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trading tiger 12-26-2012 02:11 PM

If the pics of the C7 are accurate...
 
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.

ncvette_1FUNRIDE 12-26-2012 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.

I doubt that and I'm not even sure that I will like the C7 yet.

Dre01SS 12-26-2012 02:16 PM

The opinion is strong with this post.

No they won't... They'll sell just like every other Vette has sold when introduced. There'll be early adopters, coming from within the brand, and outside of the brand.

mcandrew67 12-26-2012 02:19 PM

I too say no they won't..... unsuspecting buyers will also be paying hefty dealer markups on top of it. And, dealers will find the suckers willing to pay it.

Random84 12-26-2012 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Dre01SS (Post 1582660905)
The opinion is strong with this post.

No they won't... They'll sell just like every other Vette has sold when introduced. There'll be early adopters, coming from within the brand, and outside of the brand.

:iagree:

A lot of people buy things just because they're new, fashionable or because it is the "best" they can afford. Not everyone is a purist, sometimes people just buy cars as an image, or a weekend toy, or to have the Next Big Thing. Some people buy cars for the gadgets on the insides, some people buy for the comfort or economy, others buy stripped out no-frills cars for the outsides, or the performance. That's why commercials always try to lure in the New Buyer - most people are "new buyers" when it comes to brand or car type.

They will sell - time will tell how well though.

ATC399 12-26-2012 02:34 PM

They will sale like "hot cakes"...its going to be a Beast

VatorMan 12-26-2012 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by troller399 (Post 1582661020)
They will sale like "hot cakes"...its going to be a Beast

:withstupid:

LawrenceFromTorrance 12-26-2012 02:48 PM

Let's see
1) More HP
2) Better fuel economy
3) Better interior
4) Better dash
5) Fresh new style
Yah, you're right they won't sell any all all:ack:

TractionControlOff 12-26-2012 02:55 PM

Disagree completely. Regardless of whether or not *I* like the C7, it will sell well, at least initially.

Why? Well first of all, some people will buy it no matter what it looks like. Some people want the latest and greatest Corvette, some people will want it for status and some people will buy it just to buy it.

But again, regardless of looks, consider what we already know about it: more power, "improved" interior, more driver aids, more driver accessories and more options. It will be the best performance car for the price, AND it gets fuel mileage comparable to mid-size sedans.

The Corvette C7 will sell, whether you or I love it or hate it.

05C6GAC 12-26-2012 02:56 PM

Only time will tell!!!

*C7* 12-26-2012 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.

I'll agree with you on the sitting on the lots for a long time, but it is not the C7s that will be sitting.

Hint! Hint!

Sell your C6 GS NOW and avoid the rush..........:thumbs::thumbs:

Aozora 12-26-2012 03:02 PM

Congrats on your new GS, that's one beautiful ride and always will be. However, You're wrong, this is going to be one hell of a Vette. Albeit if i just bought a c6 a month before the c7 unveiling (opps!), I would probably be trying to justify my purchase as well. Sorry about your massive impending depreciation and...
Happy new year.

:cheers:

mtrainer 12-26-2012 03:05 PM

In my humble opinion, the new C7 will be an improved car in every aspect save one, the styling. If what we've been exposed to is accurate.

slief 12-26-2012 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.

I don't agree one bit. I currently have my second C6. First one was a 2007 convertible. My current is an 09 Z06. I absolutely love the C6 but I am looking forward to the C7. The Corvette has proven generation after generation to be a premier sports car and the C7 will not fall short! While some may not like it's new design or some elements of it, I'd bet most will love it!

I for one really like the new design and stronly believe it will look much better in person. As such, I definately see a C7 in my future!

That said, Congrats on your C6 purchase! It's a great car but will be dated shortly by most peoples standards.. Change is difficult for many people, especially drastic change. We are seeing the same kind of revolt that we saw when the C6 info started leaking out but opinions changed and the C6 is now revered. My gut tells me, even you will be giving serious consideration to the C7 in the future. It will be leaps ahead of the C6 both in performance and design. Rest assured that it will even grow on even the most diehard C6 enthusiasts as well as the most staunch C7 skeptics and they will sell just fine. Rest assured!

69L79 12-26-2012 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :rolleyes:

Dre01SS 12-26-2012 03:12 PM

And to add... While the C6 / C7 looks are subjective, the performance difference will be objective C7 > C6 and that.. will drive sales.

The newest and 'greatest' per se.

Process Black 12-26-2012 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C5 Z06 last month. Those C6's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C5's are going to sell like hotcakes.

There. Now it's December 2003 all over again.

NytmereZ 12-26-2012 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by LawrenceFromTorrance (Post 1582661105)
Let's see
1) More HP
2) Better fuel economy
3) Better interior
4) Better dash
5) Fresh new style
Yah, you're right they won't sell any all all:ack:

Lambo forums have the real deal design up, the dash looks like the vipers dash, the front end looks very nice, similar to C6 but nicer, side is still C5/C6. back end :ack: looks like a camaro and gtr mated.

Seats are better, but you will be disappointed with the rest(still allot of plastic)

It is a very corporate design, as I suspected for a mass produced vehicle , it will sell well , but as stated above , not many purists around anymore.

