Originally Posted by McGirk94LT1
(Post 1581357395)
100% they can improve the quality of the seats. 2 of the best seats I've ever sat in AND were GM products are the GTO's and the later c4's(who I just recently found out the seats were designed and made by Lear). Any company can put good seats in a car, its just a matter of trying. I know the torque tube tunnel being too wide seems to come up a lot, but I've seen at least a few guys swap viper seats into their c5's. Excellent sport seats can happen, and I think it's finally expected this time around.
Best regards, ...z |
Speaking of interiors, I was around 9 years old when I sat in a 68 Corvette . Well I am still at loss for words.. Ferraris and Lambos interiors paled in comparison . C3's interiors can still hold their own.
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The lines may be that same somewhat however, you can still tell that its a vette and the ferrari is the ferrari. Renderings are just that and not the final outcome of the production model. I had visited the local dealer before even looking at this rendering.
The dealership owner was at hand here in Texas and made tha following statement> 2013 GM is bringing back the Z06 as previously offered back in C5 versions eliminating the hatch back style like the Grand Sport, the new Z06 will look just like the convertable however, as a hardtop other body lines will be very similiar except for a few slight changes to the front-end. The Z06 may even be available in a removable hard top version. Coupe (Z06) Hatch Back Conv. Are the models that will be available. |
Originally Posted by Wire5150
(Post 1581393449)
2013 GM is bringing back the Z06 as previously offered back in C5 versions eliminating the hatch back style like the Grand Sport, the new Z06 will look just like the convertable however, as a hardtop other body lines will be very similiar except for a few slight changes to the front-end.
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
(Post 1581393988)
The coupe configuration provides a great deal of useable space for me. I also like its body lines. The convertible is, well, it is a convertible. I see nothing good about a non-hatchback hard top but have no problem whatsoever if that is what someone else wants.
For one thing, it's lighter than the hatchback version since it uses less glass and less hardware. It also lowers the center of gravity. Eh, but that only improves performance, so nevermind. I've heard this argument about a great deal of "useable" space before and it makes me wonder how many of them have ever actually loaded up the trunk of a C5 FRC/Z06? It has a lot more cargo space than you probably realize. Besides, what exactly do you stuff in your hatchback that can't fit in a trunk? A lawnmower? One extra dead Vegas hooker? ... umm not that I've tried that or anything. :leaving: In any case, I'm sure that you have nothing to worry about. They'll continue making a hatchback version of the Corvette. The pack-rats would throw a fit otherwise. Although, if the renderings are accurate, it won't have the same wrapped-glass greenhouse design that's been used continually since the late 1970's. It'll be interesting to see how well that change is received by the traditionalists. |
Originally Posted by vant
(Post 1581395109)
It's too bad that you can't see anything good about the non-hatchback hardtop.
For one thing, it's lighter than the hatchback version since it uses less glass and less hardware. It also lowers the center of gravity. Eh, but that only improves performance, so nevermind. I've heard this argument about a great deal of "useable" space before and it makes me wonder how many of them have ever actually loaded up the trunk of a C5 FRC/Z06? It has a lot more cargo space than you probably realize. Besides, what exactly do you stuff in your hatchback that can't fit in a trunk? A lawnmower? One extra dead Vegas hooker? ... umm not that I've tried that or anything. :leaving: In any case, I'm sure that you have nothing to worry about. They'll continue making a hatchback version of the Corvette. The pack-rats would throw a fit otherwise. Although, if the renderings are accurate, it won't have the same wrapped-glass greenhouse design that's been used continually since the late 1970's. It'll be interesting to see how well that change is received by the traditionalists. |
I, for one, really like the FRC body. To my senses, it is one of the best looking Corvettes ever produced. :yesnod:
I would enjoy having one today, but not sure about dropping back six years, and a lot more miles on the clock. :cheers: |
Originally Posted by jackhall99
(Post 1581395390)
I, for one, really like the FRC body. To my senses, it is one of the best looking Corvettes ever produced. :yesnod:
I would enjoy having one today, but not sure about dropping back six years, and a lot more miles on the clock. :cheers: Best regards, ...z |
Originally Posted by ZeekDuff
(Post 1581395441)
I'd like to see a retractible hardtop like the Ferrari California & others, it's been so hot here, I have to keep the top up during the day or bake. Be nice to have a tighter fit, then more easily drop it in the evening for fresh, cool air... :thumbs:
Best regards, ...z I believe the FRC is truly attractive. The body style would be readily adaptable to a retractable hardtop, ala the style of the Miata. :cheers: |
Originally Posted by John T
(Post 1581359496)
Speaking of interiors, I was around 9 years old when I sat in a 68 Corvette . Well I am still at loss for words.. Ferraris and Lambos interiors paled in comparison . C3's interiors can still hold their own.
