CorvetteForum - Chevrolet Corvette Forum Discussion

CorvetteForum - Chevrolet Corvette Forum Discussion (https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/)
-   C6 Corvette ZR1 & Z06 (https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c6-corvette-zr1-and-z06-136/)
-   -   [Z06] motortrend Z07 Drag race Staged!! (https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c6-corvette-zr1-and-z06/2911699-motortrend-z07-drag-race-staged.html)

Dubai_Z06 09-12-2011 01:28 PM

motortrend Z07 Drag race Staged!!
 
As the title says ..what do u guys think ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDP7Pty8Qnw


The start of the race @2:14 was totally different race from the one @ 2:20 u will notice different cars ahead.. between the two clips "both clips showed the start of the race " also the Z showed huge burnout from top view clip .. but nothing from the side view clip were it got grip obviously !

niteriderc5 09-12-2011 01:36 PM

11.9 1/4 sounds right - I have noticed early Z06 models recorded better times - must be all that leather and suede:p

the video was probably spliced together - you really think they staged 11 cars to race only once...Most likly multiple races many camera angles - Final edit is a mix of multiple races...simple as that

Unreal 09-12-2011 01:41 PM

Like niteriderc5 said, I'm sure they just rerun stuff to get new camera angles and different shots. All professional car shows/videos do that. If your saying the times are rigged, I seriously doubt it.

Bigzaj 09-12-2011 01:59 PM


Then there was the Corvette's perennial Achilles' heel -- those damn seats! Lago noted that with this 'Vette, the ultra-gumballs help highlight just how inferior the seats are. Justin Bell gave me 30 laps around Laguna Seca as a passenger, and there were two of them where my (thankfully) helmeted head repeatedly banged against the window. If you have trouble reading between the lines, those two laps were in the Z06. Justin, who won Le Mans at the wheel of a Corvette, commented that he just couldn't believe a car with such tremendous levels of performance would let the occupants get tossed around in such a ridiculous manner.

At one point Bell (almost) missed a 2-3 upshift because he couldn't reach! Justin, who stands about 6 feet tall, had been hurled against the door and had to fight more than his own body weight (the Z06 pulls wacky g's) to sit up straight and push the industrial-strength shifter up and away. To reiterate, the Corvette Z06 had the worst seats of the bunch, by a flying mile. While fast around the figure eight, poor Kim had to hang on for dear life. "It wasn't pleasant," commented Mr. Reynolds. Anyhow, same old Corvette story. And you can't be the Best Driver's Car if your driver struggles.
Ouch.

Dubai_Z06 09-12-2011 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Unreal (Post 1578677247)
Like niteriderc5 said, I'm sure they just rerun stuff to get new camera angles and different shots. All professional car shows/videos do that. If your saying the times are rigged, I seriously doubt it.


Hmm but still with the first run the Z would have done much better time since its on cups not the f1 run crap ..this is 1/4 mile its all about the initial launch ..

Dubai_Z06 09-12-2011 02:35 PM

Is it possible that a Z06 with better suspension ,LC and semi sliks tires would get slower times than the typical Z 11.2-11.7 !?

Turbooo2u 09-12-2011 02:35 PM

They always complain about the seats. If your not fat, the seats are fine for the street and track.:cheers:

whatcop? 09-12-2011 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Turbooo2u (Post 1578677771)
They always complain about the seats. If your not fat, the seats are fine for the street and track.:cheers:

Man I'm skinny at 6'2 and 175lbs and I hate our seats. I had a bruise on my left knee from having to brace myself against the door arm through right hand turns at the track.

erichg1000 09-12-2011 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Turbooo2u (Post 1578677771)
They always complain about the seats. If your not fat, the seats are fine for the street and track.:cheers:

I have no idea what you're talking about I'm very not fat and find the seats to be awful. But I knew that before I bought it and that didn't change my mind. We need mitsubishi evo seats!

Zoxxo 09-12-2011 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Turbooo2u (Post 1578677771)
They always complain about the seats. If your not fat, the seats are fine for the street and track.:cheers:

Yeah, Justin Bell is definitely a fat guy :rolleyes:

If they always complain about the seats, just maybe there's something to it.

