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Red08 03-07-2013 05:12 PM

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 info
 
Since I will be getting new tires soon for my 08 base coupe, I contacted Michelin about availability timing and sizes. The new Pilot Sport A/S 3 will not be available until July, and the sizes that I need (285/35-19 rears and 245/40-18 fronts) will not be available until at least the 4th quarter of this year.

Looks like I will be getting new Firehawk Wide Ovals next month!

C6Whatever 03-07-2013 06:47 PM

That is exactly what I had to do today. I was interested in the new Michelins also but couldn't wait. My first Firestones so we will see how I like them.

Lisa

c54u 03-07-2013 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Red08 (Post 1583303997)
Since I will be getting new tires soon for my 08 base coupe, I contacted Michelin about availability timing and sizes. The new Pilot Sport A/S 3 will not be available until July, and the sizes that I need (285/35-19 rears and 245/40-18 fronts) will not be available until at least the 4th quarter of this year.

Looks like I will be getting new Firehawk Wide Ovals next month!

Where did you read that your sizes will not be available until 4th quarter?

I want to get a set of these.

:cheers:

Red08 03-07-2013 07:58 PM

I contacted Michelin Customer Care. They told me. Not what I wanted to hear, but....

whiteboy 03-07-2013 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Red08 (Post 1583305500)
I contacted Michelin Customer Care. They told me. Not what I wanted to hear, but....

The current Michelin Pilot Sport AS is an excellant tire. The difference in the current tire and the new one is mostly propaganda to sell more tires. Michelin Pilot Sport has had an excellant tire for Corvette fitment for years.

laconiajack 03-07-2013 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by whiteboy (Post 1583306181)
The current Michelin Pilot Sport AS is an excellant tire. The difference in the current tire and the new one is mostly propaganda to sell more tires. Michelin Pilot Sport has had an excellant tire for Corvette fitment for years.

:iagree: Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus ZP (Zero Pressure) are ultra high performance all-season run-flat high speed tires that enhance all-weather performance, wet grip and tread wear along with year-around traction, including in light snow. The tire features three different tread compounds molded side-by-side, and three different tread designs to communicate road feel, reduce noise on dry roads, sharpen steering response and dry road handling, resist hydroplaning and enhance wet traction. What do Firestone Wide Ovals have that even begin to approach this advanced technology?

at7000ft 03-07-2013 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by Red08 (Post 1583303997)
Since I will be getting new tires soon for my 08 base coupe, I contacted Michelin about availability timing and sizes. The new Pilot Sport A/S 3 will not be available until July, and the sizes that I need (285/35-19 rears and 245/40-18 fronts) will not be available until at least the 4th quarter of this year.

Looks like I will be getting new Firehawk Wide Ovals next month!

With only 2/32 left on my oem GYs looks like I will have to 'settle' for the SP Plus A/Ss also.

at7000ft 03-07-2013 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by Red08 (Post 1583303997)
Since I will be getting new tires soon for my 08 base coupe, I contacted Michelin about availability timing and sizes. The new Pilot Sport A/S 3 will not be available until July, and the sizes that I need (285/35-19 rears and 245/40-18 fronts) will not be available until at least the 4th quarter of this year.

Looks like I will be getting new Firehawk Wide Ovals next month!

Does anyone know if these will be run flats?

GARYFINN 03-08-2013 09:15 AM

Those people that buy the Firestone's will not be dissapointed.

ben dover 03-08-2013 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by GARYFINN (Post 1583309104)
Those people that buy the Firestone's will not be dissapointed.

^This.

cclive 03-08-2013 11:48 AM

I think the Firestones are very good tires...the dealbreaker for me is that they say "DO NOT REPAIR TIRE" on the sidewall.:thumbs:

GARYFINN 03-08-2013 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by cclive (Post 1583310294)
I think the Firestones are very good tires...the dealbreaker for me is that they say "DO NOT REPAIR TIRE" on the sidewall.:thumbs:

Only if the sidewall is punctured

Gearhead Jim 03-08-2013 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by cclive (Post 1583310294)
I think the Firestones are very good tires...the dealbreaker for me is that they say "DO NOT REPAIR TIRE" on the sidewall.:thumbs:


Originally Posted by GARYFINN (Post 1583310500)
Only if the sidewall is punctured

Unfortunately, not.

There has been a lot of discussion here about that subject, so about 9 months ago I phoned Firestone and asked the question. The person on the phone wasn't sure but put me on hold for a while for research.

The official answer was that the Firestone runflats in my size (base C6, I didn't ask about others) are not permitted to be repaired under any circumstances. Even if you get a small nail in the middle of the tread that makes the tire go flat in your garage overnight; and you remove the wheel and take it in to the shop so it's never driven flat; no repair permitted.

I think that's silly, just lawyers run amok. But that's the official position and any shop that does repair one, has a big liability exposure.

However, a number of people have reported getting one repaired with no problem, so it's something of a crap shoot.

