What ever. I think they would like the concept car rear end better...

:iagree:

The shiny stuff looks tacky. I much prefer the matte look

Stunning. I really think all the black scoops should come in carbon fiber to match the roof... Also the interior is better looking but still to much plastic in my opinion. I will still have one in my garage next year.

RE: The rear lip spoiler gaps...I have a 2012 GS with the larger factory rear lip spoiler, and it doesn't fit much better. Has the gaps in the same spot. It's not that noticeable.

And is it just me, or does the gas pedal appear to pivot from the BOTTOM of the pedal, rather than the top, like a 911?

Greg

Love it, love it, love it!!!

My next one will be a C7.

I've driven a VW that had it as part of its paddles and I drove the 370z. I just dont think it belongs on a sports car of this caliber, and if it is, it should be a permanently defeat-able option!! Part of the joy of driving is to perfectly match your own gears via heel-toe (or just blipping it yourself) and if the car is doing it for you, that literally takes the fun out of it.

Viper front fascia, camaro rear end, c4 interior?

Guess I'll wait til' I see one in person. Wheels are nice:)

Thanks! Same hold down attachments as the C-6! :thumbs:

:thumbs::iagree:

Is the battery located in the trunk? I haven't been too successful in locating that tidbit of info yet.

Glad to see the hatch has a hand hold in it. I won't miss my '05 as much.:thumbs:

Thanks for posting those pics. Looks like a bit of an engineering marvel/challenge around those side windows. I am liking everything about the C7. C7 ZR1 in white with the earth tone interior and I will be down for the count.:cheers:

They did.

Loved the look of my C5. Liked the look of the C6 even more, a lot more. But the C7? It is really nice but looks like they added to much bling. Get rid of some of the black plastic pieces on the body and lose the stingray emblems and it would look even classier.
I think my next C7 will actually be a 2012 or 2013 C6 Grand Sport.

The black plastic bits are functional vent covers. What should they be made of and, before you say carbon fiber, why would carbon fiber be superior for this particular application?

:iagree::thumbs::woohoo:

Love it or hate it, the exterior styling is provocative!

It really does shake things up and I like the gray one from most angles. The rear end still looks... but from front, side and 3/4 front/side views I think the car is striking.

As far as fit and finish, it was most likely assembled by hand in a undisclosed side shop/warehouse by guys who were probably running way behind schedule and all cracked up on red bull and 5 hour energy to get final tweaks ready for the reveal. :eek:

As everyone knows, the plant is closing down next month to retool and then the cars will actually be manufactured with proper precision.

Oh, and random last point to a couple posts way back in this thread... the ZR1 rear spoiler is not made of carbon fiber. That was intentional. The materials for each and every piece of the ZR1 were thoroughly scrutinized for strength, weight, and balance on the car and the rear spoiler was deliberately not made of CF.

I really like it!

Not a huge fan of the steering wheel (would of like to see something D bottomed and wrapped in suede) and I'm not sold on the tail lights yet but I'm sure they'll grow on me.

Anyone know if hat is or isn't the base car? Looks like top of line interior for sure...

The incessant whining!! What if it came with a $1000 in the glove compartment, free, then we would hear.....I wanted $50's not $100's!?....... The bills are wrinkled! ......Why didn't GM put the bills in the console and not the glovebox! Wah, Wah, Wah.

Well my silver 07 may be going bye bye for a silver c7 or probably the dark grey c7 car looks amazing, on a down side they still have crap Bose stereos you have to be kidding, thinking buying the first year c7 may not be a good idea after the problems I had with my 05 had to push it home a few times - 07 never had a problem anyway back into debt again lol Stunning Vette.

So much for precision craftsmanship :(

Stiching looks like crap and the body panels don't even come close to lining up........ so sad. Another fail by an american car builder.

Loves:

Front styling
Side contour with curve inward and widening to rear
side profile
Nice Optional sport seat FINALLY

Dislikes:

Weak steering wheel
Matte Carbon fiber finish of dash reminds me of vinyl wrap, needs
epoxy finish like Audi
No dual clutch automatic


Hates:

Spoiler tacked on as an afterthought
Fat-ass rear and ugly tail lights

Not digging the huge black rear valance and would love to see the car in black to make it monochromatic looking (with red interior)


Overall a nice presentation but fit and finish issues may spoil this car if not corrected with mass production. Amazing car for the money.

