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BBCorv70 07-11-2013 03:45 PM

I'd find out whether the engine is definitely NOM or not before becoming discouraged. You should be able to tell if the car likely had side pipes from the factory by closely inspecting the rear panel, look for evidence of slots being covered or filled in? It looks like a fairly well optioned car, worth having a look before dismissing.

ddawson 07-11-2013 04:20 PM

Get the VIN too. I was able to contact old owners using the registry and walked away from a few with what they told me.

Keep in mind shipping costs because coast to coast is not cheap.

Also pictures hide so many paint flaws you need to see it in person or pay someone too.

I had a Forum member look at a car for me and said no way. Looked great in the pictures.

dxbcamper 07-11-2013 04:29 PM

Vin
 

Originally Posted by ddawson (Post 1584383099)
Get the VIN too. I was able to contact old owners using the registry and walked away from a few with what they told me.

Keep in mind shipping costs because coast to coast is not cheap.

Also pictures hide so many paint flaws you need to see it in person or pay someone too.

I had a Forum member look at a car for me and said no way. Looked great in the pictures.

The VIN checks I guess: 194379S715090

Seriously, I was so ready to spend the 370 bucks for an inspection. No way I can view the car myself and even if, I am way too inexperienced to find anything suspicious. And naive I guess, because I knew about the missing trim tag and didnt bother too much about it. :withstupid:

Easy Mike 07-11-2013 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by dxbcamper (Post 1584382349)
...nobody knows if the color is original because the trim tag, for some reason, is missing...

Someone knows. They just haven't told you. Ask where the trim tag is and why it was removed? Sounds like a repaint.

Ask for verification the side pipes are factory.

What type of "customs" do you have to pay to get a car from Florida to California?

Good luck.

:thumbs:

ddawson 07-11-2013 04:44 PM

Well look at what Google found.

http://www.e-rods.com/cars/1969_Corv...te_fessler.htm

June, 2005
This work was done prior to my purchase.
Repaint entire car - $4,000.00
Replace all brake linings including rebuild of factory hydraulics - $750.00 Click for photo
Rebuild engine - $3,000.00

October 28th, 2008
Gas tank - $235.00
Fuel Pump - $65.00

October 29th, 2008
Center gauge bezel lens - $14.00
Cushion set cluster gauge - $2.75
Data Plate - $11.95
Chrome license plate frame - $15.00

November 4th, 2008
Rebuild Telescopic/Tilt Steering - Being Rebuilt Completed
Key blanks - $5.00
Ashtray door guides - $7.95
Ashtray - $12.95
Gas pedal - $9.75
Gas Pedal trim - $6.95
Clutch/Brake pedal pads - $13.90
Clutch/brake pedal trim = $13.90
Steering column telescopic lock ring - $29.95
Telescopic lock bolt - $2.00
Seal set heater box - $43.95
Seal set side vent - $29.90
Horn button with emblem - $49.95
Center a/c deflector seal set - $3.95
A/C outlet deflectors - $39.90
Inside rear view mirror - $49.50
Trim Paint - satin black - $8.99
Factory assembly manual - $19.95
Seat bumper pair lower back - $9.75
Seat bumper pair upper back - $22.00

November 08th, 2008
Seat belt warning lens - $5.95
Door ajar warning lens - $7.50
Seat belt warning push button - $11.95
Clock know with screw - $11.95

November 10th, 2008
Steering column support - $75.00
3 bulbs - $4.50

November 11th, 2008
4 - 2556015 Goodyear Eagle GT11's - $550.00
Refinish and repaint factory rally wheels - $75.00
Headlamp valves w/door override - $39.90
Weatherstrip - Left rear pillar - $34.95
Weatherstrip - Righg rear pillar - $34.95
Weatherstrip adhesive - $8.95
Emblems for door handles - $9.95
Turn signal cancelling cam - $41.75

November 13th, 2008
Seal set - side vent - $5.50
Parking brake handle - $89.95
Relay - $12.95
Trim Plate console - $239.95 - Completed
Boot - upper shifter - $29.95 - Click for photo
Heater Control rebuild kit - $79.95 - Click for photo
Console - main shifter - $169.95
Bezel forward fiberoptic - $24.95
Lens fiberoptic upper and lower - $19.95
Screw set for interior - $19.95
Bulbs for interior - $15.00
Handle for hood with wire - $19.90
Boot lower shifter - $27.95
Switch for headlamp - $49.75
Steering Wheel - $149.95
Knob for headlamp switch - $14.95
Sill Plates - $39.90
Sill Plate screws - $3.20
Reinforcement front console - $44.95
Slider for parking brake - $4.95
Knob for shifter - $17.95

