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LS9Drew 06-29-2013 12:05 AM

Driver isn't totally out of the equation since shifting fast is a big part, but it does take most of it out. Which is why I personally like it because it shows who has the faster car, it mostly eliminates the list of excuses involved in dig racing.

Joe_G 06-29-2013 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by LS7 DREW (Post 1584276591)
It just shows who's car is actually faster not who can hook better

Buying horsepower is easy, learning how to drive is more rewarding.

LS9Drew 06-29-2013 12:31 AM

I guess that's why they have events for both

PRE-Z06 06-29-2013 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by LS7 DREW (Post 1584276591)
It just shows who's car is actually faster not who can hook better

Only if the cars are geared the same...depending on the speed at which they start from it can favor one car or another's powerband and it is hard to reel someone in if they get the hit, just like being slow out of the hole.

FSTFRC 06-29-2013 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Joe_G (Post 1584277673)
Buying horsepower is easy, learning how to drive is more rewarding.

:iagree:

LS9Drew 06-29-2013 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by PRE-Z06 (Post 1584280509)
Only if the cars are geared the same...depending on the speed at which they start from it can favor one car or another's powerband and it is hard to reel someone in if they get the hit, just like being slow out of the hole.

Some cars aren't geared for 1/4mile so that can give advantage to the other car as well. I know you 1/4mile guys will never like roll racing your too busy living your life's a 1/4 mile at a time

Joe_G 06-29-2013 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by LS7 DREW (Post 1584280636)
Some cars aren't geared for 1/4mile so that can give advantage to the other car as well. I know you 1/4mile guys will never like roll racing your too busy living your life's a 1/4 mile at a time

:iagree: meanwhile you are granny shiftin, not double clutchin like you should be....:willy::lol:

PRE-Z06 07-01-2013 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by LS7 DREW (Post 1584280636)
Some cars aren't geared for 1/4mile so that can give advantage to the other car as well. I know you 1/4mile guys will never like roll racing your too busy living your life's a 1/4 mile at a time

Haha, I've done plenty of both...roll racing takes less skill sure, but isn't an absolute in determining which car is truly faster is all I was meaning. It's still a point a to b race as drag racing and driver skill/setup can still beat out a more powerful car depending on the race.

Joe_G 07-01-2013 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by PRE-Z06 (Post 1584295444)
Haha, I've done plenty of both...roll racing takes less skill sure, but isn't an absolute in determining which car is truly faster is all I was meaning. It's still a point a to b race as drag racing and driver skill/setup can still beat out a more powerful car depending on the race.

I've not done much of roll, but to me, the winner of the roll is the one who knows his/her car and the opponents car the best and gets to set the race.

Given my 4.10 gears, if you give me the choice of the from when to when, I'll win, as I'll pick a speed that is at torque peak to start and I'll end it at the top of 4th. If I know your car well, I'll start it at the bottom of one of your gears.

So yes, there is some real skill to the roll as well, but the skill IMHO is picking the race to put yourself at an advantage and/or your opponent at a disadvantage.

HOXXOH 07-01-2013 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by PRE-Z06 (Post 1584295444)
Haha, I've done plenty of both...roll racing takes less skill sure, but isn't an absolute in determining which car is truly faster is all I was meaning. It's still a point a to b race as drag racing and driver skill/setup can still beat out a more powerful car depending on the race.

And that's the key point.

In the late '50's I watched Arfons 1200 HP Allison powered Green Monster run 160+ MPH and consistently get beat by a little flathead V8 who never ran much over 110. However, if the race would have been an extra 200 feet, Arfons would have never lost.

I can outrun a locomotive on foot for the first 50 feet and my car is much faster for any distance, but neither has enough power to pull a loaded 100 car train for 10 feet.

It's been said that the thing a 1000 HP Vette has in common with a 400 HP Vette, is a 12 second timeslip.

Joe_G 07-01-2013 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by HOXXOH (Post 1584296364)
And that's the key point.

In the late '50's I watched Arfons 1200 HP Allison powered Green Monster run 160+ MPH and consistently get beat by a little flathead V8 who never ran much over 110. However, if the race would have been an extra 200 feet, Arfons would have never lost.

I can outrun a locomotive on foot for the first 50 feet and my car is much faster for any distance, but neither has enough power to pull a loaded 100 car train for 10 feet.

It's been said that the thing a 1000 HP Vette has in common with a 400 HP Vette, is a 12 second timeslip.

Tom I think you and I just said the same thing in a different fashion.:cheers:

PRE-Z06 07-01-2013 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Joe_G (Post 1584296347)
I've not done much of roll, but to me, the winner of the roll is the one who knows his/her car and the opponents car the best and gets to set the race.

Given my 4.10 gears, if you give me the choice of the from when to when, I'll win, as I'll pick a speed that is at torque peak to start and I'll end it at the top of 4th. If I know your car well, I'll start it at the bottom of one of your gears.

So yes, there is some real skill to the roll as well, but the skill IMHO is picking the race to put yourself at an advantage and/or your opponent at a disadvantage.

Exactly:thumbs:

Devilish34 07-01-2013 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by LS7 DREW (Post 1584280636)
Some cars aren't geared for 1/4mile so that can give advantage to the other car as well. I know you 1/4mile guys will never like roll racing your too busy living your life's a 1/4 mile at a time

Roll Racer .. Whats not to like
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