. This is even more true when the criticisms are so superficial to indicate little or no pre-purchase research by the buyer. Dear Harley Davidson - I'm angry my motorcycle exhaust pipes get hot Dear Rolex - I'm mad that people keep eyeballing my gold president Dear Jeep - This thing rides like a damm Jeep :eek::thumbs::eek: |
Just home from work and tuning into the afternoon Minetti matinee.......:lurk:
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Originally Posted by R&L's C6
(Post 1584727277)
Just home from work and tuning into the afternoon Minetti matinee.......:lurk:
WELL . . . in today's episode so far, we revisit brake dust, talks mods, Minetti vows to never post again, members say bye bye to Minetti in varying ways, potential trolling is debated, a few olive branches are extended, member character is questioned and a few options and trim levels are reviewed . . . . . . This programming is brought to you by "The Reading is Fundamental Group" - advocating a bit of research before you spend $$$$$. :thumbs: |
I think that it is unreasonable of you to either: 1. Expect only positive comments on your post. or 2. Tell people who did not agree with you that they should not have posted at all.
Forums are places for disagreement. I would not have spent 60 seconds reading the thread if everyone just said how right you were...no fun or interest there. Some agree...some disagree. This is what makes the world go 'round. I personally believe that your expectations and complaints about the C6 are unreasonable and unrealistic. That's just me. Many of the things you suggest would be undesirable changes to the car. An example would be a trunk lid pulldown. I close my trunk lid by flipping it down with the force of one finger. It goes down and 'clunk', it latches. To add an electric pull down would be silly to me...added complication, weight etc.:thumbs: |
Originally Posted by michaelinmech
(Post 1584727395)
WELL . . . in today's episode so far, we revisit brake dust, talks mods, Minetti vows to never post again, members say bye bye to Minetti in varying ways, potential trolling is debated, a few olive branches are extended, member character is questioned and a few options and trim levels are reviewed . . . . . .
This programming is brought to you by "The Reading is Fundamental Group" - advocating a bit of research before you spend $$$$$. :thumbs: |
Originally Posted by theblackvette
(Post 1584723800)
I understand the hard to believe, but the VIN number of his corvette is even posted .......
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Originally Posted by cclive
(Post 1584727563)
I think that it is unreasonable of you to either: 1. Expect only positive comments on your post. or 2. Tell people who did not agree with you that they should not have posted at all.
Forums are places for disagreement. I would not have spent 60 seconds reading the thread if everyone just said how right you were...no fun or interest there. Some agree...some disagree. This is what makes the world go 'round. I personally believe that your expectations and complaints about the C6 are unreasonable and unrealistic. That's just me. Many of the things you suggest would be undesirable changes to the car. An example would be a trunk lid pulldown. I close my trunk lid by flipping it down with the force of one finger. It goes down and 'clunk', it latches. To add an electric pull down would be silly to me...added complication, weight etc.:thumbs: |
Originally Posted by cclive
(Post 1584727563)
I think that it is unreasonable of you to either: 1. Expect only positive comments on your post. or 2. Tell people who did not agree with you that they should not have posted at all.
Forums are places for disagreement. I would not have spent 60 seconds reading the thread if everyone just said how right you were...no fun or interest there. Some agree...some disagree. This is what makes the world go 'round. I personally believe that your expectations and complaints about the C6 are unreasonable and unrealistic. That's just me. Many of the things you suggest would be undesirable changes to the car. An example would be a trunk lid pulldown. I close my trunk lid by flipping it down with the force of one finger. It goes down and 'clunk', it latches. To add an electric pull down would be silly to me...added complication, weight etc.:thumbs: So much for that complaint.:D |
Originally Posted by R&L's C6
(Post 1584727277)
Just home from work and tuning into the afternoon Minetti matinee.......:lurk:
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Originally Posted by michaelinmech
(Post 1584727395)
WELL . . . in today's episode so far, we revisit brake dust, talks mods, Minetti vows to never post again, members say bye bye to Minetti in varying ways, potential trolling is debated, a few olive branches are extended, member character is questioned and a few options and trim levels are reviewed . . . . . .
