C7 and C6 issue
I saved a bunch of the C7 photos on my hard drive in various colours and angles, and browse through them sometimes to help decide which colour and package I should get.
Just now out of curiosity I went through my old C6 folder with pics of different C6's in various colours and angles and thought - wow the C6 is starting to look dated already. It doesn't look old but just not that great anymore. What do you guys think? |
I've already stated in several threads that I thought the C7 has made the C6 look dated (and I own a C6). I have my deposit down with a forum dealer to order my C7 when GM starts taking orders. I'll be selling my C6.
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The C6 does look dated compared to the C7, but is still good looking.
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Originally Posted by millpond
(Post 1583068959)
The C6 does look dated compared to the C7, but is still good looking.
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Hasn't this topic been beaten to death in a million other threads already? It's being posted in the C7 section so naturally most people here are going to say the C6 looks dated. Post the same topic in the C6 section and most there will say it still looks a lot better than the C7.
Personally, I don't own a C6 so I have no horse in this race, but I don't think the Z06/ZR1/GS widebody versions look dated at all. I've never been a big fan of the base car so I'm not going to say it still looks great, but I honestly think the widebody C6 is a better looking design than what I've seen of the C7 so far and it's mainly due to the horrendous rear end. :ack: |
Always needing the latest and greatest is a fruitless endeavor.
I will enjoy the C6 just as much as before the introduction of the C7. At leas till my harmonic balancer takes a wobble for the worse. |
Oh please.The C6 looks no more dated then last years Ferrari.I would even venture to say It's better looking in many ways.The C7,with all it's sharp angles will be dated much quicker then it's older brother.I like all Vettes so I'm not bashing the C7 here,but please,it's not the be all and end all in the looks department.It's borderline ugly.
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Funny. a negative comment on the C6 that has been stated before and the post goes on.
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Originally Posted by BMadden
(Post 1583069041)
Hasn't this topic been beaten to death in a million other threads already? It's being posted in the C7 section so naturally most people here are going to say the C6 looks dated. Post the same topic in the C6 section and most there will say it still looks a lot better than the C7.Personally, I don't own a C6 so I have no horse in this race, but I don't think the Z06/ZR1/GS widebody versions look dated at all. I've never been a big fan of the base car so I'm not going to say it still looks great, but I honestly think the widebody C6 is a better looking design than what I've seen of the C7 so far and it's mainly due to the horrendous rear end. :ack:
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Dated! How do you think I feel with my ancient C5Z06? I bought it last year,because I was tired of waiting for the C7. C6 was out of the question since I thought the C5Z06 was a better looking car:hide: Yes I can afford either car, but it looks like I will be adding the C7 after the bugs are worked out. No flames Guy's cause I would take a C6Z06 if the damn C7 did'nt look so awesome in that cyber gray with aftermarket rims:rock:
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I don't believe for one second that the C7 forum is unbiased. I would say the majority of people posting here are doing so because they like the C7 and/or will be buying one. Those individuals are completely biased in favor of the C7 and therefore your conclusion is far from correct.
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Originally Posted by Achmed
(Post 1583068898)
I saved a bunch of the C7 photos on my hard drive in various colours and angles, and browse through them sometimes to help decide which colour and package I should get.
Just now out of curiosity I went through my old C6 folder with pics of different C6's in various colours and angles and thought - wow the C6 is starting to look dated already. It doesn't look old but just not that great anymore. What do you guys think? |
Originally Posted by Achmed
(Post 1583068898)
I saved a bunch of the C7 photos on my hard drive in various colours and angles, and browse through them sometimes to help decide which colour and package I should get.
Just now out of curiosity I went through my old C6 folder with pics of different C6's in various colours and angles and thought - wow the C6 is starting to look dated already. It doesn't look old but just not that great anymore. What do you guys think? |
However I think dated is a relative term. Yes, the ferrari 360 modena looks dated compared to the 458 italia. the Modena is all rounded and smooth. The 458 and the f12 are much edgier like the c7. But, and this is a big but. When I see a modena in traffic, it still looks damn good, like the c5 and c6 in all their forms. I always look at them as they go by. Doesnt everyone here?
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Originally Posted by alanhang
(Post 1583069533)
However I think dated is a relative term. Yes, the ferrari 360 modena looks dated compared to the 458 italia. the Modena is all rounded and smooth. The 458 and the f12 are much edgier like the c7. But, and this is a big but. When I see a modena in traffic, it still looks damn good, like the c5 and c6 in all their forms. I always look at them. Doesnt everyone here?