BTW, there is no way this interior can compete on the same level with the latest offerings from Porsche (981/991) or Audi (S6/7/8 or R/RS) with the possible exception of the optional seats.

Audi S6
http://www.trendzcar.com/wp-content/...Interior-2.jpg

I think GM certainly designed a car to appeal to younger buyers. That doesn't mean that they plan on selling it to an 18 year old, but it certainly has appeal to those in their 20s and 30s. I'm sure 60 year old men thought the brand new C2 design was horrible looking in 1963!

Just saw a brochure from GM...the gas pedal is 'floor mounted for improved feel'. I guess it does indeed pivot from the floor. Odd.

Its easier to heel-toe with that sort of pedal, I was glad to see it there!

They should be made the same color of the car. I have no idea why you even mentioned carbon fiber, lol.

Luv it! I skipped the C6 as it was too close to my C5 but pencil me in for the 2015 ZO7 baby!!!

As you know, many people wrongly believe that ANYTHING made of plastic is BAD and would be better made of carbon fiber. So, plastic with the appropriate characteristics is fine, you would just prefer the vent covers be body color?

Nice...I really want one, but certainly cannot afford it...dang, it's a shame to be so poor!

Exactly my point, and let me add a couple more

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...psbecdb2f6.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps877b4868.jpg

And the cheesy air bag cover .

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps3cf0ee55.jpg

But some just don't car and will pay for faulty craftsmanship.

Same issues that have plagued the C6, poor panel gaps......on a world debut, its shameful.

I love the C7, but goes to show GM will have panel gap issues even with the new car. I remember C6 ZR1 owners being upset with panel gaps when paying 120,000 for their car.

I completely agree.

Look at the little switch panel to the right of the steering wheel. Looks like it is straight off a Cruze. No bezel, nothing. Just a piece of black (gray) plastic with some switches poking through.

That airbag cover looks like sh** too now that you pointed it out.

Could the fact this is a prototype and not off the assembly line play any part in this?

putting this up here for fun.

The best view...

my new desktop pic.

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/7...teviewcopy.jpg

God I really want to like this car, but with the back end, horrible steering wheel, junky looking plastic on the interior, the 9 or so plastic vents on the exterior and the interior/exterior panel gaps it is really difficult. GM the reveal was like an interview, and your resume appears to have a lot of mistakes!

Mant thoroughly disagree with your perceptions in this regard.

Even if you don't agree with me perception of the aesthetics, you can't argue the quality issues regarding the panel gaps. See 6 posts above. Hopefully these cars were rushed and production models will be better crafted.

:iagree:

I can say, however, that we have not seen a C7 that passed all QC inspections on a regular up and running production line.

:iagree: Ox but as I type this I am holding up R+T mag pic of a 2008 Gt-R and IMO the C7 is 75% the same design .Biggest difference is the front grills and the Hood vents.

Fair enough.

Yes. And lose the emblems. Opinions are different for everyone, The car simply looks disorganized to me and does not flow correctly.

What i think is going on here is the placebo effect. with all the hype leading up to the reveal people are just believing what has been pounded in their brain as in 'WORLD CLASS INTERIOR'. So they finally see it and they are all ga ga. and with everybody saying this car is super fast can run around a track like the a raped ape yea you got proof. everybody is drooling at the mouth without one road test even being performed yet.(or not one that i know of). BTW i am not knocking this car as i do have a deposit on it also, but i am a realist and i for one do think the interior is still cheap looking and until i get some actual road test reviews i will curb my enthusiasm till then when i can make a better opinion on the car.

...but these cars shown are not production off the line are they?

I assume they are hand built protos. Bound to get better with production components?

As hand built samples, they did however have the opportunity to use a belt sander and even up the gaps! It is only fiberglass and paint after-all.

I don't think they think we would be looking Soooooo close at the protos.

I'm sure most don't... just us chickens.

An all black one would be interesting to see to get that perspective, wouldn't it?

:iagree: with some but your comparing a $59K car to a $93K Audi. Even my 2007 Audi A6 Quattro Stickerd for $58K new.

The GTR can only dream to look as good as the C7

I believe an interior has to be experienced in person to be properly evaluated.

Seems Odd? I saw a video on the new Viper The pedals actually move back and forth?

I hope you guys realize that this is pre production. There may be changes still. As for the rear deck spoiler, it will be revised to fit properly.

