Need some ideas
Hi all and Happy 4th of July! I am finally getting everything sorted out on my Pro Flo XT project. It turned out the injectors I had were not the size they were supposed to be so I got a set of remans from FIC. 30 lb. set at 43.5 with vacuum disconnected. I now have a huge hesitation when I stab the throttle, if I just roll in to it it just starts pulling & won't stop but if I just hit it hard, be it rolling or sitting still it just won't go. I just need some things to look for that will cause this. If I set the tps down to where it is supposed to be it is real bad, if I set it up to just over 1 volt is gets better but is not eliminated and the high setting causes it's own problems. Timing is at 10 degrees just what the tune calls for, if I try to advance it a bit more it won't run right at all. If you have any ideas let me hear them.
I should add that I had to open the throttle blade more with the new injectors which makes it hard to set the tps down where it is supposed to be. |
I wonder if the tune tables for accel enrich need to be looked at.
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that's Strange I'm sure the Pro Flow will end up similar to a HSR 10 deg was just a starting point... 12 -16 deg on my previous 89 build... made a huge difference...
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I did some more playing around and I noticed the fuel pressure would either stay the same or even drop a few pounds when I would rev it. I jacked the pressure way up and all the problems went away but I had 70 lbs of pressure. If it is the pump, would I be able to raise the pressure that much? And if it is the regulator how can I be sure?
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Ok it would appear your pump is weak.. your adjustable regulator is doing its job...
Maintaing pressure untill you command more fuel.. 70# would just about double your injector flow! What happens when you pull the vacuum from the regulator? An no if you pulled the regulator you would not have pressure.. |
Thanks, that's what I was thinking but wanted to be sure before I bought the wrong part. Looks like a new Walbro is in order.
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Did the incorrect size injectors have the same hesitation??
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No they did not, this all started with the new injectors.
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Hmmmm.. that is not a good sign... what are the specs on the remans.. & flow chart tested?? What about your tune????
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With my ACCEL dfi management system there are a couple adjustments similar to the throttle squirt of a carburetor. Sounds like you need to find this and increase the acceleration enricbment
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30 lb remans from FIC and a pcmforless tune and another tune from another source, both act the same.
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Can you Data log???
If you where close i would test with my 30# ads super injectors.. You need the complete spec sheet for the injectors and compare your tune constants |
Originally Posted by THE 383 admiral
(Post 1584322843)
Hmmmm.. that is not a good sign... what are the specs on the remans.. & flow chart tested?? What about your tune????
Originally Posted by 383vett
(Post 1584322851)
With my ACCEL dfi management system there are a couple adjustments similar to the throttle squirt of a carburetor. Sounds like you need to find this and increase the acceleration enricbment
When I did have the old injectors in the engine I took it to Bloomington Gold and I had been getting a code 24 for lean then so I raised the pressure to try & compensate but it did no good I still had a check engine light coming on all day. The fact still remains that when I rev the engine the pressure either stays the same or drops a few pounds, if it was in the tune this would not happen would it? |
Originally Posted by THE 383 admiral
(Post 1584322903)
Can you Data log???
If you where close i would test with my 30# ads super injectors.. You need the complete spec sheet for the injectors and compare your tune constants |
You are correct your pressure is manually controlled from the AFPR.. two upgrade tunes & 2 sets of injectors most likely lean. Just for giggles email your tune to check your constants, PE, LV8, accel enrich tables..
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I just went out & put the regulator back on, I set it at 39 lbs. vacuum off, just for the purpose of testing. Vacuum on, 38 lbs. and dropping 1-2 lbs when I rev the engine. No climbing of pressure under load, (revving). It used to climb between 5-10 lbs when I would rev the engine. My neighbors are about ready to lynch me since I am messing around making noise while they are enjoying the holiday so I am done for today.
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You mentioned having trouble adjusting your TPS. One of the accel enrich tables adjusts fuel using delta TPS.
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Fuel pump just like i mentioned first *****Happy 4th*****
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Originally Posted by cumbercr
(Post 1584323164)
You mentioned having trouble adjusting your TPS. One of the accel enrich tables adjusts fuel using delta TPS.
Originally Posted by THE 383 admiral
(Post 1584323181)
Fuel pump just like i mentioned first *****Happy 4th*****
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This is not a fuel pump problem, it is a tune problem. You need more acceleration fuel. The pressure will drop when you rev the engine in the driverway because your intake vacuum goes up. On the road at wot the vacuum will drop and pressure will go up. You already raised pressure to 70the psi, if the pump was shot that would not happen. One other note doubling fuel pressure only raises output 41%.
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