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Boil 01-23-2013 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by prinzSD455 (Post 1582918223)
What GM needs to do is concentrate on the C7 and consistently drive the point home with constant marketing and acknowledging the Corvette wins on the track. Somehow GM must think racing accomplishments are dirty words. The other thing GM must do is be consistent with Corvette quality because someone coming from the European brands won't put up with some of the GM dealer bs. The buying and dealership experience is also an area that GM must improve for potential import conquest sales.

This is taken from another thread:


So confident is GM in the systems ruggedness, the 100,000 mile warranty covers track use! (Take that Nissan, for equipping your cars with a launch control system…that voids the warranty!) Of course, they don’t want you chipping the ECU, or bolting on a set of Hoosiers. The warranty is only valid for the car as delivered.
I could see some great marketing & brand awareness if GM were to start up a regional Club Car series for C7 owners; you pay a little extra for a Club-Spec C7 (1LT/Z51/Comp Seats/Harnesses & Harness Bar/Tow Hooks/etc.) and you get a few weekends of basic HPDE included in the cost of the car; then you drive your C7 Club-Spec to the track on weekends (now on your dime) and race that sucker. You smash it up, that is out of your pocket, but maybe with a nice Club-Spec Member discount. Also, tires sales go up for the Michelin guys…

Bill Dearborn 01-23-2013 12:54 AM

The problem for GM has always been that Corvette can't be a true Halo car for the company due to the brand mix. GM isn't just one car company it is 4 brands; Chevy, Buick, Cadillac and GMC and each of the brands has their own following. How is it a halo car for 4 brands? Chevy, yes as it always has been although not promoted now as much as it was promoted 50 years ago.

BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, VW, Audi, Honda, etc don't have that problem. They are pretty much structured as one brand. Even Ford is pretty much one brand now. Chrysler is 4 with Viper being a separate brand now.

Bill

palindrome1H 01-23-2013 02:47 AM

Don't get me wrong. I like the new C7 a lot. I do however think that all discussions on this would be over and done with if they would have made the C7 mid engine. Even the hardcore purists would accept it with how unique and special it would be.

bluemax750 01-23-2013 03:04 AM

:rant:I make the motion that anyone that posts bold blue on white text or any color other than black will get a 1 month ban for the first offense, a 6 month ban for the second and a 1 year ban for the third. If they still haven't learned by then, a permanent ban. Because doing so is offensive to the eyes. :rant:

B747VET 01-23-2013 04:01 AM

With respect to De Lorenzo's writing, I can think of few written thoughts that have comprised such a complete waste of valuable time.

A brief reiteration of common knowledge followed by several paragraphs of banal blather. The term troll comes to mind.

grayline 01-23-2013 09:36 AM

Has this guy ever owned a corvette? Is he actually a professional?
Sounds like a rant:rock:

K-Spaz 01-23-2013 09:40 AM

I sort of agree with bluemax750

K-Spaz 01-23-2013 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by BlueOx (Post 1582918603)
The Alante/XLR are both long gone and Caddly is approved to come back with another, last I heard.

Must be customers walking in dealerships asking for where they are, or they wouldn't be getting ready to build em.

So why is it this would bother you with respect to the Vette?

BlueOx 01-23-2013 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by K-Spaz (Post 1582920311)
Must be customers walking in dealerships asking for where they are, or they wouldn't be getting ready to build em.

So why is it this would bother you with respect to the Vette?

Corvette sales?? Where do you think Caddy will get the engine for such a vehicle?
http://www.leftlanenews.com/cadillac...ports-car.html

Caddylac10 01-23-2013 10:45 AM

I echo De Lorenzo’s sentiments for the most part. I said it in many other posts...the Corvette brand needs to go beyond the “great for the money, ”the plastic fantastic” and the “cheap interior is acceptable for the performance you get.” The C7 is the start of that new direction…it is what the Corvette deserves. The Corvette is arguably the most iconic sports cars in the world and it cannot continue to progress without moving beyond the box that it has been in for decades.

Corvettes are not cheap, even in standard form, so they notion of even calling it affordable does not apply anymore. Are Corvettes attainable? Yes, but certainly not affordable. The standard C7 offers amazing performance…the kind that will never be maximized on the street and most likely never on the track, unless driven by a skilled driver. The Z06 and ZR1 are special and not for everyone to own. The Z twins will continue to move upmarket because they have to in order to compete. They are the flagships and should be marketed and positioned as such.

