C7 video, more of the same.
 

This is fantastic really. Nice to see it in motion, and hear a little bit of the exhaust. If that was a base model, then the exhaust sounds more aggressive than the current base model. And OMG! LED taillights! It's about dang time!

Now back to the waiting game...

Any one else notice it looks like it has fixed mount calipers? :thumbs: Wonder if the base car is even going away from the slide rails.....

Is there a mirror somewhere? The video won't play for me for some reason.

such teasing and yet so much waiting :(

Don't get too excited about those taillights. They are likely temporary units. Review the Camaro development history and note that the headlights and taillights were just cribbed together units until very late in the process.

Those headlight pods (beneath the covers) probably aren't final either.

.Jinx

I believe in Summer, we will see the c7 on the Nurburgring testing, just a guess.

You can just about bet on it, provided that the 'Ring hasn't gone under by then.

Wtf? A C6 shrouded in black camo wrap would look pretty much the same. A bit mundane after all that's been said about major changes and global appeal. I guess they must have been talking about those radical LED tail lights.

Wow.

looks like they dropped both the pbr floating calipers and the pbr monoblocks that the gs and z06 use. The front calipers look a lot like brembo gt 6 piston and the rears look like the gt 4 piston.

All, what do you think a Corvette spokesman (assuming this was an official quote and not an internet rumor echoing) means by "global appeal"? Seems like pretty generic marketing spin.

Corvette already has world-class performance. Under all that camo it does appear to be very C6-like. The Euro media seems to bang the C6 for substandard interior feel ("too much plastic" "rental car knobs & switches") and squishy plastic bumpers. Is there something else?

Cheers,
JB

I am trying to see if the front tires are pulling at all, can't tell.

:(:ack:

No, I'm not referencing internet buzz and rumor. GM said they want more international sales and that they want to appeal to a younger buyer. That could mean a significantly different design and appearance. After all, if the current car met those objectives there would be no reason to change it.

I'm still not convinced we're seeing the real deal here though. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Damn, that thing sure look stretched out/long with a really long wheelbase. :nonod:
Can't really tell for sure with all of that camouflage of course but still, I like my sports cars smaller sort of like the C2s/early C4s/C6s, not big/long like the C3s.

that car does "appear" longer and narrower than the C6. Then again it could just be the camo.

Longer wheelbase = better performance handling wise, porsche shrinked their carrera width wise and lengthened it. I agree though i like a shorter car as well, but we can only wait and see.

I agree, but they've already done it TWICE since the C4, we don't need a 'limousine length' type of wheelbase on a two seat sports car LOL. :D

i would not be supprised if that bodywork was not the final production build, they were just testing the running gear, in the cold they can test the body in a cold test chamber ???

Couldn't agree more, the c6 already has a long look any longer and narrower will look weird. Hence why I love my slammed c5 z06, although a Slammed c6z just looks jaw dropping.

Here are some screen captures:

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image...otype_rear.jpg

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image...otype_side.jpg

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image...pe_quarter.jpg

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/image...type_front.jpg

I disagree...look at how the fenders sit perfectly where they are supposed to as opposed to the earlier C6 mule which had a substantial offset both in the front and rear. Like it or not, this is the C7 with actual body panels.

I already responded to this on Facebook, but ... No Way this series of videos were "captured" while the car was out testing. This video was made available intentionally by GM to try to stem some of the negative publicity that's coming from this site and others concerning the LETDOWN of this C7. I don't think it worked though, as that side profile of the car is even more ghastly than first thought. That front end is longer than the hood of '74 Lincoln! The wheels/tires appear to all be the same size with no staggering.

No feeling of being "LETDOWN" here. I'm feeling very optimistic about this car.

http://homepage.mac.com/platinumcreative/VetteBK.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/platinumcreative/VetteWT.jpg

I never really looked at being blind as something that could have benefits. I guess you learn something new every day. I'm sure your guide dog is cute too.

I have to say, the whole car, bumper to bumper, sucks compared to the stingray concept, but the part that sucks the hardest, by far, is that abominable, eye-clawing rear end. Please, for the love of God, get those tail-lights off there. We've already had to put up with years of bitching from Euro-fans that our cars have the same steering wheel as a Cobalt. What do you think it will do to the international appeal if it has the same back end as a Camaro?

So... this means you won't be buying one?

Nice! :thumbs:

Cheers, :cheers:
JB

Holding off final judgement until the camo comes off and a production intent car is unveiled. To think any other way is stupid. It's like trying to tell if a girl is hot while she's wearing a full body cast.

:iagree:

the rear end of the c6 is the best looking of any corvette if not any other car out there. With the C7 they screwed up the nice curvy shape and then added ugly tail lights that are totally different from the corvette tradition. The that huge rear valence just takes that bad idea and makes it even worse...

FYI "longer wheelbase" does not automatically mean "better handling". A longer wheelbase makes a car ride better by soaking up road imperfections/movements better; the car doesn't "teeter totter" as much. It also increases high speed stability, but at the expense of quick transitions. A car with a shorter wheelbase is more tossable. The idea is to find the right mix for your intended use. You wouldn't want to auto-x a long wheelbase car just as you wouldn't want to run open road racing (Silver State Classic) or the Texas Mile in a short wheelbase car.

I'm with you.

ugly:ack:
GM still poor:toetap:

I like it. As importantly, my wife says: It's a gorgeous car; I want one."

This car will be awesome guaranteed! If you could drive this car today, I don't think any of you would pass up on the offer. Just to sweet of a ride!

Is it just me, or does it look like there's way too much "nose" ahead of the front wheels?

Just seems like a lot of front-end overhang, more so than the C6.

Whatever. Looks like a C6 to me under there.

:iagree:
Just like the C5 in C4 clothing. I am betting this is not close to the final body design. I will bet it will be more like the NSX layout but retaining the front engine. Push the windshield way forward, the interior way forward and keep it from looking awkward by adding the rear quarter window. Just my .02 which isn't worth a plug nickel.

Hmmm, this long wheelbase could be a view of things to come. Could be a number of Corvette models and they may even have one AWD version like this...
http://www.classicdriver.com/upload/...i_FF_04pop.jpg
Ferrari AWD with over 208 mph speed.

Are you being sarcastic?

Not a bit. They want to expand the Corvette audience to Euro drivers, not live in the past. Why not have ONE model that is AWD?

Are you suggesting that Porsche and Ferrari don't know what they are doing? The FF is an amazing car and their AWD system is something that added very little weight.

Interesting! No one said anything about the price. It could be the best looking, best handling automobile in the world, but if the price is sky high it might as well be a Chevette.

Enzo Ferrari turns in his grave every single time an AWD Ferrari leaves the showroom. That should have never happened. Porsche is a different story, their AWD is fine.

It has been discussed a thousand times before here, but I don't see the Corvette ever becoming AWD. It just doesn't make sense.

Why doesn't it make sense to make ONE model AWD? It will happen some day, and all you got to do is look at the GTR, the Ferrari, the Porsche, the Audi and lots of other AWD racing-quality cars to see that.

I would suggest that they will NEVER grow their audience in europe if they don't do it. They won't be able to sell it for the same price point as the two wheel drive model. It will have to be far more expensive.

You could have actually stopped there lol. No matter how fast the Corvette becomes, no matter how luxurious its interior feels, no matter how its price increases or decreases, no matter how great it becomes, the Corvette will never appeal to many European buyers. That is just how it is. That is why AWD is likely to never happen. Chevrolet are far more concerned with beating European cars than they are with attracting European buyers. And currently, they are succeeding with that goal.

There is always that small chance that it could happen. Of course, there is a small chance that anything could happen.

Reminds me of the old Datsun 240Z.

They may be beating it in some market spaces but clearly not in others. I want to see them FINALLY bring out an AWD Corvette because I think it would STOMP so many of those other cars because it would FINALLY put so much more of it's huge power to the ground!

:( :yawn:

Ok, NOW we might be getting somewhere. :thumbs:
I think I could own/drive something like that as long as it's performance matches (or even exceeds) it's looks. :yesnod: :cool:

:iagree:





The cheaper of the AWD Porsches and Nissan GTRs are nearly $100k cars. The better performing Porsche Turbo S is roughly $160k.
Are YOU going to pay nearly $100k+ for a base model Corvette?
Nissan GTRs also weigh 3900 pounds. :nonod:
I don't want a 3900 pound (or even a 3600 pound) Corvette that also cost more than it needed to.





Wait, so ALL Europeans have suddenly STOPPED buying any and all RWD Porsches/BMWs/Ferraris?:confused2:
They DO still sell those (and PLENTY of them) too ya know. ;)





That's just it, adding an entirely different/new model adds SUBSTANTIAL costs. They HAVE TO sell lots of them to justify it otherwise it cannot and will not be approved by the bean counters and can ultimately hurt (and drive the prices up on) the other RWD C7 models if/when the AWD model fails.
I hear what you're saying and you do make some very valid points, :yesnod: but in light of the current economic climate worldwide and the somewhat recent gyrations within GM itself, it's probably just too big of a risk.

:iagree: But I've mentioned it in other threads. Cost is definitely a factor but historically speaking, GM/Chevrolet WILL NOT raise the base MSRP price of a new generation Corvette by a radical amount. The current base price of a C6 is $49k, for 2013 the final C6 might list for just over $50k so they can get the public used to the idea of base price that cracks that $50k+ barrier. That will of course allow them to raise the base price of the brand new 2014 model by a decent amount but if the outgoing C6 is $50k/$51k then it's likely that the first C7s will start out at only a $52k/$53k MSRP (before adding any options of course). Any higher than that and I probably won't be buying a new one any time soon, I love my C6 a lot so I will simply hold on to it, wait much longer until the pre-owned C7s start showing up and buy one of those. :)
Of course all of that's only on paper. The reality is that you can get a base C6 for under $43k right now so the true price gap between C6 and C7 will be more like $10k and not only $2k.

>The better performing Porsche Turbo S is roughly $160k.
Are YOU going to pay nearly $100k+ for a base model Corvette?

The WRX-STI and the Evo cost a fraction of what the Corvette costs, and they're just as fast as a base model Corvette with much, much smaller engines. There's absolutely no reason for an AWD system to increase the cost of a base model Corvette by more than, say, $8,000.

Huh?:confused2:
Umm, :hide: no they're not.
In no fantasy world has a bone stock U.S. market Subaru WRX/STi or Mitsubishi Lancer Evo ever run an 11.7 second 1/4 mile at over 119+mph nor hit 190mph top speed.
The base bone stock Corvette LS3 has.
And can one really say that $34k is just a mere fraction of $49k anyway? :confused: It certainly is less though.

Wow, :eek: apparently the 'Gran Tourismo'/Grand Theft Auto'/'Need For Speed' video games really have caused people to twist reality a little bit. :nonod:

Here's a thought, Maybe they lengthed the wheel base to acommadate the AWD system.
Longer wheelbase will help ride quality ( no vibration problems at any speed).
Any way I wont be getting one due to the price, but it will be fun to see the development of it and all the hype.
.
:lurk:

Hmm, possibly.
While I personally do not believe that the car will have AWD as standard or even available, I (nor anyone else not directly affiliated with the engineering/production/marketing of the car) certainly can't rule out the possibility of such either.

Balance (weight distribution), interior/cargo room, curb weight, fuel economy, cost, warranty and even tradition/history/legacy all come into play here.

Even if the car was lengthened to accommodate an AWD system, what practical or otherwise reason is there for this 'Jimmy Durante" nose/front overhang is there? One of the ugliest aspects of the C5 was this ridiculous 24" of extra uncalled for plastic stretching out front of the front wheels. When they whacked that "beak" and that "butt" off the car for the C6 it was a blessing! What reason could there be for the awkward cumbersome design snafu??? Please GM, while there is still time, ... redesign that jutted disproportionate projection that exists out front of the wheels. Taper it in tightly just in front of the front tires with a sexy rolling slope.

I hear they are testing a new V24 engine it that thing. It looks so long in those screen grabs that I think it might snap in half. I just don't get it.

While watching the video I noticed at 1:05 as they are driving it into the garage the rear wheels appear to be spinning faster than a few seconds before. I have lived in northwest Wyoming and can validate that exact wheel spinning action while entering a dry interior space. My Corvette would actually get stuck as I would tip toe into my garage if I didn't maintain my slow constant rate of speed. It would spin just like the view in the video, which means it's certainly not AWD. Any of you living in a snowy winter environment can attest to this. Please chime in if any of you have experienced this as I have.

:iagree:100% :thumbs:

Shorter is better! :yesnod:

:iagree:
I noticed this also.

Long pointed beak is not cool, GM. This shorter overhang is much better .... more aggressive, powerful.

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...ew2460/C7a.jpg
http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...2460/C7b-1.jpg

:iagree:

While the Jalopnik images make the nose look long, from the image below you can see that it is no longer than the current C6, in fact the overall shape of the whole car is virtually the same. The image is the outline from the Jalopnik drawing overlaid on my C6.
This doesn't necessarily mean much since the basic proportions of the Jalopnik images may just be based on the C6 since they may not have had any photos to go by.
Notice that the nose on my C6 looks long too, this is because it is a full side on shot, normally you don't see the C6 completely side like this so the nose normally looks shorter due to it's curvature and due to perspective.
Also notice that the length of the nose varies a lot in the various spy shots depending on the angle of the photo, slightly front on it looks long, slightly from behind it looks short.
I realise too that the C7 may have a slightly longer wheel base which would affect the accuracy of these overlays, but I think they are close enough to demonstrate my point.

http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/...c7onMyc6-1.jpg

Notice how the nose in this spy photo looks short compared to the Jalopnik drawing, due to the angle of the photo.
http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/...r1/c7onSpy.jpg

Taken from the Geneva March 12 autoshow website. Looks like they already have the C7 side mirrors on hand..?

http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/...idemorrors.jpg

http://www.salon-auto.ch/en

Picture of C6 cabrio with "different side mirrors"

I believe those are just the 'Euro spec' C6 mirrors?

When photographed from a normal distance I expect the Jalopnic C7 would like more like this (shorter front and back)
I based the amount of shortening on two photos taken of my C6, one from a normal distance and the other from a long distance.

Now that looks better!

http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/...shortwhite.jpg

Not up to 2011. Maybe 2012 but the resemblance between these mirrors and with jalopnik rendering and the video is very close.

So I went to the Corvette euro site and the mirrors on 12s are the same we have in the US.

I bet you those mirrors in the picture are C7 mirrors..

They are. I saw those on an 'Export' Z06 at Bowling Green in August 2010. They moved the turn signal repeaters off the fender to the mirror. Looked like crap IMO the square mirror didn't go with the lines of the C6.

I disagree, now it look more hideous and similar to a lotus

Ok, count me in. :yesnod:

I wont rule out the fact that anything is possible at this point.
I'm hoping that they will shock the world with the final unveiling though.
Possibly some Stingray concept lines when all is said and done.

Really hoping the dimensions of the C7 are smaller than recent generations, and that Chevy does something about the gi-normous turning radius on modern Corvettes --- So I'm totally in agreement about "smaller is better" for the next-gen...

:iagree:

:U

Is it me or is it lower than a C6? There are many referentials toward the end, when it returns to the garage. They all seem to indicate to me that it's lower. But I could be wrong. :chill:

:iagree:100%

I would also agree with this above. In the pics and the video the front overhang looks way to long. Could be a buffer piece in there to add to the allusion though

A glorified C6....big whoop.

C7 Vette
 

If what is shown in the video is thee car, GM is in trouble ! Rumor has it the new Viper will have a lower priced sibling to compete with the Vette and be using Hemi power and wild stying. If true the corner lock on the market by the Corvette is in trouble !

Viper sold less than 400 in 2010, less than 600 in it's supposed "final" year. I doubt the Corvette team is really worried from a sales numbers standpoint.

I'm hoping so Jinx, to be honest, I don't care for the rear end in the renders, and all we have left of the legacy of the Corvette (visually speaking, that is) are the signature round tail lights - woops...

Let's hope Chevy knows these images are out there and that they are listening to the people. After all, we're what matter most.