Since we take very long road trips in our C6, I want the greatest possible chance of being able to repair a tire instead of spending the $$$ and waiting for a new tire to be shipped to Nowhere, Oklahoma. So we will stay with Michelins; no guarantee of being able to repair but the odds go up. People who use their cars locally, and/or buy the Road Hazard policy, might be well served by the Firestones.

cclive 03-08-2013 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by GARYFINN (Post 1583310500)
Only if the sidewall is punctured

It doesn't say that though...it just says "DO NOT REPAIR TIRE". No tire should be repaired if the sidewall is punctured and no responsible tire store will do it....but I'm not aware of any other tire that says "DO NOT REPAIR TIRE" on the sidewall. I agree with Jim above.:thumbs:

phileaglesfan 03-08-2013 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by cclive (Post 1583310886)
It doesn't say that though...it just says "DO NOT REPAIR TIRE". No tire should be repaired if the sidewall is punctured and no responsible tire store will do it....but I'm not aware of any other tire that says "DO NOT REPAIR TIRE" on the sidewall. I agree with Jim above.:thumbs:

:iagree: That is a major con for the Firestones. A/S ZP is a great tire if you do regular cruising, not that great for max dry grip though.

peter pan 03-08-2013 01:52 PM

I hope they also will make them for the GS/Z06 sizes as I run those on my base coupe:rock:

GARYFINN 03-08-2013 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Gearhead Jim (Post 1583310648)
However, a number of people have reported getting one repaired with no problem, so it's something of a crap shoot.

Exactly !! The Firestone shop I had mine installed at said they would repair a tire and they did.

c1vettes 03-09-2013 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by at7000ft (Post 1583307299)
With only 2/32 left on my oem GYs looks like I will have to 'settle' for the SP Plus A/Ss also.

Settle... Your kidding me!:ack:

Settle is like having to take the last kid for a pickup game or
maybe having to ask the last girl to dance at 5th grade dance
class.:D

Mich AS Rf SP Plus is definitely not a tire one would refer as a tire
to have to settle on. They are so much quieter than the GY'S. Ride
better, hold the road better wet or dry.

A friend put a non RF major brand on his Z06 about the same
time as I put these on. He has about 8k on and you can see wear.
He was looking at my set the other day with around the same miles
and stated he can't see any wear.:cheers:

at7000ft 03-10-2013 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by c1vettes (Post 1583322437)
Settle... Your kidding me!:ack:

Settle is like having to take the last kid for a pickup game or
maybe having to ask the last girl to dance at 5th grade dance
class.:D

Mich AS Rf SP Plus is definitely not a tire one would refer as a tire
to have to settle on. They are so much quieter than the GY'S. Ride
better, hold the road better wet or dry.

A friend put a non RF major brand on his Z06 about the same
time as I put these on. He has about 8k on and you can see wear.
He was looking at my set the other day with around the same miles
and stated he can't see any wear.:cheers:

I am sure you are correct about the Mich A/S Plus, and Luke at TireRack agrees also. He wasn't sure if the Mich A/S 3s in our sizes will even be available this year plus they may not offer a runflat version (assuming you prefer rfs).

BTW, Luke agrees that the GY runflats spoiled many people's opinion of RFs, said the Mich RFs are very different.

nitroman1 03-11-2013 02:54 PM

Mich A/S Plus ZP is the way to roll...great for daily drivers!

Red08 03-11-2013 04:37 PM

I got an answer today for another question I asked the Michelin folks. They told me that the new Pilot Sport A/S 3, when it does come out, will not be available as a rft.

Snowwolfe 03-11-2013 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by cclive (Post 1583310886)
It doesn't say that though...it just says "DO NOT REPAIR TIRE". No tire should be repaired if the sidewall is punctured and no responsible tire store will do it....but I'm not aware of any other tire that says "DO NOT REPAIR TIRE" on the sidewall. I agree with Jim above.:thumbs:

Sounds like Firestone is trying to increase their tire sales by saying these tires can not be repaired.
Unless one of you rubber experts can tell us why they should not be repaired?

at7000ft 03-11-2013 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Red08 (Post 1583336254)
I got an answer today for another question I asked the Michelin folks. They told me that the new Pilot Sport A/S 3, when it does come out, will not be available as a rft.

Are they going to stop making the A/S Plus RFs when the 3s come out?

FlyerVette 03-11-2013 05:22 PM

It would seem obvious to me if they are going to making them for the C7 they are going to have to have them in runflats.....

v1 rot8 03-11-2013 05:41 PM

wanting to learn what I can

GARYFINN 03-11-2013 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by snowwolfe (Post 1583336300)
Sounds like Firestone is trying to increase their tire sales by saying these tires can not be repaired.
Unless one of you rubber experts can tell us why they should not be repaired?