This programming is brought to you by "The Reading is Fundamental Group" - advocating a bit of research before you spend $$$$$. :thumbs: I sure hope the OP has a sense of humor and doesn't take all this too seriously. Most all of us have posted something and taken it on the chops a time or two. To the OP I would like to leave you with something one of my friends told me after I bought my Corvette and was having some quality control issues. He called me up and said if everyone's main problem in life was they were having troubles with their new Corvette......wouldn't life be great.. |
Originally Posted by R&L's C6
(Post 1584727900)
:rofl::rofl:
I sure hope the OP has a sense of humor and doesn't take all this too seriously. Most all of us have posted something and taken it on the chops a time or two. To the OP I would like to leave you with something one of my friends told me after I bought my Corvette and was having some quality control issues. He called me up and said if everyone's main problem in life was they were having troubles with their new Corvette......wouldn't life be great.. ps I have never posted anything here to have taken it on the chops.:rofl::rofl: |
Originally Posted by wayback
(Post 1584727849)
The do have a electric pull down, at least my 07 does. I just drop it from 3 to 4 in, just enough for it to catch, and the motor pulls it down.
So much for that complaint.:D |
Originally Posted by R&L's C6
(Post 1584727900)
:rofl::rofl:
I sure hope the OP has a sense of humor and doesn't take all this too seriously. Most all of us have posted something and taken it on the chops a time or two. To the OP I would like to leave you with something one of my friends told me after I bought my Corvette and was having some quality control issues. He called me up and said if everyone's main problem in life was they were having troubles with their new Corvette......wouldn't life be great.. Was this really worth it? Simply a rhetorical question. Best regards. :cheers: |
Originally Posted by wayback
(Post 1584727968)
And I was amazed at how well you coped with that whole mess.:cheers:
ps I have never posted anything here to have taken it on the chops.:rofl::rofl: |
Originally Posted by Corvette Junkie
(Post 1584728009)
You don't have one on convertibles.
I bought a 06 vert I had to have only to find out it was only usable 3 to 4 months of the year. Rest of the time it was too hot or cold. Coupe was better for me. So we all live and learn from our mistakes. I was luckly and sold the vert for more than I paid for it. |
Hands down funniest thing I've read all week. The letter was great! This has to be a joke.
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Originally Posted by wayback
(Post 1584727849)
The do have a electric pull down, at least my 07 does. I just drop it from 3 to 4 in, just enough for it to catch, and the motor pulls it down.
So much for that complaint.:D I have to close the trunk with my own hands pushing down; and I have to pull down a bit, and twist the convertible top locking handle once the motors have stopped unfolding it into the "up" position. It has never occurred to me that either of these was an issue or a design problem with the car. I have not expressed any concerns or regrets as a result of them, nor do I anticipate doing so. . |
Originally Posted by AddisonD
(Post 1584728148)
Really? What part of your car has an electric pull down? Nothing like that exists on my '11 GS vert.
I have to close the trunk with my own hands pushing down; and I have to pull down a bit, and twist the convertible top locking handle once the motors have stopped unfolding it into the "up" position. It has never occurred to me that either of these was an issue or a design problem with the car. I have not expressed any concerns or regrets as a result of them, nor do I anticipate doing so. . |
Originally Posted by R&L's C6
(Post 1584728192)
Coupes have an electric pull down on the hatch.
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Originally Posted by R&L's C6
(Post 1584728105)
But at least Tadge answered my email, how many can say that....:lol:
Perhaps because it was genuine and sincere, rather than confrontational and derogatory ??? Just a wild guess . . . . . :confused2: |
Originally Posted by theblackvette
(Post 1584724167)
One thing I do find puzzling is why the OP did not discuss this with his dealership, FIRST. He went right up the chain of command. He says this in his letter he did not discuss it with the dealership.