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:grouphug:I was dated until I got married. I was young so I wasn't upset about that. Now I am over 60 I am back to being dated. However I have never met a Corvette that I would consider dated. The only thing that has less value as it gets older is humans. Heck even Corvette thinks that.
But the beauty of the c1's, the really sharp C2's, the snarky Sharks c3's , just starting to be appreciated C4. C5's will always be historic for their unique engineering. C6's brought 505 HP light weight Z06, super charged super cars, and the amazing wide body GS. None of those cars are dated just different then the C7. But what do I know I am to old to be rational. :grouphug: |
Originally Posted by Achmed
(Post 1583068898)
I saved a bunch of the C7 photos on my hard drive in various colours and angles, and browse through them sometimes to help decide which colour and package I should get.
Just now out of curiosity I went through my old C6 folder with pics of different C6's in various colours and angles and thought - wow the C6 is starting to look dated already. It doesn't look old but just not that great anymore. What do you guys think? |
Originally Posted by Achmed
(Post 1583068898)
I saved a bunch of the C7 photos on my hard drive in various colours and angles, and browse through them sometimes to help decide which colour and package I should get.
Just now out of curiosity I went through my old C6 folder with pics of different C6's in various colours and angles and thought - wow the C6 is starting to look dated already. It doesn't look old but just not that great anymore. What do you guys think? |
Originally Posted by alanhang
(Post 1583069494)
it looks dated beside the new car, and when the new ones come out, it will prbably fall further in value. But over the years its value will come back up to a certain extent. But im thinking that the true collectible will be the zr1. It was vastly superior to the zo6. But I think for the short term even the zr1 will drop further in value to its present asking prices.
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The C7 makes the C6 look dated, just as much as the C6 made the C5 look dated.
This should not be a shock to anyone. If the new generation did not make the last generation look dated, then GM would be in big trouble. |
Originally Posted by BMadden
(Post 1583069041)
Hasn't this topic been beaten to death in a million other threads already? It's being posted in the C7 section so naturally most people here are going to say the C6 looks dated. Post the same topic in the C6 section and most there will say it still looks a lot better than the C7.
Personally, I don't own a C6 so I have no horse in this race, but I don't think the Z06/ZR1/GS widebody versions look dated at all. I've never been a big fan of the base car so I'm not going to say it still looks great, but I honestly think the widebody C6 is a better looking design than what I've seen of the C7 so far and it's mainly due to the horrendous rear end. :ack: |
Originally Posted by alanhang
(Post 1583069494)
it looks dated beside the new car, and when the new ones come out, it will prbably fall further in value. But over the years its value will come back up to a certain extent. But im thinking that the true collectible will be the zr1. It was vastly superior to the zo6. But I think for the short term even the zr1 will drop further in value to its present asking prices.
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Originally Posted by BMadden
(Post 1583069430)
I don't believe for one second that the C7 forum is unbiased. I would say the majority of people posting here are doing so because they like the C7 and/or will be buying one. Those individuals are completely biased in favor of the C7 and therefore your conclusion is far from correct.
However the C6 forum has virtually ALL owners as C6 owners, and therefore the bias is much stronger there. So again, C6 forum is more biased and your "point" doesn't stand ;) Nice try though lol. |
Originally Posted by NW94Z
(Post 1583070017)
You said the C6 looks dated (old) but that it doesn't look "old" just not great. I'm confused. Does the C6 just not look good anymore because a car (a relatively static object) can go from looking good to bad as it ages? Or did it never really look good and the C7 makes that clear now?
1) "Starting to look dated" 2) "Does not look old" 3) "Not that great anymore" Dated does not equal old, and especially "starting to look dated" as that's just the initial phase of being dated. Everything that is old is dated, but not everything that is dated is old. I also did not say that the C6 "does not look good" just that it does not look "that great." |
Originally Posted by SilverC6AZ
(Post 1583070168)
The C7 makes the C6 look dated, just as much as the C6 made the C5 look dated.
This should not be a shock to anyone. If the new generation did not make the last generation look dated, then GM would be in big trouble. |
Originally Posted by Achmed
(Post 1583070687)
*yawn* the C7 forum contains people who were anticipating upgrading to a C6 or deciding to buy a C7 (and were therefore unbiased), includes some haters (biased against C7), includes some people who will likely never buy a Corvette of any generation (still unbiased), and like you said some who like the C7 and want to buy one (so a few are biased)
However the C6 forum has virtually ALL owners as C6 owners, and therefore the bias is much stronger there. So again, C6 forum is more biased and your "point" doesn't stand ;) Nice try though lol. |
Originally Posted by BMadden
(Post 1583070818)
Believe what you want, but I still think you're wrong and the bias here is just as strong as it is in C6 Gen. All you have to do is read the posts and it's clear as day. I'm done arguing with you about it now.