People are raving about heated/ cooled seats that will be in the C7..... :rolleyes:

PRicanC6Xpress 12-26-2012 03:20 PM

Hi
 

Originally Posted by Aozora (Post 1582661199)
Congrats on your new GS, that's one beautiful ride and always will be. However, You're wrong, this is going to be one hell of a Vette. Albeit if i just bought a c6 a month before the c7 unveiling (opps!), I would probably be trying to justify my purchase as well. Sorry about your massive impending depreciation and...
Happy new year.

:cheers:

Thats not a nice thing to say... The square C7 lights if there on the money as a leak. Look like a mustang from the rear. I agree they are gonna sell it's just a better built car. I'm going to lease the first year. Then I'm going to give it back and lease me the 3rd year C7 Zo6 or is it Z07 Lol:lol:

slief 12-26-2012 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by NytmereZ (Post 1582661257)
Lambo forums have the real deal design up, the dash looks like the vipers dash, the front end looks very nice, similar to C6 but nicer, side is still C5/C6. back end :ack: looks like a camaro and gtr mated.

Seats are better, but you will be disappointed with the rest(still allot of plastic)

It is a very corporate design, as I suspected for a mass produced vehicle , it will sell well , but as stated above , not many purists around anymore.

People are raving about heated/ cooled seats that will be in the C7..... :rolleyes:

The real dash designs have been posted here as well..

As for the comment about lots of plastic, vets have always had lots of plastic and I don't see a big issue with that. The higher end interior options offer more leather for those who want it. That said, short of more leather on the inside, what else should they be using? Metal such as aluminum?? I like the plastic body parts as they tend to eliminate the potential for many unwanted dings while also keeping weight and costs down. Carbon fiber would be nice but that would really drive the cost up.

Remember, this is not a lambo and the huge value in the Corvette is the fact that you could own two new Corvettes for the price of one low end Lambo. That while still having nearly comparable performance. Sure, it might not have the sex appeal but you certainly get 10x the reliability, comparable performance at a fraction of the cost both up front and long term. There has to be some level of compromise to deliver the kind of performance and value that Corvettes have delivered generation after generation.

Frankie2blue 12-26-2012 03:25 PM

There are a number of folks that just bought a C6 and are in complete denial that the C7 will trash the C6 in almost every way. That car is going to make a C6 look very old, tired and outdated in a hurry. C6 resale will be on par with the C5 resale when the C6 was introduced. Remember when people thought pop ups were cool? :D I remember when the ZO6 came out for C6 and how I could not wait to dump the C5. The same will happen for the majority when the C7 comes out- I think you can bet on it.

jimmyb 12-26-2012 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by NytmereZ (Post 1582661257)
Lambo forums have the real deal design up, the dash looks like the vipers dash, the front end looks very nice, similar to C6 but nicer, side is still C5/C6. back end :ack: looks like a camaro and gtr mated.

Seats are better, but you will be disappointed with the rest(still allot of plastic)

It is a very corporate design, as I suspected for a mass produced vehicle , it will sell well , but as stated above , not many purists around anymore.

People are raving about heated/ cooled seats that will be in the C7..... :rolleyes:

I often go to Lamborghini forums for my next gen Corvette info....I'm sure the Lamborghini guys are all over the changes from C6 to C7. Give me a break.

Jimmy

Dre01SS 12-26-2012 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Frankie2blue (Post 1582661332)
I remember when the ZO6 came out for C6 and how I could not wait to dump the C5. The same will happen for the majority when the C7 comes out- I think you can bet on it.

And I'm sitting here waiting on that for my C6Z06 purchase :D

Aozora 12-26-2012 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by PRicanC6Xpress (Post 1582661308)
Thats not a nice thing to say...

At least I lead with a congratulatory compliment, I'd say its a fairly ambiguous remark.
Also notice the :cheers: at the end, that always makes it less insulting.

jb_va2001 12-26-2012 03:54 PM

Nothing wrong with a 2013 Corvette, I bought one too. But I expect the C7 will be hot for the first 2-3 years, even if it looks like the leaks we've been seeing since the original Jalopnik rendering appeared.

Cheers, :cheers:
JB

BuckyThreadkiller 12-26-2012 03:57 PM

It's a shame so many C6 owners don't like the back end. I'm betting that's the view most will see.

flange 12-26-2012 04:01 PM

I think the original statement is dead wrong. There are lots of reasons for folks to buy the new model. Be it performance gains, appearance gains, the idea of having the latest greatest, or just that it time in a person's cycle for a new car. The change will also likely draw in different buyers who previously owner other brands. Its all good though.

for me, I bought my car now for several reasons. First, I am a cheapskate to a degree, and favored a discounted 427 vert over a hot new design. Second, I couldnt have a new design in time for spring, and after an eight year hiatus, wanted one NOW, not in september. I am not sure there will even be a vert first year, so its a dice roll for me, as thats what I wanted, a vert, NOW. I also dont like the idea of paying list or more, when I can drive the "old model" for two or three years, get a better car and incentives, and finally. if I REALLY want a C7, I will just get in line and buy one.

But to the original commentary, its doubtfull they will be blocking up dealers lots, keeping them from moving out all of those volts or avalanches.

vant 12-26-2012 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by BuckyThreadkiller (Post 1582661533)
It's a shame so many C6 owners don't like the back end. I'm betting that's the view most will see.

http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/A...688/688486.gif

jr3 12-26-2012 04:03 PM


Let's see

1) More HP = Good thing, but not the most important thing.
2) Better fuel economy = Could care less, how's the Volt selling?
3) Better interior = Says who? Just looks redesigned so far. Dont know about better (wait & see).
4) Better dash = Ok, you got a updated C4 dash :D
5) Fresh new style = Are you smokin' crack? :rofl:

Yah, you're right they won't sell any all all
Im sure a lot of people will drink the coolaide and talk about how great it is because its the newest greatest thing. But at some point the new will wear off and the unliked issues will still be there.