Most dealerships would have heard him out, and do what they can to please him. Maybe not to take the car back but do things to make him happier. The paint and stripes IS an issue that needs attention. This is something the dealership needs to correct on a new car. His biggest issue was the brake dust. The dealership may have upgraded the brakes and charged the customer their cost as a goodwill to make him happy for the trouble with the paint as well as his disdain for the brake dust. Furthermore, the service manager and fleet manager could have sat with him to discuss his other concerns and maybe bring him more into the know about the corvette. Simply put, I think the outcome would have been much different and BETTER if he went to the dealership FIRST, then posted on the forum, and if that was not to his satisfaction to contact General Motors. This was a most unfortunate situatiion to say the least. Best regards. :cheers: |
Some times you just buy the wrong car. I have had 67 cars in my 73 years; most of then special interest cars; 911's, BMW's and Corvettes, among many others. Last year I sold my 09 Corvette Vert just because I had had it for five years and I was ready to do something different. I bought a new BMW M3. By all accounts, a terrific car, and it is, but not for me. Cars, like people, have personalities, and you like them or you don't. Most times you can't explain why. And many times it has nothing to do with whether they are reliable or not. Sometimes the people, like cars, that you like most are not reliable either. In any event, the 2013 BMW M3 lasted less then 9 months the our garage. Was it a better car, analytically, then the 013 GS that replaced it? In most respects, yes. But I didn't like it; and I never bonded with it. When you have have a relative that you don't like, there's not much that you can do about that, but when you have have a car you don't like, the dealer is just down the street.
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>owns a prius
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Originally Posted by RHMinetti
(Post 1584723268)
Thank you.
This forum was a total waste of my time and I'll not respond to any more threads, posts, etc. Bye. We don't need the OP to keep ripping into this one. . |
Originally Posted by AORoads
(Post 1584728405)
Just one small point of information: don't you find it odd that chev customer service hasn't chimed in to assist? Is it because they have looked into it privately? Or, is it because they looked at the merits of the issues discussed and deemed them inappropriate for them to become involved? Whichever is the case, the silence is deafening.
There's really nothing to chime in on, it's like me buying a Mack truck and then complaining to Mack that it's bad on gas and doesn't fit in my residential garage, and my wife can't drive it because the steering wheel is too big and it's hard on turns. His letter to GM is about, ohh say, 8 years too late. |
The OP is 80 years old and a Korean War veteran. Some of you can stop with the personal insults any time, it's getting tiresome.
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My Dad passed away at 93 years old a couple years ago, a former WWII POW. One thing I have learned from that generation is that you don't screw with them. There isn't anyone on here that can make him upset though.
At times it is hard to believe the OP is even real. Usually people from that generation will look into a purchase this big with extreme detail such as ask questions at a car show. If anything, his letter proves a point. The C6 is really a great vehicle since he could only find those faults (one was not even valid as the gas cap holder is there). His main point seems to be the back up camera, or lack of it. Unfortunately back in 2004 GM put an electrical component system in this car that is not that upgradable and it would cost too much to change it. The fact is that GM designs usually don't last 9 years (or any manufacturer designs for that matter). |
I can understand the OP's complaints at his age... Being 26 years old, those frivolous issues don't bother me. I certainly can see though at his age how backing up without a backup camera could be difficult, I usually open my door and look back as I back up slowly. I also manually lift the steering wheel to get in and out the car easier.
If I was concerned with all the bells and whistles I would have kept my Lexus IS-F but simple fact is many vehicles lack the personality and fun that the Vette offers. Maybe he assumed at $60K, those features would be standard and didn't fully research it. Either way, good luck to the OP. Give yourself some time and you might grow to enjoy your Vette. |
Who the hell buys a vette and whines that it's too low and doesn't have the e-brake properly placed and calibrated??? I'll tell you who, someone who wanted a used Mercedes and made a wrong turn into a chevy dealership and landed in a PERFORMANCE CAR...I could give two sh!ts about all the things he whined about...all those issues disappear magically between 3500RPM and redline...sell that vette please and give it to someone who wants it for what it is: A PERFORMANCE CAR! Geeze....