My firestone dealer told me that the would repair a tire that had a foreign object in it as long as the sidewall wasn't punctured.They will not repair (as well as any other brand) a tire that has been run with zero pressure.Thats what the dealer said it meant! that they wouldn't repair one that has been run with ZERO pressure for any significant amount of time.

at7000ft 03-11-2013 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by FlyerVette (Post 1583336614)
It would seem obvious to me if they are going to making them for the C7 they are going to have to have them in runflats.....

Don't think they are making the A/S for the C7. They come with the summer tires.

FlyerVette 03-11-2013 06:03 PM

Oops, I didn't think thru the fact of A/S on the new C7. Lets just hope they continue to make the A/S runflats for us...

laconiajack 03-11-2013 06:15 PM

Sounds to me like it is a non-run-flat version of the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus ZP (zero-pressure run-flat) which means it will be a really great tire, just not for the Corvette with its two different size tires and no spare, unless, of course your willing to give up the safety and convenience of the miracle tires called run-flats. :sadangel:

laconiajack 03-11-2013 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by at7000ft (Post 1583336911)
Don't think they are making the A/S for the C7. They come with the summer tires.

The C7 has narrower tires than the base C6 which means all-season should be available for the C7 since they are available for the Coupe and Convertible. No sport cars come from the factory with all-season tires, they always come with summer tires that give impressive results when tested on dry, smooth, warm test tracks by the automotive magazine reviewers. But unless your in the tiny minority of sport car owners who actually track their car, you will want all-seasons if you drive year around, or even in the Fall and Spring in the snow belt.

Stockcar Axeman 03-11-2013 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by whiteboy (Post 1583306181)
The current Michelin Pilot Sport AS is an excellant tire. The difference in the current tire and the new one is mostly propaganda to sell more tires. Michelin Pilot Sport has had an excellant tire for Corvette fitment for years.


:iagree:

Mad*Max 03-11-2013 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by GARYFINN (Post 1583309104)
Those people that buy the Firestone's will not be dissapointed.

:yesnod:I just bought my second set this weekend

LSD 2005 03-11-2013 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by GARYFINN (Post 1583311450)
Exactly !! The Firestone shop I had mine installed at said they would repair a tire and they did.

:iagree:I had nail pucture the right rear tire and the local Firestone dealer (not the place I bought the tire from) repaired the tire for free. The patch held up until all 4 tires were replaced with Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus ZP. Overall, I was very satisfied with the Firestones.:thumbs:

Dif 03-11-2013 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Red08 (Post 1583336254)
I got an answer today for another question I asked the Michelin folks. They told me that the new Pilot Sport A/S 3, when it does come out, will not be available as a rft.

Didn't realize it wouldn't be a RF :(
The Michelin website shows the A/S 3 and says nothing about it being a RF.
Hard to gather any real info from their site though except them saying it's great and all size fitment info will be released on May 1st.
I must be missing something because this tire hasn't come out yet and there's 2 reviews on it already :confused2:

http://www.michelinman.com/tire-sele..._reviews_panel

Mad*Max 03-11-2013 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by cclive (Post 1583310886)
It doesn't say that though...it just says "DO NOT REPAIR TIRE". No tire should be repaired if the sidewall is punctured and no responsible tire store will do it....but I'm not aware of any other tire that says "DO NOT REPAIR TIRE" on the sidewall. I agree with Jim above.:thumbs:

the set that I just replaced had the rear repaired 3 years ago and since then the car has been "driven" without any issues - I had a nail in the tire and pressure probably didn't go below 20-22 psi

Gearhead Jim 03-11-2013 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by laconiajack (Post 1583337195)
The C7 has narrower tires than the base C6 which means all-season should be available for the C7 since they are available for the Coupe and Convertible. No sport cars come from the factory with all-season tires, they always come with summer tires that give impressive results when tested on dry, smooth, warm test tracks by the automotive magazine reviewers. But unless your in the tiny minority of sport car owners who actually track their car, you will want all-seasons if you drive year around, or even in the Fall and Spring in the snow belt.

My understanding is that the base C7 (Stingray) will have the same size tires as the base C6.
Is that what you meant to say?

C7 Z51 will be different.

Dif 03-11-2013 09:17 PM

I've seen some say the C7 tires are skinnier than the C6, But, where are they getting the info ?
I know they're skinnier ;) than the Z06 and GS but from everything I see, the C7 wheels and tires ( except for Z51 ) are/going to be the same as the C6.

The tire sizes for the 2014 Corvette models are:

P245/40ZR18 (93Y) SL Michelin® Pilot® Super Sport® ZP
P285/35ZR19 (99Y) SL Michelin® Pilot® Super Sport® ZP

2014 Chevrolet Corvette with Z51 Performance Package


P245/35ZR19 (89Y) SL Michelin® Pilot® Super Sport® ZP
P285/30ZR20 (95Y) SL Michelin® Pilot® Super Sport® ZP

I doubt the C7 will have wheels/tires skinnier than the base C6 :crazy:
Anyone have any real info ?

PS: Gearhead Jim :lol: you beat me to it :cheers:


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