1. The car can have all the HP in the world.
2. The worlds best fuel economy.
3. Redesigned seats.
4. A updated C4 dash.
5. A wacky/copied/hybrid design from multiple cars.

But many people still buy things because they "like" them... Honey Boo Boo's mama mave have a lot of HP in bed, but i dont know how many people would pay $100k to be seen with her.

I hope the car sells good. Thats good for the folks at the BG plant and the dealers. I kinda like the front end. Dont really like the rear end. But thats just my opinion. But there also seems to be a lot of people out there that have issues with the design. I would think it would be at least a small concern to look at the issues a loyal customer base has with the product that they've spent many years buying.

EDIT: Some parts of this were in good fun so dont take to seriously. Or please make sure you take your meds :)

TRT SR 12-26-2012 04:05 PM

GM is excellent at making cars that we get excited about. We might not love the tail lights now, but give it some time and we will wonder why it took them so long. I love my 2011 GS but I am counting the months left on my lease to when I can get the new C7. I am confident that when I see the car at Cobo in a few weeks I won't need my Cialis for a few days!:thumbs:

JoesC5 12-26-2012 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Frankie2blue (Post 1582661332)
There are a number of folks that just bought a C6 and are in complete denial that the C7 will trash the C6 in almost every way. That car is going to make a C6 look very old, tired and outdated in a hurry. C6 resale will be on par with the C5 resale when the C6 was introduced. Remember when people thought pop ups were cool? :D I remember when the ZO6 came out for C6 and how I could not wait to dump the C5. The same will happen for the majority when the C7 comes out- I think you can bet on it.

You sure on C6 values when the C7 arrives. C5 prices didn't tank when the C6's came out.

I traded my 98 C5(original MSRP of ~$40,000) in on a 2009 C6 Z06 in July 2008. I got $17,500 trade in(that's ~44% of the 98's new cost). Dealer then sold my C5 on his used car lot for $21,600(~53%). If you think the dealer gave me a high trade in value because he screwed me on the Z06's price, think again. I made the deal of the Z06 for $69,058(MSRP of $80,015) before I made the deal on trading the C5 in. I gave the dealer my 10.5 year old C5 and a check for $51,558 for the new(made in June 2008, one of the very early 2009 C6's built).

Of course, there are always those that just have to have newest and will pay stupid prices to have it including giving away their old car to get it.

Bill17601 12-26-2012 04:20 PM

The looks of the new C7 is subjective. You like it or you do not like it. The new technology is fact. Lighter weight, better transmissions etc. I really like C6's but they will fall in value that is an economic fact of life. Every Corvette owner has a great ride.

Aozora 12-26-2012 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by jimmyb (Post 1582661430)
I often go to Lamborghini forums for my next gen Corvette info....I'm sure the Lamborghini guys are all over the changes from C6 to C7. Give me a break.

Jimmy

I just checked em out. You're 100% correct! I now know with certainty that GM "adopted" magnetic shock technology from Ferarri. Even more interesting, the c7 will have Lamborghini doors and nearly identical seats.

http://www.lamborghini-talk.com/vbfo...orvette-22470/

:lol:

rcallen484 12-26-2012 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Aozora (Post 1582661708)
I just checked em out. You're 100% correct! I now know with certainty that GM "adopted" magnetic shock technology from Ferarri. Even more interesting, the c7 will have Lamborghini doors and nearly identical seats.

http://www.lamborghini-talk.com/vbfo...orvette-22470/

:lol:

:funnypost: People are the same everywhere.

PRicanC6Xpress 12-26-2012 04:35 PM

....
 

Originally Posted by Aozora (Post 1582661489)
At least I lead with a congratulatory compliment, I'd say its a fairly ambiguous remark.
Also notice the :cheers: at the end, that always makes it less insulting.

Hey, I'm on it to get the new c7, leased as soon as it comes out.... I'm hoping no one takes my new name PRicanC7Xpress... Hope you had a great Xmas. Have a Happy New Year....:cheers:

JerriVette 12-26-2012 04:36 PM

Enjoy your new grand sport as it's an awesome car. I dig my 2008 yet I know without a shadow of a doubt the c7 will be calling my name.....

GrayC5 12-26-2012 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by Frankie2blue (Post 1582661332)
There are a number of folks that just bought a C6 and are in complete denial that the C7 will trash the C6 in almost every way. That car is going to make a C6 look very old, tired and outdated in a hurry. C6 resale will be on par with the C5 resale when the C6 was introduced. Remember when people thought pop ups were cool? :D I remember when the ZO6 came out for C6 and how I could not wait to dump the C5. The same will happen for the majority when the C7 comes out- I think you can bet on it.


Originally Posted by JoesC5 (Post 1582661606)
You sure on C6 values when the C7 arrives. C5 prices didn't tank when the C6's came out.