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Mr. Minetti,
You don't have to respond to this. I want to publicly thank you for your service. As many stated, brake dust is a by-product of disc brakes. I'm sure there is someone who can help you find a solution to the other problems you mentioned. Like you, and others who served before and after you, the Corvette is an American icon! It's not perfect but it is awesome in many ways. If you want it to be a boulevard cruiser, it can be that. The Vette is many things to many people! Embrace the things you like about it and find solutions for the other things like you mentioned. I hope to still be wheeling my Vette when I'm 80. I salute you! |
Always someone crying about something..... DON'T CRY buddy!!!
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I appreciate his service to his country. I wonder how many of his detractors served in the military? Leave the fellow alone and show some respect .
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Originally Posted by Spowell637
(Post 1584732010)
I appreciate his service to his country. I wonder how many of his detractors served in the military? Leave the fellow alone and show some respect .
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He earned respect before most of you were born.
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Well if he served (which I didnt know, didnt read all the posts of this thread but I did read all from the other thread) then I definitely respect him for that, but we can all agree some if not most of his complaints were absurd...but hey good luck to him.
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Originally Posted by Spowell637
(Post 1584732010)
I appreciate his service to his country. I wonder how many of his detractors served in military? Leave the fellow aone and show some respect .
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Originally Posted by brooklync5
(Post 1584733896)
Your not the sharpest tool in the shed are you? What does his military service have to do with his absurd complaints? Absolutely nothing! While I'm sure most of us are greatful for his service to our country, one thing has nothing to do with another. From what I've gathered he hates his car because of brake dust. Come on now......
:iagree: Being a Veteran doesn't make him immune from making a ridiculous post. Brake dust? :lol: :lol: |
Brooklync5, you are correct , I'm not the sharpest knife in the shed but I do know the correct spelling and context of grateful.
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Originally Posted by glenB
(Post 1584711340)
Positive change... lets see, oh yes, the C6 production has ended
After reading the post about 'positive change' it reminds me of someone's else's 'Positive Change' .... |
Note to self:
Never ever post your thoughts/beliefs on a public forum and not expect to receive feedback from both sides of the coin, both positive and negative. The OP in this case made an uninformed decision regarding his C6 purchase. We all make mistakes. We all have to pay the piper. Generally speaking, this forum hosts a wealth of good people sharing a common interest. :cheers: |
Originally Posted by vetdude
(Post 1584735386)
Note to self:
Never ever post your thoughts/beliefs on a public forum and not expect to receive feedback from both sides of the coin, both positive and negative. The OP in this case made an uninformed decision regarding his C6 purchase. We all make mistakes. We all have to pay the piper. Generally speaking, this forum hosts a wealth of good people sharing a common interest. :cheers: |
Originally Posted by brooklync5
(Post 1584733896)
Your not the sharpest tool in the shed are you? What does his military service have to do with his absurd complaints? Absolutely nothing! While I'm sure most of us are greatful for his service to our country, one thing has nothing to do with another. From what I've gathered he hates his car because of brake dust. Come on now......
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Originally Posted by Spowell637
(Post 1584734118)
Brooklync5, you are correct , I'm not the sharpest knife in the shed but I do know the correct spelling and context of grateful.
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Maybe you should write a letter to Toyota complaining that you have trouble finding your Prius when you park it in a field of toaster ovens. :eek:
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Originally Posted by brooklync5
(Post 1584735823)
Lol good call you got me!
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Actually as a veteran, the OP and our brother and sister veterans service and sacrifices has provided the freedom of speech...Being a veteran myself, I agree that military service and getting on your soap box about buyer remourse have nothing to do with one or the other.
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My Dad did two tours in the south Pacific in WWII...but it never meant that I couldn't disagree with him about something...unless it was the Navy or the South Pacific.:D
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Originally Posted by BlueAngelSAE
(Post 1584738511)
Actually as a veteran, the OP and our brother and sister veterans service and sacrifices has provided the freedom of speech...Being a veteran myself, I agree that military service and getting on your soap box about buyer remourse have nothing to do with one or the other.
