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croatbob 06-16-2013 11:34 PM

race fuels or octane booster
 
what race fuels or additives are u guys using with 93 octane fuels to make sure to avoid pinging in f/i cars? needs to be sensor n cat converter friendly. sunoco 100 oct has been suggested

1MEANGS 06-16-2013 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by croatbob (Post 1584174369)
what race fuels or additives are u guys using with 93 octane fuels to make sure to avoid pinging in f/i cars? needs to be sensor n cat converter friendly. sunoco 100 oct has been suggested

If your gonna run an octane boost id run Torco, & depending on where your located they sell Sunoco 100 @ the pump in certain stations which is another alternative... I know a lot of Supercharged Vettes that use Torco w/ good luck...

croatbob 06-16-2013 11:50 PM

Torco by the drum or at the pump?

1MEANGS 06-16-2013 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by croatbob (Post 1584174440)
Torco by the drum or at the pump?

Torco is sold by the drum or can, you only run 32oz of it per fix up or a lil more if you like for higher octane!

jon6.0 06-17-2013 12:04 AM

E85 is what I run in mine. Works great if you can get it where you live. At $3.29 per gallon it's cheap for what it is. I only average 15mpg though. But I would rather have the safety of E85 than run 91 octane.

croatbob 06-17-2013 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by 1MEANGS (Post 1584174488)
Torco is sold by the drum or can, you only run 32oz of it per fix up or a lil more if you like for higher octane!

per fix up?

Detoxx03 06-17-2013 12:28 AM

When i'm going to be racing I mix in some Shell URT 105 or Sunoco 98 since they are unleaded and don't have oxygen in them.

Atomic C6 06-17-2013 12:14 PM

93 and one can of Torco per fill up! Never leave home without it:thumbs:

croatbob 06-17-2013 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Atomic C6 (Post 1584177309)
93 and one can of Torco per fill up! Never leave home without it:thumbs:

yeah thats what im leaning towards. cheaper than filling up with sunoco 100 every time. any idea on who sells it cheap bulk? prefer 10 x 32 oz bottles then a 5 gallon drum as i live in a condo n storing fuel is a no no.

White_Lightning 06-17-2013 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by croatbob (Post 1584177446)
yeah thats what im leaning towards. cheaper than filling up with sunoco 100 every time. any idea on who sells it cheap bulk? prefer 10 x 32 oz bottles then a 5 gallon drum as i live in a condo n storing fuel is a no no.

order it direct from Torco USA or go on amazon.

croatbob 06-17-2013 12:50 PM

Cool, not sure if torco sold direct but seen it on eBay n amazon for 27 a pop

Unreal 06-17-2013 12:54 PM

Depends on where you live. They are local so it is easy for me to get some now. Friends stock it at the shop. Other than that, amazon with free shipping is the best bet.

White_Lightning 06-17-2013 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by croatbob (Post 1584177648)
Cool, not sure if torco sold direct but seen it on eBay n amazon for 27 a pop

$27 a pop is expensive.. when i had the F1R on my stock motor i bought a 6 pack @ $21ish per bottle

Tunz_Of_Funz 06-17-2013 01:23 PM

I run race gas in my C6 but was thinking to switch to E85 for the added safety that I hear it provides.

Unreal 06-17-2013 01:33 PM

$115 shipped for 6 bottles is amazon price. That is less than $20 a bottle.

Gabbiani 06-17-2013 01:37 PM

Don't forget water/methanol injection. It has its own list of problems but I don't like giving up mileage or paying high prices for fuel to just cruise on. Only burn meth when in boost so after paying for the kit the costs are very low.

Tunz_Of_Funz 06-17-2013 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Gabbiani (Post 1584178054)
Don't forget water/methanol injection. It has its own list of problems but I don't like giving up mileage or paying high prices for fuel to just cruise on. Only burn meth when in boost so after paying for the kit the costs are very low.

Was thinking of going the meth route as well, not too sure on it though.

Slo-Poc 06-17-2013 01:51 PM

I mix 104 when I plan on spraying the car. I put about 5 gal of 104 and ~7-9 gal of 93

White_Lightning 06-17-2013 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Tunz_Of_Funz (Post 1584178092)
Was thinking of going the meth route as well, not too sure on it though.


it is a good saftey net if setup right.

Originally Posted by Slo-Poc (Post 1584178179)
I mix 104 when I plan on spraying the car. I put about 5 gal of 104 and ~7-9 gal of 93

that's to race car for me:)

i just stop off at the local QT and put in 93 octane.. us single power adder street car guys dont need Race gas :)

croatbob 06-17-2013 02:02 PM

http://compare.ebay.com/like/190494481830?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar
best deal i could find. do they come with some applicator to get it into the tank or u need to pre buy a funnel?