I traded my 98 C5(original MSRP of ~$40,000) in on a 2009 C6 Z06 in July 2008. I got $17,500 trade in(that's ~44% of the 98's new cost). Dealer then sold my C5 on his used car lot for $21,600(~53%). If you think the dealer gave me a high trade in value because he screwed me on the Z06's price, think again. I made the deal of the Z06 for $69,058(MSRP of $80,015) before I made the deal on trading the C5 in. I gave the dealer my 10.5 year old C5 and a check for $51,558 for the new(made in June 2008, one of the very early 2009 C6's built).

:iagree: I have to agree with JoesC5 on this and question a lot of what Frankie2blue wrote. We sold our 2003 C5 vert ourselves in October of this year to buy a new 2013 GS. We sold our 2003 C5 for 50% of what we paid for it new. That is a lot of resell value for a 10 year old car. Too, I have been watching used Corvette prices closely. Used C5s and C6s in this part of the country are in short supply and bringing premium prices. I fully expect this trend to continue for some time to come, especailly with the economy the way it is now.

meadowz06 12-26-2012 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.

That is the most inaccurate statement I have seen on this forum in years!

LawrenceFromTorrance 12-26-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:
Let's see

1) More HP = Good thing, but not the most important thing. Geez What is important to you -- Status. that's just foolish
2) Better fuel economy = Could care less, how's the Volt selling? I could buy a Ferrari but I'm just not into status or spending big at the gas pump -- only an idiot would be.
3) Better interior = Says who? Just looks redesigned so far. Dont know about better (wait & see). Everybody says it and if you don't believe it you don't believe anything so why even comment here -- just making noise I guess
4) Better dash = Ok, you got a updated C4 dash So now you know everything about the dash when you're saying wait and see on the interior -- again just noise
5) Fresh new style = Are you smokin' crack? No, I don't it doesn't go well with my 180+ IQ and you're an idiot for suggesting it.

Yah, you're right they won't sell any all all

Im sure a lot of people will drink the coolaide and talk about how great it is because its the newest greatest thing. But at some point the new will wear off and the unliked issues will still be there.

1. The car can have all the HP in the world.
2. The worlds best fuel economy.
3. Redesigned seats.
4. A updated C4 dash.
5. A wacky/copied/hybrid design from multiple cars.

But many people still buy things because they "like" them... Honey Boo Boo's mama mave have a lot of HP in bed, but i dont know how many people would pay $100k to be seen with her.

I hope the car sells good. Thats good for the folks at the BG plant and the dealers. I kinda like the front end. Dont really like the rear end. But thats just my opinion "which means nothing" how true. But there also seems to be a lot of people out there that have issues with the design. I would think it would be at least a small concern to look at the issues a loyal customer base has with the product that they've spent many years buying.

rcallen484 12-26-2012 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.


Originally Posted by meadowz06 (Post 1582661982)
That is the most inaccurate statement I have seen on this forum in years!

It is sad and comical all at the same time. I love my 2011 C6. I will love my C6 just as much on 1-14-13, no matter what is revealed 1-13-13. In the meantime, I am driving and will continue to drive a Corvette.

TOBASCO 12-26-2012 05:17 PM

It's interesting that the amount of negative sentiment for the upcoming C6 was about the same that is going on right now for the C7 - and I was one of them! But it was the wide body GS (needed a vert) that finally sold me and I had to have one. Each "rendition" that shows up being the latest and greatest "real" C7 are getting to me - and I'm liking it more and more!

My guess is that the vast majority of long term Vette enthusiasts will have a C7 sometime in their garage in the future. :D:thumbs::D

racebum 12-26-2012 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.

c5 guys are still saying this

some folks never move forward


Originally Posted by Frankie2blue (Post 1582661332)
There are a number of folks that just bought a C6 and are in complete denial that the C7 will trash the C6 in almost every way. That car is going to make a C6 look very old, tired and outdated in a hurry. C6 resale will be on par with the C5 resale when the C6 was introduced. Remember when people thought pop ups were cool? :D I remember when the ZO6 came out for C6 and how I could not wait to dump the C5. The same will happen for the majority when the C7 comes out- I think you can bet on it.


i agree, in fact i don't really see how it could be anything but what you said. it's the cycle of consumerism..

the last sports car i can think of to receive an update with the nissian Z. the 350 dropped like a rock when the 370 was released. hell, nice 50k mile 2007 350z's are all of 12k right now.

if the c6 doesn't adjust down in a similar manner i would be absolutely shocked.

jr3 12-26-2012 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by LawrenceFromTorrance (Post 1582661983)
Quote:
Let's see

1) More HP = Good thing, but not the most important thing. Geez What is important to you -- Status. that's just foolish - *No not status but common sense > Many people do buy because they "like" the car. There will always be some other car with more HP.

2) Better fuel economy = Could care less, how's the Volt selling? I could buy a Ferrari but I'm just not into status or spending big at the gas pump -- only an idiot would be. > *Uhhhh excuse me, but what are you talking about? What does a status have to do with fuel economy. Are you at the bar? :D

3) Better interior = Says who? Just looks redesigned so far. Dont know about better (wait & see). Everybody says it and if you don't believe it you don't believe anything so why even comment here -- just making noise I guess> *Because everybody says it? Okie dokie... No not noise, a reply to simply point out we'll have to wait & see what it ends up being. :thumbs: Didnt everybody also say the world would end 12-21-12? :D

4) Better dash = Ok, you got a updated C4 dash. :D So now you know everything about the dash when you're saying wait and see on the interior -- again just noise.> *Are you serious? :rofl: Did you not understand it was kidding about the C4? Need a refill? :)

5) Fresh new style = Are you smokin' crack? No, I don't it doesn't go well with my 180+ IQ and you're an idiot for suggesting it.> *One more drink? :chill: Relax dude, geez. :cheers:

Yah, you're right they won't sell any all all


Im sure a lot of people will drink the coolaide and talk about how great it is because its the newest greatest thing. But at some point the new will wear off and the unliked issues will still be there.

