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gpopvet 11-28-2011 07:53 PM

3LT or 4LT
 
I am considering buying a 2012 Centennial Edition one is a 3LT and the other is a 4LT the car is being sent to Callaway for a SC606 package. Is the 4LT worth the extra money? Is there anything else I should be aware of? I am going for the automatic.

Mchapman 11-28-2011 08:10 PM

More importantly think CHROME!

Racer 11-28-2011 08:13 PM

For me 4LT would be the ONLY option. :yesnod:

Cypher 11-28-2011 08:13 PM

I just went from a 3LT to a 3LZ (same as 4LT) and my opinion is, YES…it’s definitely worth the money.

The upgraded interior gives the car a significantly better feel inside. :thumbs:

MThomas 11-28-2011 08:13 PM

This is the first time I've had the 4lt and I'm very happy with it. I believes it adds to the interior. I would say go fo it!!!!!!! Good Luck!!!

Callaway Chris 11-28-2011 08:14 PM

On that particular model, 4LT is the way to go - the interior just looks so much nicer w/ the red stitch on doors and dash:thumbs:

If I can help in any other way, please let me know :cheers:

CENT Z06 11-28-2011 08:36 PM

4LT is the way to go. The leather dash makes all the difference.

hwy1vette 11-28-2011 08:38 PM

Does either have a back up camera?

bearphoto 11-28-2011 08:41 PM

My Z06 is a 3LZ and my coupe is a 4LT. I believe the top packages are the way to go. My vert which i just sold was a 3LT and it was nice but not at the level of the 4LT.

BluegrassMotorsport 11-28-2011 08:53 PM

I would definitely go with the 4LT. If you are going to get one, why not go all-out?

Callaway Chris 11-28-2011 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by hwy1vette (Post 1579335934)
Does either have a back up camera?

No. But as he said, he's looking at a Callaway Corvette - so what's behind you, shouldn't matter :rock:

www.callawaycars.com

phileaglesfan 11-28-2011 09:02 PM

I owned/own both. 4LT is fantastic looking but in a car that costs $90-110k it looks out of place. If price is no object then there are other "brands" out there that are far better looking. Caravaggio, DSV, Callaway's Deutschlander interior, I think Pratt and Miller's, etc. Yes they are a lot more expensive than the 4LT but a lot better also.

I went with 3LT this time and I'm using DSV as my source of interior parts. GM should have improved the 4LTs shifter/Ebrake and boots and the seats leather quality IMO since they are basically the same as a 3LT interior.

To answer your question about the back up camera. No Vettes currently have it as an option or standard feature. But the 4LT is a cosmetic option only also when you compare it to a 3LT anyway.

Marc V. 11-28-2011 09:02 PM

4LT
:rock:

peter pan 11-28-2011 09:05 PM

I purchased the 3LT as the 4LT was out of my budget, I would get the 4LT if it was in my budget:rock:

Racer 11-28-2011 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by phileaglesfan (Post 1579336183)
I owned/own both. 4LT is fantastic looking but in a car that costs $90-110k it looks out of place. If price is no object then there are other "brands" out there that are far better looking. Caravaggio, DSV, Callaway's Deutschlander interior, I think Pratt and Miller's, etc. Yes they are a lot more expensive than the 4LT but a lot better also.

I went with 3LT this time and I'm using DSV as my source of interior parts. GM should have improved the 4LTs shifter/Ebrake and boots and the seats leather quality IMO since they are basically the same as a 3LT interior.

To answer your question about the back up camera. No Vettes currently have it as an option or standard feature. But the 4LT is a cosmetic option only also when you compare it to a 3LT anyway.

Mine DOES NOT look out of place in my ZR1, it looks fantastic. :yesnod:

Marc V. 11-28-2011 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by Racer (Post 1579336237)
Mine DOES NOT look out of place in my ZR1, it looks fantastic. :yesnod:

So does your avatar. :smiliedrool:

studiovette 11-28-2011 09:15 PM

I agree with phileaglesfan. How in the world did GM give the ZR1 vinyl shifter and ebrake boots, and the same leather seats. That's extremely disappointing. I don't even think the entire door panel is leather. :crazy2:
Anyway Save the money and go with a 3lt. Correct me if I'm wrong the 4lt adds over 10k to the sticker price. The factory leather upgrades are sub par quality at best. Why not have a vendor like DSVettes Apsis or Caravagio do all the leather goods for you and give your car a unique look and feel. Or they can simply give you the OEM look with much better quality leather stitching etc.... My 2007 is a 3LT with DSVettes leather and I'll put it against any 4lt anyday. And It didn't cost and extra 10k. And my entire entire is leather from the visors to the Apillars to the glove box and knee bolster and on and on and on.

phileaglesfan 11-28-2011 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by Racer (Post 1579336237)
Mine DOES NOT look out of place in my ZR1, it looks fantastic. :yesnod:

Compared to other cars in the ZR1's price range it looks out of place. It is all subject to personal opinion. Compare it to an Audi or Jaguar and it fails big time though.

4LT doesn't cost $10k more than 3LT. It is about $4k MSRP and about $2600 real world. It is a good interior for the money but there are far nicer options out there. For a stock GM interior 4LT looks fantastic, compared to other brands though it is not that great looking to be honest. But I bet not many of us bought the Corvette because of the interior.

Racer 11-28-2011 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by studiovette (Post 1579336334)
Save the money and go with a 3lt. Correct me if I'm wrong the 4lt adds over 10k to the sticker price. The factory leather upgrades are sub par quality at best. Why not have a vendor like DSVettes Apsis or Caravagio do all the leather goods for you and give your car a unique look and feel. Or they can simply give you the OEM look with much better quality leather stitching etc.... My 2007 is a 3LT with DSVettes leather and I'll put it against any 4lt anyday

WHAT? You are being misleading for sure, you said "take the 3LT cause the 4 LT adds over $10,000 to the sticker price". How about take the 4LT cause it is only $3500 more than the 3LT. :yesnod:

59chevyguy 11-28-2011 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by CENT Z06 (Post 1579335906)
4LT is the way to go. The leather dash makes all the difference.

:iagree:

Shysterman69 11-28-2011 09:53 PM

I went from an 08 c6 3LT to an 11' GS with 4LT, I ordered the car just the way I wanted and find the 4LT worth every penny... :thumbs:

studiovette 11-28-2011 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by Racer (Post 1579336384)
WHAT? You are being misleading for sure, you said "take the 3LT cause the 4 LT adds over $10,000 to the sticker price". How about take the 4LT cause it is only $3500 more than the 3LT. :yesnod:



Thanks for correcting me. It was an honest guess. I was off a little :lol: Anyway I can still argue that my dash,door panels, console lid, steering wheel and both boots and handles cost about that and are 100% better quality over the 4lt interior.

hwy1vette 11-28-2011 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Callaway Chris (Post 1579336171)
No. But as he said, he's looking at a Callaway Corvette - so what's behind you, shouldn't matter :rock:

www.callawaycars.com

That's funny, and you're correct again.

Racer 11-28-2011 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by phileaglesfan (Post 1579336382)
Compared to other cars in the ZR1's price range it looks out of place. It is all subject to personal opinion. Compare it to an Audi or Jaguar and it fails big time though.

Compared to the ZR1 the performance of the Audi and Jag are out of place, they fail big time, so now what? I guess for that price you can't really have everything can you. I will take my nice interior and fantastic performance compared to their fantastic interiors(subjective) and nice performance (subjective) :crazy:

Ten-Zing 11-28-2011 11:39 PM

I have a '06 vert 3LT. Don't have GS envy, LS3, new steering, different wheel, etc envy...

But after seeing that stitched dash and other 4LT trim I have 4LT envy bigtime. Gimme 99LT, gimme the Mercedes Airscarf, ventilated A/C seats...

RUBYREDVET 11-29-2011 12:32 AM

My brother and I were driving C5's in 2007 when we saw the leather interior (3LZ for Z06 and 4LT for coupes and verts) in the Corvette Corral at an AMLS race. We were blown away and remarked that we both need new C6's.:yesnod: My brother ordered his 2008 coupe in the fall of '07 and I picked up an '08 Z in August 2008.:D The leather option is what pushed us over the edge.:thumbs:
We have both since replaced the shifter, park brake boots and console cover with leather.:cheers:

cnw 11-29-2011 01:29 AM

I wished I'd asked this question. I went LT3 and now would have preferred the LT4. This seems to be the consensus, doesn't it.

Craig

gpopvet 11-29-2011 04:35 AM

Now I have to get the guy with the 4LT to fix his number the right way, he is trying to get a lot more or I will have to order the car and have it shipped to Callawy instead of doing it now, nothing is ever easy.

Snake.Oiler 11-29-2011 07:59 AM

I bought a 2010 3LT last year. Had it 3 months and traded for the 4LT. IMO, this should be the standard interior for the 1LT price

CO GEEZER 11-29-2011 12:33 PM

Just a suggestion for anyone considering the 4LT.... Forget the Heritage Package for $2500 or what ever it is. All it includes is fender stripes, Choice of two tone seats (already comes with 4LT) and embroidered seat head rest which also already comes with 4LT. Huge rip off from GM.

Rich Farr 11-29-2011 01:16 PM

Downside Of 4LT
 
I have the 4LT and like it. The problem is the thick leather makes the thin, poor quality seat leather look like extremely thin vinyl. Anyone know of seat covers in thicker higher quality leather?

ohfiver 11-29-2011 01:41 PM

I ordered the 3lt
 
Ordered a Cent. Edition G/S coupe, pick it up in a few weeks. To me the 3lt Cent. Edition interior was just right. I will use the savings for other mods!

redzone 11-29-2011 01:46 PM

If you have the means for a Callaway,you may very well be able to afford a full Caravaggio interior. If so,have Callaway send it up to Toronto when they are done & you'll have an interior that is unrivaled.

Invicta1 11-29-2011 08:18 PM

I was not going to get the 4LT until I sat in one. Mine is Torch red with the red stiching. Once I saw it I was sold. I bought the car. No regrets. :thumbs:

phileaglesfan 11-29-2011 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Racer (Post 1579337117)
Compared to the ZR1 the performance of the Audi and Jag are out of place, they fail big time, so now what? I guess for that price you can't really have everything can you. I will take my nice interior and fantastic performance compared to their fantastic interiors(subjective) and nice performance (subjective) :crazy:

I guess you are right. Why expect everything in a car that cost 6 digits? :crazy2: Also the R8-V10 lost to the ZR1 on Top Gear's track (same driver) by around 1 second. Add some moisture and I bet the results would have changed. But hey the ZR1 has an interior that is in a car not even half its price so it has got to make up for it somewhere.

Since the OP mentioned Callaway, I mentioned a better interior since he is willing to spend close to 6 digits already.

Racer 11-29-2011 11:18 PM


Originally Posted by phileaglesfan (Post 1579345068)
I guess you are right. Why expect everything in a car that cost 6 digits? :crazy2: Also the R8-V10 lost to the ZR1 on Top Gear's track (same driver) by around 1 second. Add some moisture and I bet the results would have changed. But hey the ZR1 has an interior that is in a car not even half its price so it has got to make up for it somewhere.

Since the OP mentioned Callaway, I mentioned a better interior since he is willing to spend close to 6 digits already.

Actually one second is an eternity in supercar wars, plus why didn't you mention 1/4 performance and top speed too? I know why, all LARGE ZR1 wins by HUGE amounts. :yesnod: Plus, as you can see, the 4LT lovers are showing their force in this thread, maybe it isn't as bad as you want people to believe. :yesnod:

sublime1996525 11-30-2011 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by CENT Z06 (Post 1579335906)
4LT is the way to go. The leather dash makes all the difference.

:iagree: I wish they had this option on the 06's. I guess it just means DSV is going to get more of my money or DD Mods once I see what their dash looks like.

phileaglesfan 11-30-2011 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Racer (Post 1579346425)
Actually one second is an eternity in supercar wars, plus why didn't you mention 1/4 performance and top speed too? I know why, all LARGE ZR1 wins by HUGE amounts. :yesnod: Plus, as you can see, the 4LT lovers are showing their force in this thread, maybe it isn't as bad as you want people to believe. :yesnod:

I never said 4LT wasn't good as I owned an 08 4LT for 3 years. In a car that costs $100-120k it doesn't look right though especially since they didn't change anything such as seats/tranny/ebrake areas. The OP stressed Callaway which is a $20k + option. I know the ZR1 is fast but in reality on the street the difference is not that big unless you either don't care about tickets or are good friends with the local police. I know you have owned a Ferrari before or maybe currently do. How does the 4LT compare to its interior? Do the seats show crinkle marks after a couple years? Probably not. Personally I don't see spending 6 digit kind of money on any car, especially one whose interior looks like it is from a car in the $30-50k range with a Cobalt steering wheel. But to each their own. :cheers:

Racer 11-30-2011 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by phileaglesfan (Post 1579352526)
I never said 4LT wasn't good as I owned an 08 4LT for 3 years. In a car that costs $100-120k it doesn't look right though especially since they didn't change anything such as seats/tranny/ebrake areas. The OP stressed Callaway which is a $20k + option. I know the ZR1 is fast but in reality on the street the difference is not that big unless you either don't care about tickets or are good friends with the local police. I know you have owned a Ferrari before or maybe currently do. How does the 4LT compare to its interior? Do the seats show crinkle marks after a couple years? Probably not. Personally I don't see spending 6 digit kind of money on any car, especially one whose interior looks like it is from a car in the $30-50k range with a Cobalt steering wheel. But to each their own. :cheers:

I do still own the 430 and it was a $200,000 car (new) not a $114,000 car and no the interior in my ZR1 is not of Ferrari quality, but since I DO own the 4LT or whatever it is called in the ZR1, yes it is nice. I did change the steering wheel for an Apsis, but I really think that is all I am changing. Now my wifes all ebony 3LT interior was too "all ebony" and yea, plasticy, so I changed about 60-75% of the interior. Honestly, I think you are being waaay to harsh on this interior, I really, really like it. :yesnod:

studiovette 11-30-2011 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by phileaglesfan (Post 1579352526)
I never said 4LT wasn't good as I owned an 08 4LT for 3 years. In a car that costs $100-120k it doesn't look right though especially since they didn't change anything such as seats/tranny/ebrake areas. The OP stressed Callaway which is a $20k + option. I know the ZR1 is fast but in reality on the street the difference is not that big unless you either don't care about tickets or are good friends with the local police. I know you have owned a Ferrari before or maybe currently do. How does the 4LT compare to its interior? Do the seats show crinkle marks after a couple years? Probably not. Personally I don't see spending 6 digit kind of money on any car, especially one whose interior looks like it is from a car in the $30-50k range with a Cobalt steering wheel. But to each their own. :cheers:


I have to agree 100%. :iagree:

Love the cobalt analogy. :rofl:

The ZR-1 is in a league of its own and should have all the accessoriess and interior goodies to go with the speed and performance it offers.

Callaway Chris 11-30-2011 10:16 PM

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Callaway Deutschleder Interior Option :smiliedrool:

Mtlfusion 11-30-2011 10:47 PM

:iagree: HOLY SH!T :smiliedrool::smiliedrool::smiliedrool:: smiliedrool::smiliedrool::smiliedrool::s miliedrool::smiliedrool::smiliedrool:

samsiam 11-30-2011 10:52 PM

4lt all the way !!!! that's what is in this Triple blue vert!

http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/...1/100_1759.jpg
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Eminitrader 11-30-2011 11:09 PM

4LT all day

Racer 12-01-2011 01:55 AM


Originally Posted by studiovette (Post 1579354125)
I have to agree 100%. :iagree:

Love the cobalt analogy. :rofl:

The ZR-1 is in a league of its own and should have all the accessoriess and interior goodies to go with the speed and performance it offers.

and it does. :yesnod:

MrKris 12-01-2011 01:39 PM

I got to sit in a 2011 GS 4LT at the state fair and I really liked the leather wrap look and stitching. However, due to the extra cost, I had planned on ordering 3LT in mine. But, I wanted two-tone and when I saw the 2012 two-tone treatment, I did not like the center color going all the way to the top of the seats. That was disappointing.

Thankfully, when I went down to order my 2012 GS, I learned I could get an extra $3,000 off as a current Corvette owner. So, I chose 4LT and told myself I was getting if for "free." LOL

Cyber Gray, Comp Gray, Silver Hash, Dk Titanium/Ebony

My car is due to be delivered 12/06/2011 and I only recently learned the interior would be Alcantara & Leather. I thought all leather. Oh well, my wife's 370Z has Alcantara and I think I will enjoy it just fine!!

MrKris 01-04-2012 11:38 AM

4LT!! You can get it for around $3,000 ($3,500 MSRP). That is just a little more than a set of tires.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35773961/For...2/DSC_0873.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35773961/For...2/DSC_0712.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35773961/For...2/DSC_0903.jpg

kemomek 01-04-2012 12:35 PM

Blue Callaway Int.
 
That blue Callaway interior really looks so good. Makes me wanna go rob a few dozen 7-11's....... :cheers: :yesnod: :cheers: :leaving:

CaryBob 01-04-2012 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by CO GEEZER (Post 1579340827)
Just a suggestion for anyone considering the 4LT.... Forget the Heritage Package for $2500 or what ever it is. All it includes is fender stripes, Choice of two tone seats (already comes with 4LT) and embroidered seat head rest which also already comes with 4LT. Huge rip off from GM.

Actually, it's $1,195 or about $850 at typical discounted price. If $2,500 is a "huge rip off", what would one-third of that price be?

I'm not arguing whether it is an option that makes sense, only trying to inject a little reality into the comparison. ALso, I don't believe it is possible to get the Grand Sport logo on the seat backs any other way. For $400 you can buy the stripes separately, of course.

Snakes & Arrows 01-04-2012 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Racer (Post 1579336237)
Mine DOES NOT look out of place in my ZR1, it looks fantastic. :yesnod:

:iagree: 4LT in no way shape or form looks out of place. In fact it looks great and perfectly in place.:thumbs:

tpapablo 01-04-2012 01:37 PM

Hell, I am happy with the 1LT.

Turbo6TA 01-04-2012 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by tpapablo (Post 1579643783)

Hell, I am happy with the 1LT.

I am glad you posted that ...

I have a 2011 GS Coupe 2LT with Ebony interior. I was getting ready to go out in the garage and gut the whole interior out of the car.

But, then I stopped when I read your post.

:)

tpapablo 01-04-2012 03:39 PM

Glad I could help. I was thinking I would have to do the same thing before I dare let a date sit in the automotive equivalent of a slum that is a 1LT.

ptaylor_9849 01-04-2012 03:58 PM

I really like the idea of a Callaway GS, however, I really dislike the bulge in the hood. Now that Edelbrock e-Force is available and you can keep your stock hood, any chance Callaway will follow suit?????? Chris????

Gearhead Jim 01-04-2012 05:21 PM

When we were about to buy a 2009 or 2010, we looked at the 4LT and decided against it.
To us, it looked a little better but not a huge difference.

More importantly, the colors used in the 4LT did not look as good to our eye as the more basic 3LT colors. That may have changed by now.

laconiajack 01-04-2012 06:25 PM

I think if your going top shelf (i.e. ZR-1), you should go all the way, and that would not be the 4LT interior but one from a top shelf aftermarket supplier. GM's 4LT is a rip-off for what you get.

phileaglesfan 01-04-2012 06:47 PM

It isn't a rip off as the dash/doors are expensive to replace anyway. I had a 4LT in my 08, 3LT in my 11 GS Vert and really don't miss the 4LT though. Shifter/ebrake areas on the 4LT are poor quality anyway. It definitely doesn't look right for a $50k car and not even close if you are buying a Z06/ZR1. The boots are real thin and cheap.

markzeronine 01-04-2012 06:48 PM

If you don't mind the price, then of course it's better!

I personally have a 1lt base, I haven't seen a 4lt interior yet but I'm sure I'll have a little envy. I don't care about navigation, I DISLIKE hud, dislike heated seats, don't care about passenger power seat, but the leather dash and door panels must be sweet!

Snakes & Arrows 01-04-2012 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by phileaglesfan (Post 1579646303)
It isn't a rip off as the dash/doors are expensive to replace anyway. I had a 4LT in my 08, 3LT in my 11 GS Vert and really don't miss the 4LT though. Shifter/ebrake areas on the 4LT are poor quality anyway. It definitely doesn't look right for a $50k car and not even close if you are buying a Z06/ZR1. The boots are real thin and cheap.

Oh okay. We believe you.:nonod:[

phileaglesfan 01-04-2012 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Snakes & Arrows (Post 1579646364)
Oh okay. We believe you.:nonod:[

What part is it that you don't believe? The fact that I don't miss the 4LT or that the boots are cheap looking.:lurk:

TexBlade 01-04-2012 07:11 PM

4LT.....no regrets!!! :thumbs:

studiovette 01-04-2012 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by laconiajack (Post 1579646143)
I think if your going top shelf (i.e. ZR-1), you should go all the way, and that would not be the 4LT interior but one from a top shelf aftermarket supplier. GM's 4LT is a rip-off for what you get.


Originally Posted by phileaglesfan (Post 1579646493)
What part is it that you don't believe? The fact that I don't miss the 4LT or that the boots are cheap looking.:lurk:



I could not agree more. That's why I went with the real deal DSVettes full leather interior. I mean c'mon vinyl boots and how cheap was GM they couldn't even do the entire door panel :lol:. They did the top armrests and pulls :ack:

This is 4lt

http://www.google.com/search?q=4lt+c...iw=768&bih=928


Let's not show the boots cause that's just plain embarrassing . Whoever says NO is lying and is in denial .



This is DSV door panel

http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/...Picture002.jpg

ryker 01-04-2012 07:32 PM

My 4lt dash is separating from the leading edge. Large ripple. Pulling away from the HUD. But looks great otherwise.


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