Your a funny guy. Are you a comedian? I JUST HIT THE LOTTO IN NY LAST NIGHT. Says every one in my neighborhood so i must be rich! Says every one? Thats your proof? Not one shred of real evidence or track testing? Your some sorry excuse for even talking about a car, even a pinto. BECAUSE EVERY SAYS SO LOL.

He said "naturally aspirated".....as if that should matter.

You sound like the typical butthurt C6 owner. The proof is out there in GM statements, releases, brochures regarding technology, materials, engineering, etc. What? No track times, well just wait. I was talking about the construction, materials, technology, not having a interior designed by Fisher-Price. For whatever reason, some of you think GM actually reverse engineered their flagship car ?

Apparently a real conversation at GM headquarters.

Engineer 1: "So we should probably NOT make this better than the outgoing generation Corvette"

Engineer 2: "Okay, sounds good to me."

Last time I checked, 59k is not even close to "very low 50's" so nice try there. And you're also comparing a sports car to two muscles cars, and if you want the GT500 with a track pack and other goodies it's WELL into the 60's. Challenger is also classified as a small truck, or at least it should be. Lol

"The proof is out there in GM statements, releases, brochures regarding technology, materials, engineering, etc."

Uhm, WTF? You may want to look up the definition of PROOF.

Apparently Challenger fits the bill then:D I am actually surprised how much hp this thing puts out

Not bad, just skeptical and inquistive. Good thing there is no inquisition around anymore, with people like, wow.:willy:

I said naturally aspirated.

You see thats where you and every other typical c7 lover think your going to knock us C6 OWNERS when your so far from the truth. You see the fact is I happen to love my '12 COUPE and if the C7 did appeal to me that much (which it doesn't) and it was a great car than i would go and just buy one. YOU SEE MONEY IS NOT A ISSUE FOR ME SO I CANNOT BE A BUTTHURT C6 OWNER. I AM IN A WIN WIN SITUATION.!

The C5 was slower than the C4 Zr-1 and it was a driver's race with the LT4. The C6 was slower than the C5z in 2005. Why would you expect history to change?

It was a joke! See thread- wrecked C7 in AZ.

They think that because they have to get mom and dad to co-sign their loan, everyone does.

This thread had been hijacked so many times, I'm not sure I should post to the original comment of the OP. However, when you look at the 1/4 mile ETs of the bone stock LS3 C6s (our C6 challenge list) and add 20 hp from the factory as in the C7, wouldn't we be realistically looking at 11.5 ETs or better @ 120 or so? I think that would match most if not all of the GT500s realistic ETs. Very few production cars would be able to touch it.

I believe there will be another 75 horses for the Z06/7 to 525 or better and another bump in a ZR1 replacement to 650 or so. I don't see much to complain about in any of these estimates???

It is actually only FOURTEEN hp difference since C7 comes stock with supposedly equivalent of the current NPP. And you are a dreamer not a realist expecting these figures.

I didn't knock any C6 owner at all. Nice rant though, somebody needs a hug.. or a cookie. :D

"You sound like the typical butthurt C6 owner".

Do you deny that the above quote was made by you?

At this point, I suspect anyone can be a dreamer, but if a bone stock C6 can run 11.7s, why is it not realistic to believe that the C7 can't run faster?? Our C6 1/4 mile challenge lists several sub 12 second bone stock ET records and a reasonably performance savvy person would expect more HP, more torque, same weight to run faster. But the assumption here is that most posters are "performance savvy".

What part of "estimated" folks don't understand?

I think it is the middle part. The ima...

Given the publicly displayed lack of reading comprehension it is clear that the effort GM's technical writing group puts into the owner's manual is going to be wasted on a lot of people. :toetap:

I expect that actual buyers are going to display more intelligence but observation would lead one to believe that for advertising purposes GM would have been better off designing and tuning this engine purely for peak horsepower instead of providing a very nice and usable change in the torque curve.