1. The car can have all the HP in the world.
2. The worlds best fuel economy.
3. Redesigned seats.
4. A updated C4 dash.
5. A wacky/copied/hybrid design from multiple cars.

But many people still buy things because they "like" them... Honey Boo Boo's mama mave have a lot of HP in bed, but i dont know how many people would pay $100k to be seen with her.

I hope the car sells good. Thats good for the folks at the BG plant and the dealers. I kinda like the front end. Dont really like the rear end. But thats just my opinion "which means a lot to Lawrence" how true. But there also seems to be a lot of people out there that have issues with the design. I would think it would be at least a small concern to look at the issues a loyal customer base has with the product that they've spent many years buying.

Dont take things so serious... Just relax, its 5:00 :cheers:

http://www.beer100.com/images/beermug.jpg

Jinx 12-26-2012 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by jr3 (Post 1582661579)
Im sure a lot of people will drink the coolaide and talk about how great it is because its the newest greatest thing.

Just stop with this metaphor. People who like it are not drinking the Kool-Aid, any more than people who dislike it are not just jealous or merely afraid of change. Seriously, point out who fits in these absurd camps or let it go and deal with the honest differences of opinion.


But at some point the new will wear off and the unliked issues will still be there.
You mean the people who never liked them will still be posting about it.

Yes, there will be some who rush in and have regrets later. There will also be some who warm up to the design later, or who decide it's not important enough to preclude liking the car overall and even owning one.


Honey Boo Boo's mama mave have a lot of HP in bed, but i dont know how many people would pay $100k to be seen with her.
Honey Boo Boo's mama doesn't have her performance stats published in enthusiast magazines. And there are a lot of alternatives in that segment. But we understand that there is a level of ugly that trumps all other factors and that some believe C7 exceeds it.


I would think it would be at least a small concern to look at the issues a loyal customer base has with the product that they've spent many years buying.
Not before the loyal customer base has seen the actual product. You have an idea of what it will look like, but you have not seen the actual product.

If you're in a band, you want to know which of your songs are your fans' favorites and which sell best. You do not want to ask your fans what the chord progression and melody of your next single should be.


Originally Posted by JoesC5 (Post 1582661606)
I traded my 98 C5(original MSRP of ~$40,000) in on a 2009 C6 Z06 in July 2008. I got $17,500 trade in(that's ~44% of the 98's new cost). Dealer then sold my C5 on his used car lot for $21,600(~53%).

Mileage and condition have a significant impact on used Corvette prices. I'm sure we can find specific examples to support either side, but any categorical statement about what C7's styling will do to C6's resale value is just drama and we all know it.

.Jinx

jr3 12-26-2012 05:49 PM

1-13-13 :cheers:

PRicanC6Xpress 12-26-2012 06:05 PM

Not easy....
 

Originally Posted by jr3 (Post 1582662352)
1-13-13 :cheers:

Hard to wait.... Better be a good wait...

LS1LT1 12-26-2012 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.

That's exactly what I would suspect that someone wanting to justify or rationalize their purchase and/or trying hard to overcome their buyer's remorse would say LOL. :D ;)

Not that there is anything wrong at all with buying and thoroughly enjoying a C6 Grand Sport (or any C6 for that matter) right now. :cool:

WHT 12-26-2012 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by *C7* (Post 1582661179)
I'll agree with you on the sitting on the lots for a long time, but it is not the C7s that will be sitting.

Hint! Hint!

Sell your C6 GS NOW and avoid the rush..........:thumbs::thumbs:

I wouldn't be so sure. The C6 will be the last of the real Corvettes for many performance oriented owners who like to modify their cars and/or run them as they were intended. A steel frame can last forever. All aluminum frames will eventually crack.

The C7 will have an aluminum frame and considerable magnesium parts in an attempt to remove weight at the expense of long term durability (see how much aluminum frame repair costs or how fast magnesium structural parts age). It also has an engine that will be difficult to modify due to its more complex design and most likely will have teething problems surface during the first several years. Not to mention that GM has made it almost impossible to modify the power train without voiding your warranty with a new highly integrated electrical/computer system (GM will know how the car is driven and who is naughty and who is nice). Welcome to the 21st Century. :cheers:

MHFontaine 12-26-2012 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by TOBASCO (Post 1582662141)

My guess is that the vast majority of long term Vette enthusiasts will have a C7 sometime in their garage in the future.

:D:thumbs::D

:iagree:

When the C5 was introduced, I hated it...the butt was too big (I've owned 2 of them). When the C6 was introduced, many hated it...no pop up head lights (I've owned 3 of them). Now the C7 is about to be here...oh, that rear end again! I wonder how many C7s I'll own before the C8 comes out :D

1/13 can't get here soon enough :cheers:

keeks2915 12-26-2012 06:44 PM

Just for arguments sake..... If you modify your car and then something goes wrong with the car, whose responsibility is it?

Are you suggesting GM should honor a warranty on a car that you tinkered with?

You do realize that every time that happens the aggregate price for the new cars build that cost in, meaning your "mods" ultimately increase the cost of the car in the future?