John, SO TRUE. I had a 72 and loved the instrumentation. Two big pods in front of driver and a great gauge cluster in the center stack. It was so cool at night. |
Originally Posted by vant
(Post 1581395109)
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I've heard this argument about a great deal of "useable" space before and it makes me wonder how many of them have ever actually loaded up the trunk of a C5 FRC/Z06? It has a lot more cargo space than you probably realize. Besides, what exactly do you stuff in your hatchback that can't fit in a trunk? A lawnmower? One extra dead Vegas hooker? ... umm not that I've tried that or anything. :leaving: ........ Of course I was a young single guy when I had the 90 (got it in 89). When I had the 2001 I was married and we had an SUV to go along with it. So my need for something that could carry something that boxy was elimnated. The FRC/Convertible styly trunk does work for every one all the time. You could rent a truck for that 2 days a year that you needed to haul something. Most people have "friend" they could borrow a truck from. |
Originally Posted by jackhall99
(Post 1581395602)
the style of the Miata.
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Originally Posted by ZeekDuff
(Post 1581395441)
I'd like to see a retractible hardtop like the Ferrari California & others, it's been so hot here, I have to keep the top up during the day or bake. Be nice to have a tighter fit, then more easily drop it in the evening for fresh, cool air... :thumbs:
Best regards, ...z |
Originally Posted by vant
(Post 1581395109)
It's too bad that you can't see anything good about the non-hatchback hardtop.
For one thing, it's lighter than the hatchback version since it uses less glass and less hardware. It also lowers the center of gravity. Eh, but that only improves performance, so nevermind. I've heard this argument about a great deal of "useable" space before and it makes me wonder how many of them have ever actually loaded up the trunk of a C5 FRC/Z06? It has a lot more cargo space than you probably realize. The hardtop's one advantage was its stiffness, combined with all hardtop were z51's to boot. Since the z06 zr1 were fixed roofs, it had all the advantages of the c5z but retained the fastback's room. The quick drop off window of the c5z is actually worse for aerodynamics(but that hurts performance so lets add it right? ). Thus, saying there's gonna be a c5 style fixed roof coupe is a bunch of nonsense. It makes no sense to take a step back. Myself, I like em, but I think I'd take a fastback if given the choice between identical frc and z51 targa. |
Yeah just with a plastic interior
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I agree on the FRC holding power is greater however, the FRC is not a preferred choice. I for one only drive my vette for pure enjoyment and not as an everyday driver limiting the milage I place on it.
I definately wouldn't go loading it up with grocery and LCD TV's.........lmao With the newer versions they have improved the appearance of them in the areas of stremlined. |
Originally Posted by Wire5150
(Post 1581398531)
I agree on the FRC holding power is greater however, the FRC is not a preferred choice. I for one only drive my vette for pure enjoyment and not as an everyday driver limiting the milage I place on it.
I definately wouldn't go loading it up with grocery and LCD TV's.........lmao |
Originally Posted by Wire5150
(Post 1581398531)
I agree on the FRC holding power is greater however, the FRC is not a preferred choice. I for one only drive my vette for pure enjoyment and not as an everyday driver limiting the milage I place on it.
I definately wouldn't go loading it up with grocery and LCD TV's.........lmao With the newer versions they have improved the appearance of them in the areas of stremlined. I drive it to the grocery store, Home Depot, and the nursery (plants, not the kid's room upstairs). People are constantly amazed at what we can get in the back of that thing! The one big loading problem is long items like poles and ladders. The flat trunk opening means you can't just lay in a long rigid item. |
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Originally Posted by McGirk94LT1
(Post 1581397552)
Uh, what?!? Apples to apples, the hardtop c5 weighs a couple pounds less then a c5 coupe.
More like 75 lbs for the FRC and 125 lbs for the Z06. Just saying. Keep in mind, didn't the hardtop at least originally not come with fog lights and a couple other things? Compare them option to option and its not nearly a big enough difference to make a fuss about. Now had they put cloth seats and cut some other things like originally planed, yeah, it might have been a big deal. Dunno. I’m sure you’re right. But I was only focusing on the weight of the glass, hatch and related hardware, not the total weight of each car. Lowers center of gravity?!? Yeah, because the glass on the coupe is so tall that it takes a toll on handling... Yup. Why else would track enthusiasts swap out the rear glass with lexan? Remember, it’s not just the weight itself that matters, but the location as well. The farther away you are from the center of gravity, the more you affect the dynamic characteristics of that body. If you can reduce the weight in that location by half, it can be significant. The c5z was lighter because of all the other weight saving measures that had nothing to do with being a hardtop. So the deletion of hardware, hinges, supporting structural elements for the targa and hatch and of course the smaller pane of glass couldn’t possibly have contributed to the C5Z’s reduction in overall weight? Are you sure about that? The hardtop's one advantage was its stiffness, combined with all hardtop were z51's to boot. Since the z06 zr1 were fixed roofs, it had all the advantages of the c5z but retained the fastback's room. The quick drop off window of the c5z is actually worse for aerodynamics(but that hurts performance so lets add it right? ). You’re correct. But do you know to what degree it really affects the aero? Not nearly as much as some people seem to believe. Thus, saying there's gonna be a c5 style fixed roof coupe is a bunch of nonsense. It makes no sense to take a step back. Finally, something that I can really agree with. But then again, I wasn’t the one who made that claim. Myself, I like em, but I think I'd take a fastback if given the choice between identical frc and z51 targa. Fair enough. |
Originally Posted by CaryKen
(Post 1581398776)
...can't just lay in a long rigid item.
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