I'm still right though :D One more thing - yes people on the C7 forum like the C7 better than those on the C6 forum, but that does not make them more biased if you know what I mean. For example, I am unbiased in that prior to the C7 reveal I did not think it would look much better or any better than the C6, and was open to liking the C6 better, but once it was revealed it was easy to make the decision as to which is better. |
C6 = different looking than C7, not dated.
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Originally Posted by zland
(Post 1583071051)
C6 = different looking than C7, not dated.
Until (if) the wide body version of the C7 comes out I still think the Grand Sport/Z06/ZR1 is the more all around aggressive looking car. |
The Ford GT looks dated too. Oh, and fabulous as well.
It will be a long time before I look at my ZR1 and find it unattractive, not to mention it being an absolute hoot to drive. Don't know how many times I've come within an inch of pulling the trigger on a resto-mod C2 with a modern SRIII suspension and 600-ish hp LS driveline (and still may do so). "Dated" car. And smoking hot. |
The C7 instantly made the C6 look dated. The C6 is still a good looking car, but even the wide body's don't compare to the lines and shape of the base C7.
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Had a C5 loved it, saw the C6 loved it more, sold the C5 ordered the C6(Base Coupe) in 2006. Seen the C7 love it, my C6 is paid for so I love it even more. The bottom line is they are all Corvettes the Icon of American Sports Cars.
Save the WAVE and keep it pushing! I will pull my C6 next to a C7 when they hit the road and still be a proud Vette owner! My goal is to buy a C7 in about 5 years and keep my C6 as a daily driver. 5 years from now all the bugs should be out plus any cosmetic changes will have been made and and it will be the toast of the town.:flag: |
I still don't think the c6 grand sport looks dated at all . Different yet still gorgeous and still fresh looking.
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Originally Posted by Achmed
(Post 1583069366)
The difference is, posters on the C6 forum own a C6. Posters on the C7 forum do not own a C7 since it's not yet for sale. Therefore, the C7 forum is not biased like the C6 forum. And since the majority of posters on the unbiased form agree the C6 is looking at least a bit dated - conclusion is that I am correct :smash:
Both the C6 and C7 sections are biased. If you don't think there is some serious C7 fanboys in this section, you are lying to yourself. Having said this, I have spent some time on another forum geared toward european cars and the C7 is being talked about very VERY favorably. If you want more unbiased answers, you should visit other (non-corvette specific) forums. |
Originally Posted by jschindler
(Post 1583070668)
I agree with a lot of what you say, but while the ZR1 is a hell of a car I think it is not "vastly" superior to the Z06, and I have driven both back to back (and of course I owned a Z06 for over three years). But you do make very good points about what the values are likely to do.:thumbs:
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Originally Posted by jschindler
(Post 1583070668)
I agree with a lot of what you say, but while the ZR1 is a hell of a car I think it is not "vastly" superior to the Z06, and I have driven both back to back (and of course I owned a Z06 for over three years). But you do make very good points about what the values are likely to do.:thumbs:
ZO6: Street legal race car ZR1: Street legal race car and GT Cruiser |
Originally Posted by Achmed
(Post 1583070687)
*yawn* the C7 forum contains people who were anticipating upgrading to a C6 or deciding to buy a C7 (and were therefore unbiased), includes some haters (biased against C7), includes some people who will likely never buy a Corvette of any generation (still unbiased), and like you said some who like the C7 and want to buy one (so a few are biased)
However the C6 forum has virtually ALL owners as C6 owners, and therefore the bias is much stronger there. So again, C6 forum is more biased and your "point" doesn't stand ;) Nice try though lol. Also, the Mods shut down C7 threads with any negativity, yet allow every thread bashing the C6. |
I find this talked of "dated" Corvettes a little strange.
When I see my neighbor's 97 convertible I think "that's a nice C5". When I see my friends 67 convertible I think "that's a nice C2". When I saw the first look video of the C7 on Jay Leno's Garage I though "that's an awesome looking C7". When did Corvettes fall into the category of being dated? I thought that sort of thing was reserved for the Dodge Steath/Mitsubishi 3000's and the Honda Accord/Toyota Camry. |
Originally Posted by Paulchristian
(Post 1583074782)
I agree, the ZR1 is not vastly superior on a track than say a newer ZO7 model ZO6, some say the ZO6 even sounds better (and I agree). However, the ZR1, separates itself as the better car, IMO, as a daily driver. Seems smoother and more forgiving on the street
ZO6: Street legal race car ZR1: Street legal race car and GT Cruiser |
Originally Posted by deecount
(Post 1583074973)
I find this talked of "dated" Corvettes a little strange.