I do, however, applaud all our veterans for their service.:flag: |
Originally Posted by ck9887
(Post 1584730403)
I can understand the OP's complaints at his age... Being 26 years old, those frivolous issues don't bother me. I certainly can see though at his age how backing up without a backup camera could be difficult, I usually open my door and look back as I back up slowly. I also manually lift the steering wheel to get in and out the car easier.
If I was concerned with all the bells and whistles I would have kept my Lexus IS-F but simple fact is many vehicles lack the personality and fun that the Vette offers. Maybe he assumed at $60K, those features would be standard and didn't fully research it. Either way, good luck to the OP. Give yourself some time and you might grow to enjoy your Vette. |
If you can't enjoy a Corvette then what on this earth can you enjoy?
OP complained the emergency brake is on the wrong side. How often is the emergency brake used? Honestly? I don't think I ever used it on my C6. My C6 was a dream come true and selling her was a sad day. I made a lot of brake dust. It happens. I figure each bit of dust was one heck of a stop or turn. :D:thumbs: There is no reason to not enjoy a Corvette. Get in, put the seat belt on, push the start button and go. All you need is to find a road you like and go. When you get tired stop for a hot dog and fries then get back in and drive some more. :cheers: Don't give up. In my opinion Corvette is the best sports car and I've driven Porsche. It is faster, sticks to the road better, and is fun. |
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Originally Posted by RHMinetti
(Post 1584720048)
Tally Ho,
Thank you much for the most productive answer to either of my posts. Too bad many of the others in the forum don't follow your example. I'll probably make my own modifications to please both my wife and myself. Too bad GM didn't have the foresight to address these issues long ago. Thanks again. Richard |
Originally Posted by Corvette Junkie
(Post 1584728009)
You don't have one on convertibles.
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Originally Posted by CSIXX1
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Do you really think that a car manufacture can design or build a car to satisfy everyone!
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Wow,this thread is cracking me up .I got on this thread almost a year before I bought my Corvette GS convertible .From this forum I learned about brake dust,gas mileage than the narrow body.I learned what every button did and what kind of information it would give you back.I ask for help from the members about certain things I did not know in always got back answers that were helpful and sometimes not so helpful.I'd be willing to bet I know more about the Corvette been a lot of the dealers do.The the people on this forum have many more years of experience with the Vette than I do and I used their knowledge so I would know exactly what I was buying.If I read this thread right you're only 26 years old . You obviously did not do any research before buying your vehicle .I have owned my 2012 Centennial Edition convertible 4 LT for 8 months now and have put on almost 9,000 miles .I Drive it everyday in the rain ,on frosty roads ,and even drove it
in 2 to 3 inches of snow when I brought it home from Michigan.No no matter how bad of day I have at work I always say but I get to drive a Corvette home . To the O P, waaa,you sound like a spoiled brat .Sell the car please .I'm sure you'll never wave at another Corvette owner.I do thank you for your service to the US but I think you have a lot of growing up to do .Sell it to someone that appreciates what a amazing car it is .My first and only Vette ever and I wouldn't sell mine even if I was offered more money than I paid .I hope you gain some wisdom when you grow up . |
Originally Posted by wteceraser
(Post 1584742587)
Wow,this thread is cracking me up .I got on this thread almost a year before I bought my Corvette GS convertible .From this forum I learned about brake dust,gas mileage than the narrow body.I learned what every button did and what kind of information it would give you back.I ask for help from the members about certain things I did not know in always got back answers that were helpful and sometimes not so helpful.I'd be willing to bet I know more about the Corvette been a lot of the dealers do.The the people on this forum have many more years of experience with the Vette than I do and I used their knowledge so I would know exactly what I was buying.If I read this thread right you're only 26 years old . You obviously did not do any research before buying your vehicle .I have owned my 2012 Centennial Edition convertible 4 LT for 8 months now and have put on almost 9,000 miles .I Drive it everyday in the rain ,on frosty roads ,and even drove it
in 2 to 3 inches of snow when I brought it home from Michigan.No no matter how bad of day I have at work I always say but I get to drive a Corvette home . To the O P, waaa,you sound like a spoiled brat .Sell the car please .I'm sure you'll never wave at another Corvette owner.I do thank you for your service to the US but I think you have a lot of growing up to do .Sell it to someone that appreciates what a amazing car it is .My first and only Vette ever and I wouldn't sell mine even if I was offered more money than I paid .I hope you gain some wisdom when you grow up . Pretty grown I'd say ;) IMO, this thread is :trainwreck: Bunch a people pig piling on someone who made a mistake :( |
I thought us old guys were smarter than that .My mistake
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Now I just need the original word doc...:D |
Originally Posted by RHMinetti
(Post 1584707470)
To those of you that have responded positively to my original post I sincerely thank you for your input. It is indeed appreciated.