If I could bolt in a set of decent Recaros (GM seems to think they are worthy of the CTSV) stock seats would be history in a quick second.

Once you've had good performance seats, you can't go back (at least not happily.)

Z//

Garrett W 09-12-2011 03:30 PM

Cool video. I thought the GT3 looked sick and would have done better. I thought they should have done a lap with these cars and the results would have been much different :thumbs:

Stingray23 09-12-2011 03:35 PM

For anything other then cruising, the seats do suck. The Corvette team needs to address this for the C7. I dont care for the elderly, cruising type. They are whats been keeping us back.

cyi1 09-12-2011 03:49 PM

My friend shared that link on his facebook because he loves any video where the GTR comes out on top. But my response/comment every time is just a link -

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.ph...ew_normal_site

Lol

Anyone see the new LFA lap time of 7:14 in the "nurburgring edition"? Pretty sick

Unreal 09-12-2011 04:06 PM

Of course a z06 can run an 11.9. Saying they run 11.2-11.7 doesn't mean much. Best I've seen a stock one do here is 12.7s. Elevation, D/A, weather, track surface, etc. An airport isn't a prepped track surface. It could have been 100+ degrees out with the car pulling 5+ degrees of timing. Who knows?

carlsbad 09-12-2011 04:23 PM

This is why i belive the Z06 should of gotten a HP increase, at least 30HP. 505 HP is just not cutiing it anymore, every body else, even the R8 got an increase, while the z06 stayed at 505. SMH!

TARANTULA 09-12-2011 04:43 PM

Traction killed the Z look at the video again. I think the car spun first gear until 60 mhp

soulcoaxing 09-12-2011 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Stingray23 (Post 1578678377)
For anything other then cruising, the seats do suck. The Corvette team needs to address this for the C7. I dont care for the elderly, cruising type. They are whats been keeping us back.

Perhaps, and every opinion should count.

So, here's my opinion. If it were not for the 50s and older group, GM would not sell enough Z06s or ZR1s to continue making them, or they would be $150k each. Can't think of too many people that can challenge that assumption with facts.

As for the seats, they can be upgraded just as all other things can. It's been said a million times before, but the Z06 is an amazing car for the $84k you can buy them for new - now, anyway. Few cars can come close in all categories: price, performance, style, features and gas mileage. Each time I go to a car show, and each time I read the articles and specifications on other performance cars, I always end up appreciating my new 2011 Z06, with Z07 and Carbon option even more - $85k plus tax and license.

To whine about the nav or the seats, or the this or that, will only result in an increase in price, so you pay them now, or pay them later for the upgrades - but upgrades are never free. The advantage to upgrading to custom seats is the benefit of choice. Whereas, if GM supplied special seats at $1k or more per car - still, not everyone would like them.

Garrett W 09-12-2011 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by whatcop? (Post 1578677868)
Man I'm skinny at 6'2 and 175lbs and I hate our seats. I had a bruise on my left knee from having to brace myself against the door arm through right hand turns at the track.

Haha that is so funny. I wedge my left leg against the speaker for right turns and it cuts my knee up. And on left turns, i wedge my right leg right below the center console bezel, and the 3LZ stitching cuts my right knee up. It is painful driving these Z's... :rofl:

kp1a 09-12-2011 08:26 PM

The drag was nice and all but did anyone read the whole article? This is my favorite quote...
"Let's get this out of the way right now: The Z06 decimated the competition around Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca. The devilish Chevrolet, which showed up with 666 miles on the odometer, was more than a second faster around the track than the second-place Ferrari 458 Italia, and faster still than every other contender. No car was even close to the time laid down by the LS7-engined monster, despite the fact that the Fezza, the Lexus, the Audi, the Mercedes, and the Nissan all packed more horsepower."

The link to the whole article..
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...r/viewall.html

PureSwank 09-12-2011 09:37 PM

I saw that coming. I didn't even have to watch the video. Right of the bat i knew a awd was going to take it. It's not even fair. lol

u1arunit 09-12-2011 09:46 PM

Regarding the seats comments, sure they leave a lot to be desired but using one of these helps:

http://www.cg-lock.com/index.html

soulcoaxing 09-12-2011 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by u1arunit (Post 1578681873)
using one of these helps:

http://www.cg-lock.com/index.html

Seriously though, you need to vastly limit beer consumption 24-hours prior to tightening harness.