I just want to say one thing to the nay-sayers and the remarks about the rear and the remarks about similarities of other cars.

This is a step forward for corvette. Its time to leave retro in the past and let technology lead the design aspect of America's true sports car. Many of the top tier automakers use the philosophy of "Form follows function". By that definition, aerodynamics that work will shape the car.

The front end looks corvette, not viper. I do see similarities, but I am sure its aerodynamics at work helped the proportions in making them similar.

The side profile looks Italia 458 or GTR but if you look closely at some of the other high-end cars, they also follow this design as well. The roof followed by the bulk but flat and squared rear is common.

Here is the big one.. The rear. You know what, I love it now. At first, I was indifferent but now I am in love with it. Sometimes, it takes time to like new designs; kinda like a new song. Why anyone sees a Camaro in the taillights is just disappointed that its not last gen styled. These lights look AMAZING at night and have quite a dimension to them.

Overall: When GM designed this car, the started with a clean sheet of paper and said "Lets remake America's sports car.. Lets truly define what corvette is suppose to be.. Let us innovate and set the standards of where corvette stands and where its future will lead.

And that is what they have done while rebranding to the youth, GM's future. I love technology personally and will always approve of forward thinking innovation and modern design. The corvette should always be on the forefront of the mark of excellence.

Well done General Motors.

I guess I'm in the minority.. Front and interior nice, rear half of car completely out of proportion with the front half. Looks like they did their wind tunnel tests with a pear and copied it. Not too impressed from my eye.

:iagree: Yep. Well said.

IS ANYONE ELSE HAPPY AS HELL THEY PUT THE REAR HANDLE UNDER THE HATCH TO CLOSE IT AGAIN!!!! I AM. That way you don't have to touch the paint when closing it. My 06 has this but a few friends of mine who have newer models were mad that they got rid of it.

Hey David,
I thought I recognized you! I was interested in your Z in 2011, if you recall. I ended up with a "new" '04 LeMans CE vert (w/1,316 mi), mainly because of the seats, believe it or not (I love the color, too). Two power lumbar adjusters do it for me. I've done some appearance mods, and engine power is plenty for the time being with a rear end gear change & some other "mild" mods, and the car is simply the most comfortable I've ever sat in. The lowest (bottom) lumbar adjustment hits my back right on the source of most of my back pain, so I can drive a long time before even making an adjustment change. If these new C7 seats are comparable, we'll see, but the C6 seats were bad for me.

But, there is nothing about my car I don't really like right now, I just put a Kenwood DNX9990 in for "updated" electronics w/Garmin Nav, and I am very pleased with it's performance, as well. It will be interesting to see if the C7 interface is a big improvement over the C6, and "up to par" with modern systems. The C7's DIC is a whole new thing, and I can't wait to see all it's configurations, with the 5 driver mode settings, too. Interesting Vette, IMO.

Let me know if you get one! :D

Best regards,
...z

:iagree: Again .... Well said!

My 07 has perfect panel seems and is very very well crafted.

Simply put these people bitchin about panel gaps have no idea WTF they're talking about.

Some are here on a seek and destroy mission. Corporate dirty tricks.

2013 Audi S6 is $72000.

Still, still still...even with the new ooo ahhh shapes, the materials look cheap, not very well finished, and just not a smooth cohesive interior..and with the car being so much stiffer...I am curious about the rattles, creaks and groans all that plastic on plastic is going to make going over less than glass surfaces..I guess we will all know soon enough..if early owners fess up and just admit the interior noises are just more of the same, same quality, no isolation, and just wrapped in new threads. Let's hope not.

C7 body fit
 

I will be buying a C7 during the first year of production, but am greatly disappointed with the body panel fit on the one shown at the Detroit Auto Show. I would have assumed that they would have taken the time to make the panels fit with equal clearances and concentrate on quality, which they did not. If they can't do it for a show car what are the chances the factory will do a better job. I have a 2010 GS that has terrible panel fit while my previous 2005 had great quality control and great fits. I know that HP and performance is Corvettes forte but quality must be tops on the list for their premier car. Just saying.

Sorry to say but,

Sad thing is....
This probably is the best fit they could manage

These cars were hand-built. There is no C7 assembly line - it's being built. I was there in April, and they were starting to build the new assembly line in the old XLR area. I've taken the tour 4 times, and they use computers and lasers to check tolerances, torques, etc. The production cars will be much better than these prototypes. Again, these are NOT production cars!!!