Jinx 12-26-2012 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by WHT (Post 1582662702)
I wouldn't be so sure. The C6 will be the last of the real Corvettes for many performance oriented owners who like to modify their cars and/or run them as they were intended.

The 71s were the last of the real Corvettes; emissions regulations ruined everything.

The 82s were the last of the real Corvettes; all those computers ruined everything. And OMG fuel injection. And OMG OBD-II. And OMG direct injection.

The truth is we lose some folks and pick up some folks with every change, and Corvette remains as real as it can be and faster and better-handling and more reliable than ever.

And the truth is that Big Brother doesn't take everything at once; he just asks you to give a little more.


Originally Posted by MHFontaine (Post 1582662706)
When the C5 was introduced, I hated it...the butt was too big (I've owned 2 of them). When the C6 was introduced, many hated it...no pop up head lights (I've owned 3 of them). Now the C7 is about to be here...oh, that rear end again! I wonder how many C7s I'll own before the C8 comes out :D

1/13 can't get here soon enough :cheers:

I like the way you think.

mnfmkf 12-26-2012 07:02 PM

Aluminun frame ? :hide:

Magnesium parts ? :hide:

More complicated engine electronics / mechanicals ? :willy::willy:

Camaro styling ?.. :woohoo:

Whats good about this ? :ack:

If I could afforld one I would still wait to see how this all pans out.

This is GM we are talking about here. :willy:

BluegrassMotorsport 12-26-2012 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.

:beatdeadhorse:

B-Myster 12-26-2012 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by keeks2915 (Post 1582662713)
Just for arguments sake..... If you modify your car and then something goes wrong with the car, whose responsibility is it?

Are you suggesting GM should honor a warranty on a car that you tinkered with?

You do realize that every time that happens the aggregate price for the new cars build that cost in, meaning your "mods" ultimately increase the cost of the car in the future?

So hypothetically if I remove the back seats from my new C7 and accidentally tear one of the front seats in the process, will GM fix it for free? :D

rcallen484 12-26-2012 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by mnfmkf (Post 1582662840)
Aluminun frame ? :hide:

Magnesium parts ? :hide:

More complicated engine electronics / mechanicals ? :willy::willy:

Camaro styling ?.. :woohoo:

Whats good about this ? :ack:

If I could afforld one I would still wait to see how this all pans out.

This is GM we are talking about here. :willy:

Yep. The same outfit that built your pride and joy :rock: :rock: :rock:

rcallen484 12-26-2012 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by B-Myster (Post 1582662963)
So hypothetically if I remove the back seats from my new C7 and accidentally tear one of the front seats in the process, will GM fix it for free? :D

Did you tear it because of the fixed roof or the exterior spare tire mount?

98am 12-26-2012 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.

I think not, they will sell plenty.

SCM_Crash 12-26-2012 07:44 PM

I want my click back.

The OP stinks of opinion interjected with a false reality and lack of market understanding.

TC233 12-26-2012 08:09 PM

The new C7 will be like the New Apple Iphone. The fanatics will want one ASAP. Then there will be backorders for the fully loaded version and by the time those people get their cars we will know whether its going to be good or not. I personally would take one in a heartbeat "pun intended". New, loaded, clean, new car smell, and gadgets...gotta have gadgets.

WHT 12-26-2012 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Jinx (Post 1582662809)
The 71s were the last of the real Corvettes; emissions regulations ruined everything.

The 82s were the last of the real Corvettes; all those computers ruined everything. And OMG fuel injection. And OMG OBD-II. And OMG direct injection.

The truth is we lose some folks and pick up some folks with every change, and Corvette remains as real as it can be and faster and better-handling and more reliable than ever.

And the truth is that Big Brother doesn't take everything at once; he just asks you to give a little more.



I like the way you think.



All of the Corvettes before the C7 were durable and could be easily modified by owners (there are some doubts if the C3 was actually a Corvette :)). Some have estimated that 90 to 95% of all Corvettes not destroyed in accidents can still be driven. I doubt those numbers will hold for the C7 20 years from now. And this time, big brother is taking it all at once.

rcallen484 12-26-2012 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by WHT (Post 1582663463)
All of the Corvettes before the C7 were durable and could be easily modified by owners (there are some doubts if the C3 was actually a Corvette :)). Some have estimated that 90 to 95% of all Corvettes not destroyed in accidents can still be driven. I doubt those numbers will hold for the C7 20 years from now. And this time, big brother is taking it all at once.

The point of what he is saying is that is what we felt like every step of the way. My '67 Camaro had zero emissions equipment, my '68 had an air pump. That was HUGE back then. Every time, however, technology soon proved our fears unfounded.

B-Myster 12-26-2012 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by rcallen484 (Post 1582663049)
Did you tear it because of the fixed roof or the exterior spare tire mount?

I got distracted by my neighbor asking how I like the all wheel drive and I slipped.:D

usroute66 MKW 12-26-2012 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by WHT (Post 1582663463)
All of the Corvettes before the C7 were durable and could be easily modified by owners (there are some doubts if the C3 was actually a Corvette :)). Some have estimated that 90 to 95% of all Corvettes not destroyed in accidents can still be driven. I doubt those numbers will hold for the C7 20 years from now. And this time, big brother is taking it all at once.


