C7 redesign possible?
 

There are a few folks on here that have climbed to the top of the mountain and are yelling as loud as they can, for all to hear, that the Corvette design team missed the mark with the C7

The Question is: Does anyone really think the constant complaining on this forum will result in an actual change in design within the next couple of years?

Seriously?:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Sorry to burst your bubble. This car is a massive success. Their not changing a thing. I've called around the country to discuss prices with the dealers that have allocations. They are all booked out or close to it. I think team Corvette hit a grand slam with this car. Unbelievably beautiful.

It is not my bubble. I think the car is great, but there a several folks that are picking apart one thing or another. I sold my C5 with plans on getting a C7

My point is the constant complaining serves no real purpose. I don't think there is any chance GM will change anything on the C7. It is time for the folks that don't like it to move along and find something they like.

anything is possible

@ skank, I'm just curious how you know the car is a "massive success"? Just because hundreds of cars are ordered doesn't tell a thing, just wondering where you are getting your info from?

Let me be the first to post this prediction about this thread.

:trainwreck:

Lots of orders already...more than you got.

@ OX, what the heck are you talking about? And are you answering for skank?

Simply pointing out the flaw in your logic. You have nothing upon which to base any idea that it isn't or won't be a success.

BTW, whats with the sudden addition of an "@" every time you write?:rofl:

And as I asked skank to provide the info that states it will. Seeing how you chimed in why don't you provide it, and no preorders do not account for success!! He used the term "massive success", and what data is that based on sir?

it'll never happen

What do you have that says otherwise? Certainly any early order activity is a sign of success. Maybe you think deposits and orders are a sign of the failure you seem to long for?

The C7 is a big hit and GM has yet to deliver a single unit to an end user. Rave reviews from the auto press abound. Enthusiats are lining up for it.

It is abundantly clear and painfully obvious that a few recent C6 purchasers feel the need to be the guy foolishly screaming on top of the mountain. These guys think they can preserve the cash value of their respective C6 models by bashing the C7 like butt-hurt children. They just don't seem to understand that all their bitching and fussing won't do a thing other than to display their insecurity about the new models effect on C6 values.

Embrace the C7 as it is the future, a bright one indeed.

Yes. They will make the tail lights even more like the Camaro because they are so popular. :)

Actually, most cars go through a facelift after 3-4 years to keep them fresh looking.

GM is already smiling all the way to the bank with the C7. They know they have just turned the corner and kept the Corvette alive another 5 years.

Where do you get from my initial statement I said it would not be a success? I just asked for some validity and as stated deposits and orders does not define success! the Angels and dodgers went out and spent a ton of money a la as the Yankees would, does that mean they will win the World Series? Insert buzzer noise here....NOT!

Why do you always have to make everything a controversy, you wreck more threads on this board than anyone! I asked the man a simple question, one that he nor you can answer with certainty.

Using this forum as a litmus test is a very flawed way to predict the success/failure of this car.

While this forum is among, if not the largest Corvette dedicated internet forum, just in number of members alone, it is still a very small representation of Corvette enthusiasts. Then consider that many of the members here stick pretty much to their own generations forum, and may have never looked at, much less posted in the C7 section.

Then there are the many Corvette owners that just have no interest in internet forums.

Then consider those "other car" drivers out there that may be all over this car when it's available, that have no idea this forum exists.

So this section represents, from the number of usual posters I see, a very small pool of this forums members, thus a miniscule representation of the sports car world at large. Now let's combine that with polls, being what they are, here recently where about 85% of the regulars in this section, approve of the car. I really only see a very few people posting very often how they truly dislike the car.

Anyway, just my observation...on with the ensuing train wreck.:D

You are the one making it a controversy. I simply added my thoughts to your question. Are you trying to say you've never done that?:rofl:

Dumbest poll ever.

Where do you get the idea that anyone here is obligated to provide you with "validity" or any other facts and figures. Do your own homework, might reduce the amount of time you have to bash the C7.

Only because it's an attempt to drum up yet another thread for the minority to shout out loud again.

The people that don't like this car are in the vast minority and most of them I predict are going to have a "change of heart", except of course the ones who can't afford it anyway or who just bought a recent model C6 because of the heavily discounted blue light specials on them. And the majority of those folks will probably end up with a C7 in a few years.

I wouldn't call it a "redesign", but it's very likely there could be some major tweaks made.

I am not a C7 hater or lover. It is what it is, but one thing to remember, all the rave reviews on the C7 from the general public and more importantly the auto publications have been on design only. The final numbers have not been released yet as to price, horsepower, torque and performance. The publications have not gotten their hands on one yet to put it through its paces, so I am still waiting to see how it comes out in the wash.

I hope it is a success as many believe it will be, but until then I will sit back and wait.

As for the poll question, it may see some redesign, but it most likely as was with the C5 and C6 be very minor. A major redesign will not happen. If for some reason after the first initial release to all those that placed or will be placing orders are dome and buying should fall off I don't think GM would do anything radical to this design. After all the roadster will be out early next year and then we can expect a high performance version. If sales are lagging behind projected sales, I would think GM would look at what went wrong and then start on a new design for a C8.

Hey DRjerkoff, show me in any one of my posts on this thread where I bash the C7! Recess must be over by now so get back to class and work on your penmanship.

:iagree: and, IBTL. GM won't change anything major unless it does not do well. That said, a rear end fix is cosmetic and they have done that before without prompting, and they may do it anyway to differentiate the hi-po models from the base cars if they are getting flak, which they are. So that means we need to keep the pressure on about it for at least another 24 months. Sorry whiners, ya better get comfy with the "haters".

Ox is an intelligent guy. No denying that. And feverish about Corvettes. What you don't understand is that a lot of people really don't bother to argue with him any longer because "he's always right".

It's easy to see your point and question.

A large amount of (pre)orders on a newly-designed vehicle indicates a positive initial reaction but to go so far as to use that as a basis to proclaim the new design is a "massive success"... a bit of a stretch and if discussed under the rules of HS or college debating would certainly be rebutted easily. Of course, we don't use those kind of rules here. Here, debating is based largely on emotion and hearsay (and a contest of who can outlast whom the longest replying time after time after time).

Generally, history will prove whether or not a vehicle is a "massive success". It generally takes some time to know for certain. For example, are these early adopters largely just the typical participation of people who we see routinely buying "the latest thing"? Are there a lot of well-to-do people who want the first model for their collection? We really don't know.

But when the car has been out on the road a while--and I don't really know what a while is (a year or two?)--we will have a pretty good idea of what kind of a success it is. We will have an idea by how much off MSRP the new models sell for, how well the (nearly completely) new design operates without problems, how many of the new young targeted population participate, and so on.

So, it's easy to see your point. Well, for me, anyway. With so little to go on, it's too early to declare--as if it's infallible--that the new Corvette is a massive success based on some initial orders. I daresay you will find it difficult to get those you question, however, to recapitulate and admit "massive success" was, perhaps, a bit excessive in description. ;)