Really? It is a prototype built under a tight time line. Production vehicles undergo QC at every stage of their routine production on a dedicated and highly organized assembly line.

I hope those gaps are indeed fixed around the rear bumper and rear spoiler.

I guess I missed the pricing. Do you have a link that shows the price?

I can't imagine the price being lower.

All Chevrolet has said about the price (and this is from several different people) is, "If you can afford the current car, you can afford the C7." :cheers:

Best regards,
...z

"Extra" buttons?
 

What are the 2 buttons on the lower left of the wheel? I tend to hold the wheel on the lower left quadrant a lot and they look like I'd catch my fingernails and/or knuckles on them. :crazy2:


http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/...ps32096eea.jpg

Best regards,
...z

They appear to be the FAV buttons, moving up or down through the favorite preset radio stations.

Thank you sir. These are great. You wouldn't have any photos of the other colors in hi-res or the different interiors?

I'm with ya! Post #310 :thumbs:

Wow...I just noticed this...please, someone tell me we can blame this on being pre-production assembly. This is embarrassing ...at a world debut no less..

THank you, that is exactly what I have been thinking, these are prototypes, not production, I am sure the production models will have better fit and finish and appeal. I love the car and can not wait to see how it is in person.

Well that is too damn bad. Find another way to hold the steering wheel.

I'm not sure there are any real photos yet of any other color schemes.

i'm an owner of a c4 1995 and to me the interior of c7 is an upgraded C4 corvette interior , there is nothing new or special about it !! please take a good look at the picture i attached its almost i identical in terms of shape , lines ...etc .

Me Too! I nevery liked the C4 "digital dash" and do not particularly like the C7 layout, especially the divider between the driver and passenger seats.

While on the track the steering wheel really gets a work out. I, too, would hate to see an inadvertent tapping of the wrong switch. Maybe the parallax of the camera position makes it appear closer than it really is. :willy:

:thumbs: The late low mileage model C4's might increase in value. The cockpit setup allows many who can't afford a new C7 the ability to experience the feel of the new car's interior. I always liked the C4, the model that convinced me, I need a Corvette.

I laugh at the black wheels. Makes the car look dirty or at least ready for off road. IMO.

They sold 1.5% of last years 2012 cars with black wheels.. Yup it is a trend. But if you want them have at it, it is your car.:thumbs:

quite a few pics are like that, look at the drivers side quarter panel surrounding the headlight.

you'd think for a showpiece they'd at least get that perfect, and then proceed to screw up the actual production models accordingly.

:lol:

The could have done a better job detailing the paint as well. Mine is a road going car with 28,000 miles on it and when I detail it, it has less swirl marks than that car! I would have expected more from a car that introduces the corvette to the world!

Does any one know if all the dash top is in leather, i.e i can see that the red is leather but what about the black part?

IIRC, the C5 and, perhaps, the C6 had panels delivered ready to be installed by the supplier. I'll bet the panel fit of the final production of the C7 will be spot on. The C5, however, never had a decent panel fit. When I park the C4 beside my C5 the panel gaps of the C5 don't even look like it is from the same company. The C5 headlights always had really bad gaps in panel matchups. That might be one reason the C6 had fixed headlights. Easier to get ready-to-install body parts from outside supplier to match up. :thumbs:

Hard choice 09 ZR1 or C7....
 

This is an absolute NO BRAINER..! C7 all day! You'll have the newest, by far the best engineered vette ever ever made from the ground up, that as it stand will perform every bit as good or better than A Z06! But u want that 630+HP..... Well no problem wait 6-10 mos. & about $6k more
& now turbo & tuned you'll have a badass new C7 w/ easily 630hp+
But AT THE WHEELS 620-650rwhp monster w/ +4-8 more lbs of boost
& capable of 835 HP (720-725rwhp) easy choice. ESP the way the exhaust manifold is as factory... It's obvious it made for future twin turbo
ZL1 prob will be advertised as 700/700 w/ 0-60 rt bout 3sec & strong 11sec 1/4, (w/ a lil tune from factory will be 10's if the undersized width in rear tire grow to a must 335-345mm) the base model is already too
Narrow! At "450/450"lol heard very close to Z06 torque power
Lines= really bout 480/485hptq! Min 325/35/19-20, Z06-335 &
Next ZR1-345/30!!!!!

Well, sounds like you're just a wealth of info. Glad you came along! :troll