As the average new C7 buyer will be just about 80 years old in your 20 years hence timeline , these concerns you raise will be the least of their worries in the year 2033 !

ghostRder 12-26-2012 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.

:iagree:

rage793 12-26-2012 08:39 PM

Ive check with some local dealers in CO and they already have fairly long list for the C7's. So I to doubt they will sit on the lots.

*C7* 12-26-2012 08:53 PM

The C7 will be hands down the best Corvette ever built. Period.

It is pretty simple to figure these things out. :thumbs::thumbs:

Jinx 12-26-2012 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by rcallen484 (Post 1582663049)
Did you tear it because of the fixed roof or the exterior spare tire mount?

The hump in the floor for the second driveshaft to send power back to the front wheels.


Originally Posted by WHT (Post 1582663463)
All of the Corvettes before the C7 were durable and could be easily modified by owners (there are some doubts if the C3 was actually a Corvette :)). Some have estimated that 90 to 95% of all Corvettes not destroyed in accidents can still be driven. I doubt those numbers will hold for the C7 20 years from now. And this time, big brother is taking it all at once.


Originally Posted by rcallen484 (Post 1582663499)
The point of what he is saying is that is what we felt like every step of the way. My '67 Camaro had zero emissions equipment, my '68 had an air pump. That was HUGE back then. Every time, however, technology soon proved our fears unfounded.

Thank you rcallen484. That's right.

Every generation says the end is near -- things are going straight to hell, and soon.

When you point this out, the current generation's straight-faced response is always, "but this time it's true!"

Don't turn a blind eye to change, but don't let your proximity to a particular change exaggerate its significance.

.Jinx
Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat

SCM_Crash 12-26-2012 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by *C7* (Post 1582663801)
The C7 will be hands down the best Corvette ever built. Period.

It is pretty simple to figure these things out. :thumbs::thumbs:

I don't know this for sure, but I certainly expect it. :thumbs:

JustinStrife 12-26-2012 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.

You've been a member on this forum for 2 whole months, and this is the kind of thread you made? Really?

SCM_Crash 12-26-2012 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by JustinStrife (Post 1582664371)
You've been a member on this forum for 2 whole months, and this is the kind of thread you made? Really?

Nope. Nope... Not even 2 whole months... 4 days until it's 2 months. :D

Raitzi 12-26-2012 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by JustinStrife (Post 1582664371)
You've been a member on this forum for 2 whole months, and this is the kind of thread you made? Really?

Ignorance ->Panic -> Thread to bash C7 before release.

LawrenceFromTorrance 12-26-2012 11:18 PM

I wonder what new features will be in the black box?

SCM_Crash 12-26-2012 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by LawrenceFromTorrance (Post 1582664856)
I wonder what new features will be in the black box?

All of them.

stillcrazy 12-27-2012 03:07 AM


Originally Posted by rcallen484 (Post 1582662096)
It is sad and comical all at the same time. I love my 2011 C6. I will love my C6 just as much on 1-14-13, no matter what is revealed 1-13-13. In the meantime, I am driving and will continue to drive a Corvette.

AMEN brother,I hope it does sell well even with this economy,personally I donīt like the rear. But thats not a problem cause I got mine and Love to drive it and will love to drive it come 1/13/13.:flag:

MeatPunch 12-27-2012 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.

Man your C6's value is going to tank quicker than Bear Sterns stock did back in '08. Why would you buy one right before the next more awesome model is going to be revealed? So many people will be selling their old antique C6's right away to buy the C7, the market will be saturated, it would be a buyers market for sure.

bladex10 12-27-2012 05:35 AM

Op is made because his car is going to fall in value before he even gets 1000 miles on it.

SCM_Crash 12-27-2012 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by stillcrazy (Post 1582665667)
AMEN brother,I hope it does sell well even with this economy,personally I donīt like the rear. But thats not a problem cause I got mine and Love to drive it and will love to drive it come 1/13/13.:flag:

Pretty sure the economy is doing a lot better than it was when the C6 came out. Things are actually looking up.

(Not trying to start a political war.)

Either way, unemployment is down, jobs are up. The C7 should sell pretty well, actually. I'm going to bet it sells better than the C6 on account of the economy for both generations.

I also think this is the first time we're going to see a huge surge in younger buyers. Maybe not because GM is marketing to a younger crowd, but possibly because there's a younger demographic making more money today than they did 5-8 years ago.


Originally Posted by bladex10 (Post 1582665801)
Op is made because his car is going to fall in value before he even gets 1000 miles on it.

Oh, that's no surprise. The moment you drive any car off the lot it drops drastically in value.

But I genuinely hope nobody's buying a Corvette for its resale value. LOL

That's why I drive the sh!t out of my Z06. It's not going to be worth anymore than I bought it for any time soon. Maybe in 20 years from now it will be worth something... if we're still around... and gasoline is still around.

Corvette03051 12-27-2012 06:44 AM

C7
 
If I had the $ why wouldn't I buy a C7? It is obvious that it has at least many changes including a better interior. It would be fun to own a next gen Corvette at worst.

6 Shooter 12-27-2012 07:02 AM

Lots of haters...
 
