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CF Editor 01-05-2012 09:45 PM

Funny cop lets C6 driver off with a warning
 
Ha!
https://www.corvetteforum.com/articl...6-corvette.php

VET4LES 01-05-2012 09:51 PM

Interesting. The camera could have got the driver off. :flag:

SabresFan 01-05-2012 10:00 PM

I was "in a hurry" one day driving down the highway passing other motorists and around the bend, the officer and I made eye contact as he's pointing the radar at me...I was caught...there was no sense in slowing down....but then he gives me the thumbs up and waves....:cheers:

Marc V. 01-05-2012 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by VET4LES (Post 1579657363)
The camera could have got the driver off. :flag:

How?

teenVette 01-06-2012 02:17 AM


Originally Posted by SabresFan (Post 1579657459)
I was "in a hurry" one day driving down the highway passing other motorists and around the bend, the officer and I made eye contact as he's pointing the radar at me...I was caught...there was no sense in slowing down....but then he gives me the thumbs up and waves....:cheers:

:cheers: You got lucky that time

GOLD72 01-06-2012 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by SabresFan (Post 1579657459)
I was "in a hurry" one day driving down the highway passing other motorists and around the bend, the officer and I made eye contact as he's pointing the radar at me...I was caught...there was no sense in slowing down....but then he gives me the thumbs up and waves....:cheers:

Wow!! Your lucky day. LEOs are people too. :D

ben dover 01-06-2012 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by teenVette (Post 1579658886)
:cheers: You got lucky that time

:withstupid:

Mad*Max 01-06-2012 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by SabresFan (Post 1579657459)
I was "in a hurry" one day driving down the highway passing other motorists and around the bend, the officer and I made eye contact as he's pointing the radar at me...I was caught...there was no sense in slowing down....but then he gives me the thumbs up and waves....:cheers:

that too OPP?:thumbs:

azcanuk 01-06-2012 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by GOLD72 (Post 1579659260)
Wow!! Your lucky day. LEOs are people too. :D

Yes they are, and sometimes very understanding of how Vette owners love the thrill of taking it to the road..

Long story short.. pulled over by Sheriff, came to wife’s side of car mad as all he_l, said had been trying to catch me for 19 miles, I was going so fast that when went off his radar had me at xx, I was very polite and not argumentative but disagreed with him about a couple of the things he was telling me... he asked for all my paper work and headed to his car... I looked at the wife and told her my life as I know it was over.. Sheriff came back to the car, handed me the paperwork plus his “ticket”... asked him now what… he bent down, looked into the car, stared me in the eye and said… “nothing, this is just a warning, if you want to drive this fancy car like you did, take it PIR because if you continue to drive like you did on this highway, we will get you”.. smiled, turned and walked back to his car…

BSV2.0 lives on!

Club nickname is Blue Streak. I sold the first “Blue Streak” to another forum member who came up with the BSV1.0 and I inherited BSV2.0… “PIR” is Phoenix International Raceway...

su8pack1 01-06-2012 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by teenVette (Post 1579658886)
:cheers: You got lucky that time

:iagree:

GCasey 01-06-2012 09:44 AM

Yes Sir, No Sir
 
Yes Sir. No Sir. Goes a long way towards a Reasonable resolution.:blueangel:

I had a NY State Trooper say (after several Yes sir, No Sir's)

"If you dispute this ticket, they will simply knock it down to a $20.00 parking ticket" Wink-Wink- Knudge- Knudge.

I did, and they did. One days missed work for the appearance, but much better the a steep fine & points on my Lic !:D

Considering He had me at 18 MPH over the posted limit it could have been a lot worse.

He's doing his job, but still gave me a break ! Hat's off the The NYSP.:flag:

Wayne O 01-06-2012 10:15 AM

I'm glad the guy got a warning but I wouldn't be surprised if the cop told the driver to shutoff the camera. The cops/government like to video you but they don't want you to videotape them. I know of several situations that demonstrate this. Even when it's their video if it supports your case they most often won't release the video to you. Evidently, getting to the truth and justice isn't always important.

Deceptikon 01-06-2012 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Marc V. (Post 1579657504)
How?

The camera shows the large amount of traffic around the vette. The radar gun (if this was used to clock speed) is likley to have clocked the large semi that was in front of the vette. The radar gun picks up on the largest moving object.

pcguy2u 01-06-2012 11:01 AM

I find the vid questionable - like in a video production and not a spontaneous event that just happened by chance???

Just my cynical nature:rofl:

VetteTrpr 01-09-2012 10:30 PM

Wayne O,,,I'm sure given your great legal background, extensive judicial knowledge and your pro law enforcement stance that you are familar with the term "discovery" as it applies to the statutory rules of evidence. Or maybe your just showing your ignorance.

SabresFan 01-10-2012 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by Mad*Max (Post 1579659371)
that too OPP?:thumbs:

Ya, I was surprised that the O-dot gave me a break....probably owns one too. :cheers:

Jerky 01-10-2012 09:23 AM

He touched the car!!!!:willy::willy::willy:

160KTS 01-10-2012 09:44 AM

It definitely didn't look like the car was doing anything hazardous to others (aka passing people in tripple digits, passing on the shoulder etc) and he was going with traffic pretty well even though he was speeding. But when you're just kind of a "minor" breach in the law most of the time if you're cool with the cop he'll be cool with you. Just gotta mind your p's and q's and make sure the cop has no problem seeing your hands as he walks up to the car so he feels safe.

chuck1026 01-10-2012 10:27 AM

What I find disturbing is how it appears that the officer is using the Vette as a VERY EXPENSIVE clipboard. What gives?

https://www.corvetteforum.com/mt-sta...r/010412_2.jpg

:ack::toetap:

Jerky 01-10-2012 02:02 PM

I wonder what would've happened if the driver subsequently pulled out a microfiber towel to wipe off the hand print as soon as the cop took his hand off the car :lol:

MidYearRoadster 01-10-2012 02:47 PM

nothing like and EDITED VIDEO....never saw him speeding or as the cop said..blowing off one of his stipes on his car... All we see is him pulling over like a good little boy....if we are going to be fair around here lets see the whole damn thing....if I were a cop now and someone blew bye me like this guy must have done...I would have written him a citation big time.....if you play you must pay.
Eat or be ett..law of the jungle

Toxiclemonade 01-12-2012 12:17 AM

hahah I knew exactly where you were before I read you were in SC. That is just north of Greenville I think, cooper lighting building? I got pulled there once on the way back to college a few years back, I wasn't so lucky! Nice vid.

Milan 01-12-2012 05:34 PM

Honestly I've had pretty good experiences with police (regarding my car) everywhere except for here in Boise. Cops in the Boise area are horrible....I can't stand them

JKbride 01-12-2012 08:34 PM

I went by a Cobb Co (Metro ATL suburb) officer shooting radar a few weeks ago while in my Vette. As I pass, he smiled and gave me a big thumbs up:thumbs:

I was always taught, when pulled over, roll the window down and "Puppy Dog" both hands out the window. Don't fish for your wallet or anything else in the car.

LEO's never know what they are walking up on, and seeing both of your hands and respect goes a long way. I have been stopped about 10 times in my life and only one minor speeding ticket....when I should have had about 10 tickets.

God Bless em, it's a tough job!:cheers:

John

Maligator 01-12-2012 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Wayne O (Post 1579660400)
I'm glad the guy got a warning but I wouldn't be surprised if the cop told the driver to shutoff the camera. The cops/government like to video you but they don't want you to videotape them. I know of several situations that demonstrate this. Even when it's their video if it supports your case they most often won't release the video to you. Evidently, getting to the truth and justice isn't always important.

You mean the the elected officials, that YOU voted for enacted a law that forbids the recording and audio of people without consent? Its called eavesdropping..........dont hate the player, hate the game.........Oh, and the continuous digital recording of my speed, my driving, my speech is all subject to the FOIA, so if you think truth and justice isnt important, think again............


Originally Posted by Deceptikon (Post 1579660675)
The camera shows the large amount of traffic around the vette. The radar gun (if this was used to clock speed) is likley to have clocked the large semi that was in front of the vette. The radar gun picks up on the largest moving object.

Clocked? that would imply using a clock or timer, or a time distance calculation; which, is not radar. Radar(radio detection and ranging) uses the doppler shift and if the trooper was using some rudimentary, fossil like instrumentation, you "may" be right. Or, which is more probable than not, he was using something along the lines of this:http://kustomsignals.com/index.php/mradar/eagle-family. Which, I know for a fact that this State Police agency uses. It not only picks up the largest object having the most reflect-ability, but also the fastest, which "could" have been the corvette..........

but we are arguing a cop, giving someone a warning right?????

Maligator 01-12-2012 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by JKbride (Post 1579720638)
I was always taught, when pulled over, roll the window down and "Puppy Dog" both hands out the window. Don't fish for your wallet or anything else in the car.

LEO's never know what they are walking up on, and seeing both of your hands and respect goes a long way. I have been stopped about 10 times in my life and only one minor speeding ticket....when I should have had about 10 tickets.

God Bless em, it's a tough job!:cheers:

John

Thank you sir! Its not rocket science, just dont habitually get speeding tickets, do 40 over, be a dick and expect a break. Did the old man who was doing 98 in a 55 in a new ZR1 get a pass? Sure did. Why? Because it was 2am, no one was out on the road, he had a clean ass driving record and was cool as hell..............

write the guy who cut you off at 100, and im a hero........
your the guy whos doing a 100 and gets a citation and im a dick.......
(above not directed at you John :D)

whitjo 01-17-2012 02:49 PM

I'd just smoked a GT Mustang that was messin' with me.....topped a hill on a 4 lane and my radar detector went wild.....stood on the brakes hard enough to give me a head rush at 125.......I peeled off 50MPH in less than a second but he locked on at 75.

I was polite and used the excuse that I had just had the engine replaced and the dealer tech told me to run the hell out of it.
Still cost me driving school (a joke) and court cost.

brent319 01-17-2012 03:08 PM

It is my understanding that the law differs from state to state, but in some states (I think IL is one of them) they can charge you with eavesdropping and you can be facing a very serious prison term.
The way I remember it... the law is so old that it precedes current technology and only covers audio So some states can get you on wiretapping / eaves dropping charges because of the audio, but the video is not covered.
I have a lot of respect for cops in general and know it is a hard job. I also know that like any group of people, there are going to be a few bad ones. The ACLU gets all cranky about cameras recording me in public places and I think that is stupid. I am in public and have no expectation of privacy, and I am not doing anything illegal so I really don't care. It seems silly that somebody can face MANY years in prison for taping an officer doing his duty in public. Granted, most of those are thrown out on appeal, but it just shows the law is antiquated.

KCC6Vert 01-17-2012 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Jerky (Post 1579697040)
I wonder what would've happened if the driver subsequently pulled out a microfiber towel to wipe off the hand print as soon as the cop took his hand off the car :lol:

Had to log in to respond to this. Laughed out loud!!! :lol:

foothills 01-17-2012 04:50 PM

Yep, that's on 85 going into Greenville. That's a very bad stretch of 85 for getting pulled over. It's even worse a few miles before there just the other side of the split off for the exits to Pleasantburg/Mauldin Rd. They run an unmarked SUV there regularly that nabs people left and right.

PatriotZ 01-17-2012 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Wayne O (Post 1579660400)
I'm glad the guy got a warning but I wouldn't be surprised if the cop told the driver to shutoff the camera. The cops/government like to video you but they don't want you to videotape them. I know of several situations that demonstrate this. Even when it's their video if it supports your case they most often won't release the video to you. Evidently, getting to the truth and justice isn't always important.

Wayne....you have a lot of bogus statements here.... for one thing the video is a public record....yes the driver does have the right to video tape. No the cop cannot make the operator stop video taping....unless it is unsafe.... I realize you got burned once and still haven't forgotten it... one bad experience does not taint an entire force.... Peace:flag:

brent319 01-17-2012 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by PatriotZ (Post 1579762256)
Wayne....you have a lot of bogus statements here.... for one thing the video is a public record....yes the driver does have the right to video tape. No the cop cannot make the operator stop video taping....unless it is unsafe.... I realize you got burned once and still haven't forgotten it... one bad experience does not taint an entire force.... Peace:flag:

This guy will be glad to hear that. He is facing felony one charges (same as rape) that could put him in the PMITA :eek: prison for 75 years.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/man-c...-recording-pol


A quick google found more cases...

http://www.alternet.org/story/151806...y/?page=entire

http://abcnews.go.com/US/TheLaw/vide...6#.TxXyMBxKiJs

Like I said above, a lot of these are thrown out, but how much time and money did they lose over the matter.

bvanemon 01-17-2012 08:02 PM

Same thing?
 
Had just cleaned up our C3 from its winter nap. Headed to town for supper, there is a nice set of curves then up a short hill, and down to town. Couldn't help it was running about 85 around the curves and up the hill comes a sheriff car didn't slow down but looked in the rear view mirror, he flashed his blue lights.
Took it easy all the way to town.
Couldn't tell if he agreed or to slow down, I know most the the sheriff deputy's a real good group.:cheers:

ryker 01-17-2012 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Deceptikon (Post 1579660675)
The camera shows the large amount of traffic around the vette. The radar gun (if this was used to clock speed) is likley to have clocked the large semi that was in front of the vette. The radar gun picks up on the largest moving object.

True years ago, not now

ryker 01-17-2012 09:02 PM

Speeding is minor. Often ignored.

Speeding and being aggressive is what will result in at least one ticket. Ie passing on double yellow, tailgating, or other unsafe acts. Other drivers do call 911 and report unsafe drivers.

If you see blue lights:
Pull over in a safe location for you and the officer. If you need to drive a distance to find a safe area turn your hazards on.
Roll down both windows and don't be reaching around for anything.


Or just stop dead in the road and start video taping. Yell at the officer and tell him you know your rights.

category4 01-17-2012 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by ryker (Post 1579764247)
True years ago, not now

Still true, while the newer units can clock fastest as well as strongest speeds it does take a second or so for the unit to get the fastest speed. This gives you more than enough time to adjust your speed if you have the right equipment.

PatriotZ 01-17-2012 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by brent319 (Post 1579762395)
This guy will be glad to hear that. He is facing felony one charges (same as rape) that could put him in the PMITA :eek: prison for 75 years.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/man-c...-recording-pol


A quick google found more cases...

http://www.alternet.org/story/151806...y/?page=entire

http://abcnews.go.com/US/TheLaw/vide...6#.TxXyMBxKiJs

Like I said above, a lot of these are thrown out, but how much time and money did they lose over the matter.

different state....not the case here in Arizona:flag:

Mitchell54 01-18-2012 12:45 AM

Last summer I was out in my '04 convertible, minding my own business, in no hurry. I saw a state trooper gradually coming up in the passing lane but thought nothing of it. All of a sudden I see the lights come on and this guy is behind me pulling me over. Before I can even get off the road, he's on the P.A. ordering me to pull over and stay in the car. I'm thinkin' what the f....? This guy's got me confused with someone else....

Once I was off the highway, I hear blaring over the P.A. "Get your hands where I can see them!" So up go my hands into the air. Cars are whizzing by on the highway, people are looking, but this guy's still not getting out of the car. "Higher!" he yells. I'm thinking, what the hell did I do this time...?

And then, after a good ten second delay for dramatic effect, my cop friend and riding buddy Jose steps out of the cruiser laughing his butt off. I coulda killed him. Needless to say, all but the middle finger on both my hands curled up, and we both had a good laugh. I have to wonder what people thought as they drove by seeing a guy in a convertible Corvette flipping a state trooper the double-bird.

So yup, Leos are people too, and just like everybody else, they're mostly good people just doing a job. I hate to think what the zoo would be like without them.

>>> Move Right >>> 01-18-2012 06:59 PM

That’s me.
 
Ok guys, how’s this for a first post…

That’s me.

Here’s the story. Santa brought me a GoPro (I was good!). I just wanted to try the suction cup mount to make sure it would stay on during NORMAL driving speeds and was just making a quick run around the block. Well, unless you count my usual “spirited” onramp acceleration. Then I noticed the left lane was open (3 lane highway) and continued that acceleration while changing lanes (I was bad). While changing lanes, I was glued to the mirrors and did not notice the officer merging on in the next onramp.

I thought for sure I was going to jail for that brief moment of pleasure…

>>> Move Right >>> 01-18-2012 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Wayne O (Post 1579660400)
I'm glad the guy got a warning but I wouldn't be surprised if the cop told the driver to shutoff the camera. The cops/government like to video you but they don't want you to videotape them. I know of several situations that demonstrate this. Even when it's their video if it supports your case they most often won't release the video to you. Evidently, getting to the truth and justice isn't always important.

Thanks! :cheers:

He obviously saw the camera as he approached. I did tell him it was on. He said he didn't care. (edited that part out...)

>>> Move Right >>> 01-18-2012 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by pcguy2u (Post 1579660804)
I find the vid questionable - like in a video production and not a spontaneous event that just happened by chance???

Just my cynical nature:rofl:

That's ok - I hear voices sometimes...

Thanks for the "production quality" compliment though, I do try to put some effort into my videos. More examples here:

http://www.youtube.com/pixelshock

:thumbs:

>>> Move Right >>> 01-18-2012 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by chuck1026 (Post 1579695257)
What I find disturbing is how it appears that the officer is using the Vette as a VERY EXPENSIVE clipboard. What gives?

https://www.corvetteforum.com/mt-sta...r/010412_2.jpg

:ack::toetap:

I hear ya!!! But I didn't feel comfortable saying anything at the moment...

:willy:

>>> Move Right >>> 01-18-2012 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by MidYearRoadster (Post 1579697417)
nothing like and EDITED VIDEO....never saw him speeding or as the cop said..blowing off one of his stipes on his car... All we see is him pulling over like a good little boy....if we are going to be fair around here lets see the whole damn thing....if I were a cop now and someone blew bye me like this guy must have done...I would have written him a citation big time.....if you play you must pay.
Eat or be ett..law of the jungle

Of course I edited it. Otherwise there would be another 15 minutes of watching me sit there and wait.

As far as the alleged "speeding" part, my 14 year old son advised me that it might be smart to not include that.

I do agree with you - You got to pay to play - And I deserved the ticket. Guess it was just my lucky day...

:thumbs:

TNTC4VETTE 01-18-2012 07:23 PM

I got nailed pulling out of my development 2 days ago. Guy on a motorcycle sat and watched me wind out 1st gear merging into traffic. Wrote me for disobeying a traffic device instead of 51 in a 35. Sucks, but I was speeding. Had no idea what 1st gear was good to on my car.

Maybe I SHOULD replace the HUD...again.

Jimmy Z 01-18-2012 07:31 PM

Lucky guy..........:D

Thanxs 01-19-2012 07:53 AM

The Carolina troopers are really aggressive When issuing tickets. I received one ticket going thru The state and one coming back. Not good!!!

kmobrien76 01-22-2012 10:49 AM

ticket
 
I have been quite lucky over the years in regards to speeding tickets/warnings...always driven cars that stood out in a crowd, 81, 89, 95, 96 camaro, now the '74 'Vette (bright blue)...

My only suggestion is to be respectful, around here in Boston, I would necessarily agree with yes sir/no sir...keep hands on the steering wheel and if you have a passenger, hands on their lap...When asked for registration if in the glovebox, make eye contact and let him know that you are going to retrieve it from the glovebox...when asked for your license again, let him know where you are going to get it from, often mine is in my inside (left) jacket upper pocket...this will lessen his worries in my opinion...Above all, this is a bit tricky, but I would try not to answer his question as to why you were speeding as that can be used against you in traffic court....lastly don't lie, if you are going to make any statements to the officer, do NOT lie...if you weren't wearing your seatbelt, don't wrestle to put it on very quick...I heard that they watch for that...lastly, just talk to them like they are a regular person, since they are, difference: they have a gun and can take you to jail!

Kevin

need-for-speed 01-22-2012 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by brent319 (Post 1579762395)
This guy will be glad to hear that. He is facing felony one charges (same as rape) that could put him in the PMITA :eek: prison for 75 years.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/man-c...-recording-pol


A quick google found more cases...

http://www.alternet.org/story/151806...y/?page=entire

http://abcnews.go.com/US/TheLaw/vide...6#.TxXyMBxKiJs

Like I said above, a lot of these are thrown out, but how much time and money did they lose over the matter.

Wow ! Watched the first one. Anyone know what happened to Michael Allison? I googled it but nothing more current than the Aug 2011 story.

category4 01-22-2012 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by need-for-speed (Post 1579803677)
Wow ! Watched the first one. Anyone know what happened to Michael Allison? I googled it but nothing more current than the Aug 2011 story.

Charges dropped by the judge. As are all of these cases. The US Appeals courts have ruled there is no expectation of privacy but the police while performing their duties the the public arena.

All of these cases are nothing more than police trying to be the law instead of enforcing the law. They can't tolerate the public questioning their authority and lash out at those that do.

http://www.theagitator.com/2011/09/1...chael-allison/

kmobrien76 01-22-2012 02:16 PM

Judge Rejects Eavesdropping Charges for Recording Police


Michael Allison, an Illinois man who faced a potential sentence of 75 years in prison for recording police officers and attempting to tape his own trial, caught a break last week when a state judge declared the charges unconstitutional.

Mad*Max 01-22-2012 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by SabresFan (Post 1579693253)
Ya, I was surprised that the O-dot gave me a break....probably owns one too. :cheers:

yep, they're pulling a lot of overtime dough

need-for-speed 01-23-2012 07:12 PM

category4, kmobrien , thanks for the update !

WAwatchnut 01-23-2012 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by VetteTrpr (Post 1579692487)
Wayne O,,,I'm sure given your great legal background, extensive judicial knowledge and your pro law enforcement stance that you are familar with the term "discovery" as it applies to the statutory rules of evidence. Or maybe your just showing your ignorance.

The Seattle Police have a habit of "misplacing" video that doesnt portray them in a favorable light. "discovery" or right to public access aside, it has been well documented in a few cases by the local news channels. In car cameras have disappeared when lawsuits have been filed, or new crews make public requests. A few of the tapes turned up later, fully corroborating the civilians accounts of what happened.

I hope it doesn't happen often, but it does happen.

johnnybravothepimp 01-28-2012 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Wayne O (Post 1579660400)
I'm glad the guy got a warning but I wouldn't be surprised if the cop told the driver to shutoff the camera. The cops/government like to video you but they don't want you to videotape them. I know of several situations that demonstrate this. Even when it's their video if it supports your case they most often won't release the video to you. Evidently, getting to the truth and justice isn't always important.

You can say that again!


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