Many Corvette traditionalists are afraid of change. They are afraid of what they think they are losing because that's what they’ve been used to for decades, but ironically, no one is losing anything. The Corvette is simply growing and every other sports car manufacturer is too. Growing the Corvette brand requires going beyond the past. GM must look forward to the Corvette’s future as well. I’d like to think that people would be happy to see the brand grow. Mediocrity will not help the Corvette in any way.

dbdave 01-23-2013 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by B747VET (Post 1582919130)
With respect to De Lorenzo's writing, I can think of few written thoughts that have comprised such a complete waste of valuable time.

A brief reiteration of common knowledge followed by several paragraphs of banal blather. The term troll comes to mind.

:iagree:
Most of the current writers for anything automotive are writing much of the same useless drivel about just about any subject they cover. They all write like they are fresh out of journalism school.:ack:

rcallen484 01-23-2013 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by palindrome1H (Post 1582919059)
Don't get me wrong. I like the new C7 a lot. I do however think that all discussions on this would be over and done with if they would have made the C7 mid engine. Even the hardcore purists would accept it with how unique and special it would be.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Kidding, right? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

prinzSD455 01-23-2013 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by bluemax750 (Post 1582919081)
:rant:I make the motion that anyone that posts bold blue on white text or any color other than black will get a 1 month ban for the first offense, a 6 month ban for the second and a 1 year ban for the third. If they still haven't learned by then, a permanent ban. Because doing so is offensive to the eyes. :rant:

Just trying to help those who don't want to click on a link by making the text more obvious that it is not my opinion. :rofl::thumbs:

Off to ban camp.:D

evowake 01-23-2013 12:09 PM

I stopped reading about half way through when it turned into some sort of a creepy fantasy rant rather than a useful article.

:crazy2::crazy2::crazy2::crazy2:

evowake 01-23-2013 12:09 PM

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Dale427 01-23-2013 12:53 PM

I haul my Chevy Corvette with my Chevy Tahoe. Looks like their marketing is working just fine too me...

BriscoCounty 01-23-2013 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by evowake (Post 1582921719)
I stopped reading about half way through when it turned into some sort of a creepy fantasy rant rather than a useful article.

:crazy2::crazy2::crazy2::crazy2:

:cheers: That was just a bunch of ramblings by a crazy old guy (or he came off that way). Wants to separate Corvette from Chevy, but call 1 of his 3 Corvettes an SS. Isn't SS a Chevrolet only badge? Nothing else in GM uses it. And a Corvette Chaparral? A Corvette shrub? Great marketing there.

Its going to be a long wait until real C7s start being delivered and the threads go from things like this to what the car is really like. Then every one can get back to arguing about how often to change their oil and Z51 vs base suspension!!

BlueOx 01-23-2013 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by BriscoCounty (Post 1582922371)
:cheers: That was just a bunch of ramblings by a crazy old guy (or he came off that way). Wants to separate Corvette from Chevy, but call 1 of his 3 Corvettes an SS. Isn't SS a Chevrolet only badge? Nothing else in GM uses it. And a Corvette Chaparral? A Corvette shrub? Great marketing there.

Its going to be a long wait until real C7s start being delivered and the threads go from things like this to what the car is really like. Then every one can get back to arguing about how often to change their oil and Z51 vs base suspension!!

Great point.

JoesC5 01-23-2013 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by BriscoCounty (Post 1582922371)
:cheers: That was just a bunch of ramblings by a crazy old guy (or he came off that way). Wants to separate Corvette from Chevy, but call 1 of his 3 Corvettes an SS. Isn't SS a Chevrolet only badge? Nothing else in GM uses it. And a Corvette Chaparral? A Corvette shrub? Great marketing there.

Its going to be a long wait until real C7s start being delivered and the threads go from things like this to what the car is really like. Then every one can get back to arguing about how often to change their oil and Z51 vs base suspension!!

Sometimes it's quite helpful to actually know Corvette history before you spout off. There was a Corvette SS before the 1961 SS409 full size car. It was a Corvette designed and built by GM as a race car in 1957.

BriscoCounty 01-23-2013 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by JoesC5 (Post 1582922447)
Sometimes it's quite helpful to actually know Corvette history before you spout off. There was a Corvette SS before the 1961 SS409 full size car. It was a Corvette designed and built by GM as a race car in 1957.

Yes, but SS is used by Chevrolet, and if you want to spin off Corvette to its own brand, wouldn't make sense to use SS and still have Chevy using SS also?

Plus, outside of the Corvette community, do you know anyone that associates SS with Corvette? Its a Chevrolet thing to 99% of the population that even know what SS stands for.


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