:toetap:

Suns_PSD 12-27-2012 07:33 AM

Let's see the new C7 is going to have:

- notably better mpg
- smaller outer dimensions
- larger interior dimension
- lighter weight
- no endemic head/ valve problems
- and interior that is so much improved that it can't be stated enough
- the newest design, which I love so far
- faster lap times than a comparable equipped C6 and likely close to the C6Z
- all for under $60K
- cooled seats
- flex fuel capability
- etc

When a car comes out that the $60K base model is superior in almost every way to the outgoing $75K tarted up model, your probably going to see your tarted up model lose a lot of resale value. And btw, 'Ring times are not the only determining factor for a street car's superiority, even one that sees track duty. Only a child would think that. If all you care about is lap times, buy a $13K ZX10R liter bike and spank any car by 10 seconds a lap while getting 45 mpg on your daily commute.

Anyways, don't buy a car for an investment, buy it for enjoyment. And if you enjoy your C6 more power to ya. No need to foo-foo the new model that some of us are very excited to obtain.

As far as the above stated resale values of Vettes: Sorry but 10 year old cars w/ low mileage shouldn't be used in a resale analysis. Either way, if you did less than 50K miles in 10 years in your car, your cost per mile was actually pretty high for the standard 10 years ago. While it's true that the longer one keeps their car, the less per mile they lose, I don't know many car enthusuasts that can bear to run the same car for 10+ years.

OBSSSD 12-27-2012 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by trading tiger (Post 1582660874)
Thank God I bought a C6 GS last month. Those C7's are going to be sitting on the lots for a long time and the C6's are going to sell like hotcakes.

Agreed what a huge disappointment :iagree:

Paulchristian 12-27-2012 12:11 PM

if the C7 doesn't sell well, it will only be because of this ****** economy. However, I am sure all the folks making the camaro comparisons will say it's not selling becasue it has camaro lights...

Jinx 12-27-2012 12:18 PM

When exactly are the C6s going to start selling like hotcakes? Who will start buying them?

JustinStrife 12-27-2012 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jinx (Post 1582667837)
When exactly are the C6s going to start selling like hotcakes? Who will start buying them?

:iagree::iagree:

tuxnharley 12-27-2012 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Jinx (Post 1582667837)
When exactly are the C6s going to start selling like hotcakes? Who will start buying them?


Who buys hotcakes...............? :D

BeaZt 12-27-2012 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Jinx (Post 1582667837)
When exactly are the C6s going to start selling like hotcakes? Who will start buying them?

Good question, because they are sitting around here on the lots with deep deep discounts and nobody is buying them liek "hotcakes" and since some of our forum brothers say that C6's are going to fly off lots and all.......when is it going to start happening?:hide:

rob62 12-27-2012 01:04 PM

So howsa bout that 2014 silverado??!!??

BMadden 12-27-2012 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by 1320vetteran (Post 1582668132)
Good question, because they are sitting around here on the lots with deep deep discounts and nobody is buying them liek "hotcakes" and since some of our forum brothers say that C6's are going to fly off lots and all.......when is it going to start happening?:hide:

It's not. There are 2 Grand Sport coupes at my local dealer with $70k price tags that have literally been sitting there for months. They didn't move when the weather was good and we weren't less than a month away from the new generation being revealed so I don't see a reason for them to start "selling like hotcakes" now.

texvette2 12-27-2012 01:12 PM

They will sell, but looking more and more like the rest of the crowd, will
have more competition

rdroe 12-27-2012 01:13 PM

BUT, those of us that are not in the C7 price universe, and are in the *I don't want Camaro lights* camp, will probably take our bag of money in the late winter, and make-a-deal on the C6 of our dreams! :-)

That's my plan! C6 in the stable with my 82 - C3. YES!

texvette2 12-27-2012 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by rob62 (Post 1582668172)
So howsa bout that 2014 silverado??!!??

you mean the Silverado F250

Revette 12-27-2012 01:29 PM

If that concept photo is truely what the back end of the new C7 looks like...what an ugly, cheap looking automobile. Since I've been a fan/owner of Corvettes since their inception I may have a jaded opinion so as a test I just had my wife come and look at that picture (she owns our C6) and her first comment was, "it looks like a Camero, I don't know if I could warm up to that".

rcallen484 12-27-2012 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by 1320vetteran (Post 1582668132)
Good question, because they are sitting around here on the lots with deep deep discounts and nobody is buying them liek "hotcakes" and since some of our forum brothers say that C6's are going to fly off lots and all.......when is it going to start happening?:hide:

We all hope they do as soon as possible. Every true car enthusiast without a modern performance automobile doesn't know the grins and giggles they are missing--- all in a fully reliable and relatively economical package. The more money GM makes on the C6s, the more they can put into the C7s. :rock: :rock: :rock:

Vasta 12-27-2012 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by LawrenceFromTorrance (Post 1582661105)
Let's see
1) More HP
2) Better fuel economy
3) Better interior
4) Better dash
5) Fresh new style
Yah, you're right they won't sell any all all:ack:

Thank you.

BeaZt 12-27-2012 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by rcallen484 (Post 1582668357)
We all hope they do as soon as possible. Every true car enthusiast without a modern performance automobile doesn't know the grins and giggles they are missing--- all in a fully reliable and relatively economical package. The more money GM makes on the C6s, the more they can put into the C7s. :rock: :rock: :rock:

They sell enough trucks to tow the C7 line:flag:

rob62 12-27-2012 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by texvette2 (Post 1582668239)
you mean the Silverado F250

yeah,not very happy with that grill.

FrankLP 12-27-2012 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by tuxnharley (Post 1582667994)
Who buys hotcakes...............? :D

Dealer special...a free plate of hotcakes with every C6 purchase! :D


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