When I see my neighbor's 97 convertible I think "that's a nice C5". When I see my friends 67 convertible I think "that's a nice C2". When I saw the first look video of the C7 on Jay Leno's Garage I though "that's an awesome looking C7". When did Corvettes fall into the category of being dated? I thought that sort of thing was reserved for the Dodge Steath/Mitsubishi 3000's and the Honda Accord/Toyota Camry. |
Originally Posted by not08crmanymore
(Post 1583069120)
Oh please.The C6 looks no more dated then last years Ferrari.I would even venture to say It's better looking in many ways.The C7,with all it's sharp angles will be dated much quicker then it's older brother.I like all Vettes so I'm not bashing the C7 here,but please,it's not the be all and end all in the looks department.It's borderline ugly.
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Love the one your with.....there is no such thing as an ugly / dated ( stock ) Corvette.
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To the original poster: I've had the opposite reaction as you actually. The more pictures I see of the c7, the less I like it, and appreciate the wide body style c6 even more. I thought I liked the front of the c7, but now I don't like all the lines on the hood. The whole car looks too angular, and the rear, well, I've already said my piece there.
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Love the one your with.....there is no such thing as an ugly / dated ( stock ) Corvette.
I made my decision when I had a choice between the two. Took delivery 21 December 2012, just 23 days before the unveiling of the C7. I could afford either one, but didn't want to wait for the C7. Besides, this C6Z came at perfect timing, at a perfect price in the perfect color and options combination I have been looking for for the past 3 years. I am very happy with my decision regardless of the introduction of the C7 and I am not worried about depreciation. :thumbs: http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps1e759df4.jpg |
[QUOTE=WICKEDFRC;1583076370]Love the one your with.....there is no such thing as an ugly / dated ( stock ) Corvette.
love the wheels , might have to get some for this <----------------------------------------------------- http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps1e759df4.jpg[/QUOT] |
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Originally Posted by WICKEDFRC
(Post 1583076370)
Love the one your with.....there is no such thing as an ugly / dated ( stock ) Corvette.
love the wheels , might have to get some for this <----------------------------------------------------- http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps1e759df4.jpg[/QUOT] |
I'm proud to love a car that has such a rich heritage. There are only a handful of cars have a longer history...(I believe land cruiser, jeep, beetle, morgan 4/4, and the suburban). Corvette is storied, iconic, and patriotic. Whenever I see any cX Vette, I get that smile and sense of pride. I have no doubt the same will happen for the c7, as it has for all its elders.
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My Modified C5 looks dated --- exactly the way I like it!
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...s/IMG_0436.jpg http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...s/IMG_0423.jpg |
Originally Posted by WICKEDFRC
(Post 1583076370)
Love the one your with.....there is no such thing as an ugly / dated ( stock ) Corvette.
I made my decision when I had a choice between the two. Took delivery 21 December 2012, just 23 days before the unveiling of the C7. I could afford either one, but didn't want to wait for the C7. Besides, this C6Z came at perfect timing, at a perfect price in the perfect color and options combination I have been looking for for the past 3 years. I am very happy with my decision regardless of the introduction of the C7 and I am not worried about depreciation. :thumbs: http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps1e759df4.jpg Very nice. Is that a 427 or a GS I can't tell the difference. I have been driving C5's for years and there were not a lot of models. :thumbs: |
Originally Posted by happiedazs
(Post 1583076805)
My Modified C5 looks dated --- exactly the way I like it!
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...s/IMG_0436.jpg http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...s/IMG_0423.jpg |
Originally Posted by happiedazs
(Post 1583076805)
My Modified C5 looks dated --- exactly the way I like it!
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...s/IMG_0436.jpg http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...s/IMG_0423.jpg |
Originally Posted by Bill17601
(Post 1583076806)
Very nice. Is that a 427 or a GS I can't tell the difference. I have been driving C5's for years and there were not a lot of models. :thumbs:
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Car design has matured enough over the last 100+ years that technical improvements no longer result in overt appearance differences from one generation to the next. The differences we notice are almost entirely to do with style.
All that has to happen for any given style to appear "dated" is for fashions to change, whether for better or for worse. The C6 was introduced in 2004, so we associate it (and cars like it) with 2004. Imagine a universe in which the C7 had come out in '04 and was replaced 9 years later by the C6. The C7 would appear dated, simply by definition. It's inescapable. There are plenty of examples of "dated" designs that have aged more gracefully than their successors. Compare, for example, the 1964½ Mustang and the 1974 Mustang II. (I should point out that I'm not likening the C7 to the Mustang II.) |
Originally Posted by happiedazs
(Post 1583076805)
My Modified C5 looks dated --- exactly the way I like it!
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...s/IMG_0436.jpg http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...s/IMG_0423.jpg |
Originally Posted by happiedazs
(Post 1583076805)
My Modified C5 looks dated --- exactly the way I like it!
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...s/IMG_0436.jpg http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...s/IMG_0423.jpg |
I made the decision between a new 2004 C5 and a new 2005 C6 the fall of 2004. After originally seeing the C5 in early 1997, I immediately had the "gotta have it" feeling. I did not have that initial feeling for the C6, although I have grown to like it more with the wide body Z06 and Grand Sport trim levels.
So far, I have had a similar "gotta have it" response to the C7, however I definitely want to touch and feel it first. I also plan to wait until the high HP model hits the streets and for GM to get rid of the new platform bugs that usually come with a complete redesign. I don't plan to replace, just add to the stable, so for right now, I am definitely "loving the one I'm with"! :thumbs: http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps0e8644cb.jpg http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps52349d09.jpg |
I dig the new c7! I dig my c6 and my previous c5 z06...
The new styles fresh .... The older gens are still cool. As said early on ...have fun buying the latest and greatest as soon as they hit. I always buy my new cars on my terms and timeframe. Works for me. |
Food for thought
You know the basic body lines of every Porsche sold today is based on the 1962 Porsche 911. That means for the past 51 years the body style for the most part has not changed. Yet, I don't hear any Porsche owners lamenting the 2013 Porsche makes the 2012 model look "dated"...
I own a C6, a very beautiful car. In a couple of years I will probably buy the C7, another very beautiful car. It I do buy the C7, it will not be because I believe the C6 looks "dated"... and that's all I am gonna say 'bout that...:toetap: |
Originally Posted by happiedazs
(Post 1583076805)
My Modified C5 looks dated --- exactly the way I like it!
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...s/IMG_0436.jpg http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k...s/IMG_0423.jpg |
Originally Posted by oldgoat99
(Post 1583077128)
C1.2.5? :thumbs: That IS nice!
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Originally Posted by MSG C5
(Post 1583077193)
I made the decision between a new 2004 C5 and a new 2005 C6 the fall of 2004. After originally seeing the C5 in early 1997, I immediately had the "gotta have it" feeling. I did not have that initial feeling for the C6, although I have grown to like it more with the wide body Z06 and Grand Sport trim levels.
So far, I have had a similar "gotta have it" response to the C7, however I definitely want to touch and feel it first. I also plan to wait until the high HP model hits the streets and for GM to get rid of the new platform bugs that usually come with a complete redesign. I don't plan to replace, just add to the stable, so for right now, I am definitely "loving the one I'm with"! :thumbs: http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps0e8644cb.jpg http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps52349d09.jpg |
Originally Posted by alanhang
(Post 1583079004)
no 2 there, just c1 and 5
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Originally Posted by oldgoat99
(Post 1583079355)
Is that not a c2 rear end?
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Originally Posted by alanhang
(Post 1583080618)
no its off the c1 . 58 and 59 and 60 had the long narrow rear lights and starting in 61 it had that rear end until the end of 62. The 63 was the same however. But I believe it is replicating only the c1.
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When my wife and I could finally afford new Corvettes, we always purchased the last year of the series. The final year cars seemed to have the best performance, refinements, and pricing. Our first new Corvette, a 1996 LT4 followed by a 2004 Z06 Commemorative and this past October a 2013 427 60th vert. I guess we have always owned "Dated" Corvettes, and loved every mile we have driven. Looking forward to the C8...
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I can't say my C6 looks dated based on some pictures of the C7. While I like the C7 I can't get caught up in the hoopla because I've yet to actually see it in person. I plan on getting a C7 and will probably keep my C6 for old times sake!!:D
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You guys better enjoy the C7 quick. Because as soon as the new car smell is gone
its just another car. Just like the Darling C6 is now a piece Cr*p to you guys. Good bet the C7 won't last as long, its asian theme will grow old faster. |
Originally Posted by texvette2
(Post 1583081900)
You guys better enjoy the C7 quick. Because as soon as the new car smell is gone
its just another car. Just like the Darling C6 is now a piece Cr*p to you guys. Good bet the C7 won't last as long, its asian theme will grow old faster. |
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