Zoxxo 09-12-2011 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by soulcoaxing (Post 1578679071)
If it were not for the 50s and older group, GM would not sell enough Z06s or ZR1s to continue making them, or they would be $150k each. Can't think of too many people that can challenge that assumption with facts.

At least you admit it's an assumption.

There's nothing in a Z06 that would ever warrant it being $150 (twice the price of a base C6.) Nothing. Heck, there's nothing in a ZR1 that warrants it, either, besides exclusivity and that wonderful wheeeeeeee factor.

The C6 Z06 was/is GM's first real step in getting the Corvette off of the "fat fifty-year-old with a midlife crisis and a second childhood" routine. The ZR1 plays back into it again, though, with the price really putting it up there.


To whine about the nav or the seats, or the this or that, will only result in an increase in price
"Whining" (aka pointing out that they aren't remotely in the same league as the seats in cars that GM itself tells us are the competition) will not raise the price of the car. How is providing an optional choice in seats an issue. How is that going to raise the price of the car?


if GM supplied special seats at $1k or more per car - still, not everyone would like them.
If GM supplied an OPTIONAL choice at $1k per car that worked with the air bags and steering column and had heat and power and properly held one in place while testing the G meter, that would be heavenly and I suspect quite a lot of people would opt for them.

GM has stated that the reason they don't fix the current seats is the cost of all the crash testing they'd have to do to certify the new seats. That's fair. But for the C7 they can do it right from the start and provide their "halo car" with proper performance seating.

Z//

jedblanks 09-12-2011 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by Dubai_Z06 (Post 1578677129)
]

embed

got2hav1 09-13-2011 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by kp1a (Post 1578680899)
The drag was nice and all but did anyone read the whole article? This is my favorite quote...
"Let's get this out of the way right now: The Z06 decimated the competition around Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca. The devilish Chevrolet, which showed up with 666 miles on the odometer, was more than a second faster around the track than the second-place Ferrari 458 Italia, and faster still than every other contender. No car was even close to the time laid down by the LS7-engined monster, despite the fact that the Fezza, the Lexus, the Audi, the Mercedes, and the Nissan all packed more horsepower."

The link to the whole article..
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...r/viewall.html

:iagree: This is what the car was made to do. All wheel drive is going to win the drag race without a doubt.

carlsbad 09-13-2011 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by got2hav1 (Post 1578684315)
:iagree: This is what the car was made to do. All wheel drive is going to win the drag race without a doubt.

Its not about AWD, the benz nor the italia is AWD, its about HP, if the Z06 had at least 30 more hp, it would of atleast came in 2nd place. 1st with a better launch. The Z06 needs more power!

Garrett W 09-13-2011 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by kp1a (Post 1578680899)
The drag was nice and all but did anyone read the whole article? This is my favorite quote...
"Let's get this out of the way right now: The Z06 decimated the competition around Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca. The devilish Chevrolet, which showed up with 666 miles on the odometer, was more than a second faster around the track than the second-place Ferrari 458 Italia, and faster still than every other contender. No car was even close to the time laid down by the LS7-engined monster, despite the fact that the Fezza, the Lexus, the Audi, the Mercedes, and the Nissan all packed more horsepower."

The link to the whole article..
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...r/viewall.html

Thank you!!!!

got2hav1 09-13-2011 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by carlsbad (Post 1578686174)
Its not about AWD, the benz nor the italia is AWD, its about HP, if the Z06 had at least 30 more hp, it would of atleast came in 2nd place. 1st with a better launch. The Z06 needs more power!

I understand but my point was its not a car to win drag races in. Sure its fast but its hard to launch without spinning. Its true colors come thru on the roadcourse. :thumbs:

nitrojunky 09-13-2011 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by carlsbad (Post 1578686174)
Its not about AWD, the benz nor the italia is AWD, its about HP, if the Z06 had at least 30 more hp, it would of atleast came in 2nd place. 1st with a better launch. The Z06 needs more power!

IMO, it was more about traction. the Z still has a very good power to weight ratio when compared with the competition.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:31 PM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands