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Daekwan06 05-08-2013 12:01 PM

I think you see 3, *possibly 4 models*. Their official names (as listed on the GM website and customer brochure) would be:

Stingray
Stingray Z51
Z06*
ZR1

Paulchristian 05-08-2013 12:37 PM

they are just playing with words. Make no mistake about it, the stingray LT1 is the "base" vette.

Matt26 05-08-2013 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by 1985 Corvette (Post 1583845617)
The only thing with that is Z51 it isn't a total revision as to deviate from the standard Corvette. It's not the total package options such as Z06 and ZR1. I think that's why all the C6 guys with their Z51 badges get so much flak. Mentioning the Z51 option would be an afterthought. I just can't accept Z51 as a stand alone like Z06 or ZR1.

I see what you are saying, but the Z51 on the C6 is a little different from the Z51 on the C7.

Besides the wide body and wider tires (although the C7 Z51 gets larger wheels), the C7 Z51 is effectively the grand sport.

The C6 Z51 badge guys get flak because those emblems are tacky :D

AVETTE 05-08-2013 01:27 PM

yes it is a euphemism for base
 
base corvette

rcallen484 05-08-2013 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by AVETTE (Post 1583846628)
base corvette

Yep, there is a "base" everything. From toothpicks (no mint flavor) to F-22 fighter jets (no depleted uranium armament). I'm thinking that if I was in the market for a luxury sedan that a "base" Rolls would do. For me a "base" Corvette suffices. Would not belittle anyone who wants more or different.

1985 Corvette 05-08-2013 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by lt4obsesses (Post 1583845858)
They could revert to the RPO engine codes, if, the engines are are placed in the same chassis. However, from some of the info coming from the bash about future tire sizes, it seems that there may be a wider body, as the C6 did. If this happens, then it turns it into it's own car thus moniker. I think they are just finding marketing and branding easier and probably more effective by differentiating the cars as a whole package. But "Stingray" markets much better than "base".

I agree. Horsepower spoils people and badging sells. For what it's worth, the "base" has always been a Corvette to me. Anything as a performance option, I always said Corvette ZR-1 or Corvette Z06, not just the RPO. Could be worse....it could be like those few posters who wanted Z06 to just be it's own separate car not even a Corvette.:crazy2:






Originally Posted by Matt26 (Post 1583846294)
I see what you are saying, but the Z51 on the C6 is a little different from the Z51 on the C7.

Besides the wide body and wider tires (although the C7 Z51 gets larger wheels), the C7 Z51 is effectively the grand sport.

The C6 Z51 badge guys get flak because those emblems are tacky :D

Time will tell but I'm betting the magazine guys will be saying, "Our Z51 equipped Stingray" or "Our Stingray with the Z51 option" instead of Stingray Z51 or whatever. And I definitely agree: if the car did not come with badges for whatever you have, DO NOT put them on the car. *shudders at L98/LS1 badges* :D

JoesC5 05-08-2013 02:18 PM

I think that if GM wanted to get rid of the "base" nickname then they should have a name for the base car. They did just that by calling it a Stingray. But then it is necessary to prevent the Stingray from being called a base again. They do that by having each model having a different name.

Just as the 1957 Chevrolet had a 150 and a 210 and a Bel Aire, the Corvette C7 should have a Stingray, a Z51, a Z06 and a ZR1, not a Stingray, then a Stingray Z51, and a Stingray Z06 and a Stingray ZR1. If they are all Stingrays then how do you differentiate a Stingray from the Stingray Z51 or the Stingray Z06 or the Stingray ZR1? By calling it a base Stingray C7. Now were back to square one.

Jawnathin 05-08-2013 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Matt26 (Post 1583846294)
I see what you are saying, but the Z51 on the C6 is a little different from the Z51 on the C7.

Besides the wide body and wider tires (although the C7 Z51 gets larger wheels), the C7 Z51 is effectively the grand sport.

The C6 Z51 badge guys get flak because those emblems are tacky :D

With all due respect, isn't the wider body and wheels what makes a GS a GS and not a Z51?

C6 Z51s also had different gearing, larger brakes, revised suspenion, and a few other minor performance enhancements. Pretty much the same as the C7, though that gets a dry sump now.

I guess I just don't follow that Z51 on C6 is different from Z51 on a C7.

And yeah, I'm not a fan of those Z51 badges, they are a bit tacky.

HurricaneRN 05-08-2013 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by JoesC5 (Post 1583847053)
the Corvette C7 should have a Stingray, a Z51, a Z06 and a ZR1, not a Stingray, then a Stingray Z51, and a Stingray Z06 and a Stingray ZR1. If they are all Stingrays then how do you differentiate a Stingray from the Stingray Z51 or the Stingray Z06 or the Stingray ZR1? .

:iagree:

C7envy 05-08-2013 03:30 PM

In a short answer yes it is.

They felt bad for those who could only afford the base corvette to feel like they are buying a base POS which is 50k when compared to a zr1 version. So they called it stingray so that people feel better about buying a base car. Go look at the interview with jay leno, this is exactly how it was explained for why they called it a stingray.

Kind of like porsche, there is no "base" porsche. But the entry level is the boxter I believe.

RC000E 05-10-2013 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by daixloxbmw
Be proud of what you own, even if it is a base model. For the record, I currently own a BMW 135i, which many would consider the base BMW but I love this car, it is a ton of fun to drive and I am very proud of my base BMW, even after receiving a ton of crap from family and friends about my "downgrade" from my previous 335i.

Sh*t man...that 135i is on a lot of radars out there. That is a hell of a package for the money. Guys are getting to 400hp with mild mods. I am already seeing them under 25k. It damn well may be my next modded daily.

daixloxbmw 05-10-2013 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by RC000E (Post 1583861840)
Sh*t man...that 135i is on a lot of radars out there. That is a hell of a package for the money. Guys are getting to 400hp with mild mods. I am already seeing them under 25k. It damn well may be my next modded daily.

Shhhh... let's keep that between us. On the exterior, my 135i looks completely stock and most people seem to think my baby BMW is only a 4 cylinder and has FWD hahaha! Needless to say, I have caught a few local V8 Mustangs and Camaros by surprise. Both my 135i and my previous 335i are tuned and easily made 410hp/450tq.

Finally, I have been a long time member of e90post and 1addicts, haven't I seen you in those forums before?

JudgeNjury 05-10-2013 07:47 AM

Yes ..just as Ferrari is just a fancy name for car

Sneed 05-10-2013 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by rcallen484 (Post 1583846828)
Yep, there is a "base" everything.

Not if you consider some products to be a variation of the original.

Coca-Cola has Diet Coke, Vanilla Coke, Coke Zero, etc., but when you want the original, you don't ask for "base" Coke.

A Corvette with RPO Z51 is still a Corvette.

ArcticC7 05-10-2013 01:53 PM

FYI Z-51 is an option not a stand alone model. Even though many would like to think it is it's not.

gthal 05-10-2013 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Torch2013C6 (Post 1583865229)
FYI Z-51 is an option not a stand alone model. Even though many would like to think it is it's not.

What's your point? No different than the GS for the C6. Base car with upgraded components.

Daekwan06 05-10-2013 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by gthal (Post 1583866251)
What's your point? No different than the GS for the C6. Base car with upgraded components.

Yep. A GS is a base C6, that has added wide body panels, wider wheels & tires and beefed up brakes. Those 4 items are the difference between a base & GS. We can argue semantics all day. But a GS is simply a base C6 with a more options added.

I see the Z06 & ZR1 as a little different. Mainly because the engine is different, the frame aluminum and many exotic materials were used in the process. I can turn a base C6 into a GS pretty easily.. in fact many people on this forum have created their widebody C6 from a base car. But even if I tried my damndest.. I still cannot turn a base C6 into a Z06 or ZR1.

Caddylac10 05-10-2013 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by Torch2013C6 (Post 1583840370)
Since pricing is equal to the current base Corvette im guessing it is.

Huh?


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