November 18th, 2008
Rebuild entire A/C & Heater Control Panel - Click for photo
Replace Emergency Brake Handle and Clean - Click for Photo
Interior light socket and bulb - passenger side - $9.00
Antenna cable with base - $25.95
License plate socket and bulb - $9.50
Console for p/brake $49.95
A/C compressor switch - $11.95
Heater valve & a/c blower switch - $13.95
Heater and a/c defrost valve - $33.00
Heater and blower switch - $19.75
Retainer - $.15

November 19th, 2008
Dash Sockets - $81.00
Dash Bulbs - $15.00
Trip odometer knob - $3.50
Speedometer and Tachometer Lens Gaskets - $19.90
Speedometer and Tachometer Lenses - $39.90
Passenger side mirror bracket - $9.95
Passenger side mirror gasket - $3.95
Carpet inserts guides for front seat belts - $12.95

November 22nd, 2008
3 Dash Sockets - $21.67

November 24th, 2008
Parking Brake Switch - $21.40
Seat Covers - $329.00
Seat Foam - $195.00
Rebuild seats, frame, install new seat coverings and padding - $350.00
Seat back bolt set - $8.95
Seat back pivot bolts - $11.80
Spacers - $3.05

December 3rd, 2008
Retro Radio - $315.00
Battery - AutoZone - $95.00
Battery quick disconnect - $9.95

December 12th, 2008
Dual return spring holly carburetor - $19.90
Rear Center Glove Box Liner - $29.95

February 25th, 2009
Air Filter - $25.00

March 5th, 2009
Install GM OE Valve Covers - $285.00 Click for Photo
Valve cover grommets - $9.50
Install MSD 8572 Tach Drive - $325.00
Install MSD 2 Coil - $50.00
Install MSD 6AL Ignition - $215.00
MSD 8860 cable - $13.49
MSD Ignition Wires - $85.00
Valve cover cadmium bolt set - $8.95
P/brake booster hose - $14.95
Crankcase molded vent hose $19.95
Crankcase vent tube - $10.90

April 13th, 2009
Throttle cable rod - $35.31
Throttle cable rod ( correct for 69 ) - $49.50
Throttle cable support bracket - $35.00
Install cable assembly - $150.00

April 17th, 2009
Interior Sound Proofing and heat shielding - $250.00 Click for Photo

April 25th, 2009
New A/C compressor and line - $550.00
Evacuate and recharge system - $109.95
Install 2lbs R134A freon @$28.95 = $57.90
Low side service valve housing - $23.00
Shrader valves = $17.17

LeMans Pete 07-11-2013 04:52 PM

Good find. The 3956618 is good for a '69 block, and I do not believe they were made after '69. My bet would be that it is the original block, still confirm.

Everything else is long gone.

Note: Under "owner appraisal" its listed as the original block.

dxbcamper 07-11-2013 05:04 PM

Even it was a repaint, why on earth would anyone remove the trim tag?

Customs 6% (minimum) as I need to ship through Holland to Germany. I see I have my old Santa Rosa location in the profile. Changed it, as I now permanently am back in Munich.

The seller does not know where the trim tag is. Oh well....
I have some more or less good undercarriage pics which I will post tomorrow. Looks ok IMO, but then again, what do I know :willy:

dxbcamper 07-11-2013 05:14 PM

OMG, indeed, that is a GREAT find! Thanks for that, and all those pics...oh golly :rock:

Too bad we cannot see if the trim tag was on there 4 years ago...that is how long the current owner has had the car .

I think in this case I think I will in fact go for the inspection and see if I burned 375 dollars for nothing :woohoo:

Alan 71 07-11-2013 06:05 PM

Hi dxbc,
It's the small things that need to be checked and really determine just what a car is.
For instance the engine has an aluminum intake manifold (LT-! ?) on it, that raises the carb and air cleaner enough so the 69 sb hood won't fit. Is that why the bb hood is there.
This may be just fine with some buyers, but should be understood while the cash is still in the buyer's pocket.
Regards,
Alan

Faster Rat 07-11-2013 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by oldalaskaman (Post 1584379427)
sure a bunch of florida vette's ...and other cars coming up for sale...lately

Unlike Alaska, a whole bunch of people live in Florida. :D Maybe their cars are being put on the market because the worldwide economy is improving? Not everybody is desperate to sell their stuff these days. My house is waiting for the market to recover. Some day my car may follow suit.