To those of you that have responded negatively, including those of you that have used less than desirable language, please consider not responding at all in the future, certainly not if the response is going to be less than positive; it really serves no useful purpose. Sincerely, Richard H Minetti |
I read your letter
Your major failure is you never discussed this with the Dealer Their job is to educate and help you understand the functionality of your car. The issues you raise are borderline not relevant -Proximity cameras are not relvant in a sports car and add weight; same with electro hard top. -The Rear hatch is not meant to be slammed or pushed down hard; you rest your palm on it and electronic assist closes it -Your black inner hatch pain might have not been prepped right; again dealer has porfessional process to correct (not touch up) -Re: latches, emergency brake, etc....these are personal usage and not mfg defects; again dealer can lube and adjust You need to understand that a sports car is not made for 100% of the public; its made for enthusiasts who understand the size, space, weight, design constraints to produce a car to perform. |
Originally Posted by AmericanVette
(Post 1584740226)
OP complained the emergency brake is on the wrong side. How often is the emergency brake used? Honestly? I don't think I ever used it on my C6.
I use the parking brake more often than the start-stop button. With my choice of manual shift, I set it at every shut-down, release it at every start-up. And, it has to be set for the power convertible top to move, so it is used for each use of the power top going up, or down. I also thought drivers of automatics used their parking brake when stopped on an incline. Maybe it is okay to just let it come to rest against the "P" of the automatic. . |
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Addison d ,I found out also on this forum that if you just put the parking brake to one click ,its not engagde here,you can lower or raise the top while going a slow speed .I do it all the time
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Originally Posted by wteceraser
(Post 1584744317)
Addison d ,I found out also on this forum that if you just put the parking brake to one click ,its not engagde here,you can lower or raise the top while going a slow speed .I do it all the time
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Originally Posted by AddisonD
(Post 1584743641)
I also thought drivers of automatics used their parking brake when stopped on an incline.
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Because I read this thread (and after starting to read this thread felt compelled to read the first thread and the attached letter) I feel I must add my $.02 worth.
Had the OP bought a C6 5 years ago with the same complaints and written a letter to Tadge Juechter in the spirit of suggestions for making a better future Corvette, that would have been fine. But what could Tadge's assistants do with this letter. Most of his complaints have been addressed in the C7. On top of that, the OP never asked Tadge or GM to do anything. How or why should they respond? Then he comes onto this forum and bares his folly to the international online Corvette world and expects what? I live in a small town in Colorado that has a higher than average percentage of senior population. We have a lot of folks over 75 who pull out in front of people and then drive down the road 10-20 mph slower than the speed limit. Now these good folks all think they are safe drivers. One thing that I know for sure is that these people who pull out in front of others and then creep down the road frustrating everyone behind them all lack good judgment. The one thing I know for sure is the OP lacked good judgment in putting out so much private information out on cyber space, let alone a poor major purchase process followed up with a foolish letter in which he didn't ask for anything. :crazy2: |
this thread is AWESOME !!!
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