White_Lightning 06-17-2013 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by croatbob (Post 1584178282)
The Best Fuel Additive Octane Booster Torco Accelerator on eBay!

best deal i could find. do they come with some applicator to get it into the tank or u need to pre buy a funnel?

i bought a $1.99 small funnel at my local gas station.

Slo-Poc 06-17-2013 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by White_Lightning (Post 1584178221)
it is a good saftey net if setup right.


that's to race car for me:)

i just stop off at the local QT and put in 93 octane.. us single power adder street car guys dont need Race gas :)

Us stock motor guys gotta keep it in one piece till the summers over :D

black98c5 06-17-2013 02:44 PM

I run 93 with about 5 gal of 100 octain unleaded and also spray VP M1 100% meth. Cheap insurance. :thumbs:

Atomic C6 06-17-2013 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by croatbob (Post 1584177446)
yeah thats what im leaning towards. cheaper than filling up with sunoco 100 every time. any idea on who sells it cheap bulk? prefer 10 x 32 oz bottles then a 5 gallon drum as i live in a condo n storing fuel is a no no.

I get mine in the 5 gal can for $240 works out to $12 a 32 oz can less shipping.

Fourm vendor link http://www.jbsblownc5.net/products.html

I should have mentioned I have a Alky Control Meth Kit as well using VP1 100%.

greerracing 06-17-2013 04:51 PM

I just run 93 octane and a mucho grande amount of meth and i am on 15+ psi.

madmax4499 06-17-2013 11:35 PM

when i race i fill to 1/2 tank, drive to the track and dump in 2 gal of C-16, Cheap insurance, no KR, very small change in AFR. I think i have seen ECS endorse this method.

Corvettinator 06-18-2013 02:33 AM

I just bought some Torco at a local shop and put it in the newly S/C'd GS. Andy at A@A recommends it. $20 a can, but the peace of mind is priceless.

jon6.0 06-18-2013 02:40 AM


Originally Posted by Corvettinator (Post 1584183835)
I just bought some Torco at a local shop and put it in the newly S/C'd GS. Andy at A@A recommends it. $20 a can, but the peace of mind is priceless.

You would think with how Kalifornia is full of hippie tree huggers you would have E85 everywhere. But you don't and I'm going to need a 91 tune before I drive out and visit.

Gabbiani 06-18-2013 09:17 AM

The 5 gallon container does make it a bit more reasonable. I may look into it for at least the hot months... Thanks.

I'll take every bit of help I can. Smaller pulley and stock cam I'm sure the dynamic compression has to be pretty high.

Has anyone done a stand alone fuel system similar to n20 or a meth kit? I know it would be another point of failure but having torco or c16 on demand instead of all the time would be nice.

croatbob 06-18-2013 09:25 AM

On eBay seems the best prices 6 pack of 32oz is 19 n change per dose. If u get the 5 gallon for 285 delivered its 14 n change per dose. Bought the 6 pack for now but I'm sure I won't even do a tank of fuel a month so the 6 packs will prob b more than enough for my application

White_Lightning 06-18-2013 09:29 AM

i personally prefer the 32oz
torco is VERY hazordous.. the less one has to handle it the better.. pop open a 32oz.. pour it in tank with out getting any on you.. throw it away. No having to deal with measuring it out and pouring it over..

Corvettinator 06-18-2013 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by jon6.0 (Post 1584183845)
You would think with how Kalifornia is full of hippie tree huggers you would have E85 everywhere. But you don't and I'm going to need a 91 tune before I drive out and visit.

Yeah, there aren't a lot of stations, one reason I didn't go that route. CA is so F'd up. Probably due to the difficulty in bringing refineries (or anything else) online here. The eco-wackos are against a lot of things, but they are for very little other than wind power.

Of course, creating E85 is much less efficient anyway. You have to grow it and water the corn and harvest it and turn it into fuel, while making poor people pay more for corn-related food products, whereas the earth's heat and pressure has already done most of the work with petroleum.

What we ought to do in the US is all run methanol from our abundance of cheap nat gas. Cheap 110 octane at the pump, anyone? :thumbs: OK, so we'd have to fill up twice as often, but 110, people!

Corvettinator 06-18-2013 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by White_Lightning (Post 1584184916)
i personally prefer the 32oz
torco is VERY hazordous.. the less one has to handle it the better.. pop open a 32oz.. pour it in tank with out getting any on you.. throw it away. No having to deal with measuring it out and pouring it over..

Yeah, I got a waft of it yesterday and I recognized that airplane glue smell. That can't be good. Coincidentally, my face has looked all melty in the mirror ever since. It must have ruined my mirror. :ack:

lt1z 06-18-2013 12:59 PM

100 octane ftw

BADZ 06-19-2013 05:53 PM

I run 93+ 100% meth!! My IATs are 59 deg F


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