Roma 07-12-2013 12:34 AM

I like it .:thumbs:
If the paint is ok, no rusted birdage, Vacuum and all things work I would make an offer around 19k and invest the money for an inspection. Tell them what to look for as they are usual not Corvette Specialists. But they make a lot of detailed pics showing all areas.

:eek: Only thing what makes me wonder, in the link above the price was 36k and now 21k, what happens ?

dxbcamper 07-12-2013 01:55 AM

indeed.....
 

Originally Posted by Roma (Post 1584386847)
I like it .:thumbs:
If the paint is ok, no rusted birdage, Vacuum and all things work I would make an offer around 19k and invest the money for an inspection. Tell them what to look for as they are usual not Corvette Specialists. But they make a lot of detailed pics showing all areas.

:eek: Only thing what makes me wonder, in the link above the price was 36k and now 21k, what happens ?

Hi Roma,

that is exactly what I was going to do, and that is the exact figure I was going to offer. Everything works except, if I remember correctly, the wiper doors. Wipers work hi and low.

Well the 36 k was what the previous owner had on his website, perhaps an appraisal value or so. As I mentioned, the current owner purchased the car 4 years ago, I dont think he would accept a 15k cut in price :crazy2:

Any comments regarding Florida cars (humidity, rust etc...)?

ChevyChad 07-12-2013 06:08 AM

Bought my 69 from FL and rust is absolutely minimal. Nothing at all like cars I have seen from say the houston area. I now live in Savannah, GA close to the coast and no problems with rusting here either.

Easy Mike 07-12-2013 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by dxbcamper (Post 1584383448)
...Even it was a repaint, why on earth would anyone remove the trim tag?...

Trim tags were attached after the body was out of the paint shop. They should show no evidence of body color. People sometimes remove them when repainting a car.

You should ask the seller why the tag was removed and - better still - where it is.

:thumbs:

Roma 07-12-2013 12:20 PM

And ifyou read the complete Page

http://www.e-rods.com/cars/1969_Corv..._appraisal.htm

you find that it is a Texas-Car. I would assume best State for NO Rust (beside Las Vegas Area), but bad for paint , thats why he repaints it !

Faster Rat 07-12-2013 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by dxbcamper (Post 1584387172)
Any comments regarding Florida cars (humidity, rust etc...)?

All depends on what the car has been exposed to or protected from over it's 44 years. Freezing temperatures, ice and snow, road salt, ocean air, direct sunlight. I don't think one can make a generalization about where the car has lived. Frame and birdcage rust is the worst thing you can run into...and a real deal-breaker.

PS - I really like '69 Daytona Yellow side exhaust coupes. :thumbs:

dxbcamper 07-14-2013 04:49 AM

Here are some undercarriage pics.....they dont tell much of a story I guess, but perhaps you can sort of tell what needs to be done.....what do you think?

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps86d87638.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0c4cf7b5.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9e5781ec.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...pscf601f10.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3de75784.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps89865828.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps48ef4c74.jpg

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...ps053cb989.jpg

Delta26 07-14-2013 03:46 PM

I'm not a collector and I don't buy a car to collect it. I buy it to drive it and take to shows for other people to be able to admire a piece of American history.

This car looks beautiful to me and I would be proud to have it. It doesn't mean a hill of beans to me if it is not, oooooue, TOTALLY CORRECT. Hell for 19,000 I might get it.

4 speed, pipes, clean engine, nice interior, good undercarriage. The average guy is gonna drool when he sees this. Now, the snooty collector, well, that's a different story.

You want a very nice Vette. This is a very nice Vette.

dxbcamper 07-14-2013 04:05 PM

I wouldn't think twice if I were able to get it for 19k. However, we are still talking 21.5....:woohoo:

Faster Rat 07-14-2013 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by dxbcamper (Post 1584405326)
I wouldn't think twice if I were able to get it for 19k. However, we are still talking 21.5....:woohoo:

The additional $2500 in the price of admission will pale in comparison to what you will end up spending at the C3 concession stand. :D Just make sure you enjoy the movie.


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