C7 Mule Drivetrain Photos
 

Guys, did you see this today posted in Left Lane News. It was also on Brenda Priddy's site.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrole...ette-2014.html

Hmmm... Interesting... What's more interesting to me is that the wheels are tucked.

Finally! A mule! Progress!

FERRARI LIKE SOUND ENGINE :thumbs:

They're probably close to the width of standard C6....that's a wider GS body.

Yeah. That's true. Didn't think about that.

Hmmm... Good to see they are staying with the standard layout with the drivetrain.

If GM had used a base body nobody would even known it was a test mile.

Thanks for the heads up yet this is clearly GM poking fun and just creating press specilation

Why would they put a narrower chassis under GS bodywork? Why not just use a base coupe?

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The only things I can think of are the fact that they get a dry sump to test with. I wonder what a grandsport would look like with the offset of regular coupe wheels?

Smaller is cooler though imo. I like the C3's size.:rock:

This makes sense considering the top brass at GM felt the rear end of the current C6 was too big/wide. I am not sure if I agree depending on what they come up with.

After looking at these pics more, I am wondering if this chassis is only for the benefit of testing, developing, and recording the sound of the new engine only. I can't see any change as far as suspension or brakes, and I think the wheels are just there to throw people off. There are what looks to be sound recorders on both ends of the quad tips. Wish they had a video with the exhaust note.

Now we are FINALLY getting somewhere... I dont know if I like how it is going to be narrower than the current. I love the wide low stance. Also what they said about the 5.5L exhaust note was interesting. One thing I thought was the only good thing to me was the fact that it looked like they were trying to hide side exhaust with blue tape, or maybe just faking it, but how cool would side exhaust be with a rear diffuser !!

Honestly, narrower would be better to me. I can't tell you how many times I park in a parking spot and the door can hardly open without hitting the car next to me. I purposely park in the far back of a parking lot (and sometimes on the roof where nobody else parks) so that I don't have to deal with others, but sometimes that's not an option. Even when I park FAR from people, there's usually some schmuck that parks right next to me even though there's 100 empty spots around me.

That being said, a narrower car would likely yield an easier time getting in and out of the car when parked next to other cars or close walls.

Yes, that does make sense. GM will be able to sell the same car to the same buyer twice...initially as the narrow body version, and then again a few years later with fender flares.

Brilliant! :lol:

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We've been expecting that Brenda would come up with one and sure enough she did!
Look for those 14 spoke wheels to be the 2014 production wheel

Buy a Ferrari!!!

Remember this car is to be sold throughout the world. I lived in the UK for four years and having a wide car there can be quite an experience. Parking, roads, and bridges become much more of an issue with a wide car. My C5 was next to impossible to drive in the countryside on some of the B roads. I wouldn't even think about taking it into London, park and tube it in.

They can narrow the car while making the roofline lower. This would make the proportions the same and give it the wide feel again. The problem will be for the fatter buyers out there. The car will shrink, so should they.

then it will end up like this new aweful camaro with a tiny behind... They should make it wider and stop tucking it in at the bottom, all around the car.

punishing the states with narrower car because of european constraints sounds super dumb but then again, this is GM. European brands like Ferrari and Lambo do not seem to care, is GM going to market the vette in Europe as a groceries getter and commuter car? why not just slap vette emblems on a smart car? Even current widebody ain't wide enough.

Check out the exhaust. Why are the 2 inside pipes flared out while the outside 2 pipes are not? Mean anything?

decoys?:thumbs:

I understand your point but think of the car moving to something like that of the C3 or even the size of a AC cobra. Cobras, with the flares, are "wide" in comparison to their length but not compared to other cars.

Look at the Lamborghini Gallardo. Now we think of them as wide but in reality they are more narrow than a Z06, albeit slightly, 74.8 inches vs. 75.9 respectively. It is all about proportions.

Cobra is a bad example as a matter of fact because it is an old British car (and British designed all cars for their narrow roads), thus Shelby had to flare it out not to spend money on an actual design, same cheap half asss way the GM designed the widebody cars:D And no, look at cars like Detomaso Pantera instead:thumbs:

Yes the original car the cobra was based on was small but when you look at it with the flares and when it is equiped with 345 tires it "looks" wide. The same thing can be said for the grandsport/Z06 vs the base vette. The front and rear fender flares are what really make the difference. You mention the Pantera and say that it is wide when in reality it is more narrow than the base C6. The Pantera comes in at 72 inches while the base C6 comes in at 72.6.

My point is that what makes us think of something as "wide" are the proportions. The pantara, gallardo, and the cobra have short wheelbases compared to their widths. When you put it next to something we think of as not "wide" i.e. the base vette you can see where it actually isn't that wide.

Don't get me wrong I like low and wide sports cars. I am just saying that losing a few inches against the width of a GS/Z06 isn't the end of the world as long as it is done right.

proportions is the key, pantera is about 6 inches lower than the vette and 10 inches shorter... That cobra you keep talking about is 49 inches tall, 61 inches wide and 151 inches long. I hope you can figure out the proportions here. LOL at vette wide body, it is wide only in the middle, the typical GM way, just like the old vettes... As a matter of fact I am in the process of changing this part which is a lot work because I cannot stand looking at exposed tires on my Z06.

The Corvette needs to get narrower. It is not an exotic like a Lambo. The Corvette is a car that will, for many people, be a daily driver. It needs to become a little more practical without sacrificing too much in terms of performance (which it currently has in abundance and nobody would argue).

After they make the car narrower hopefully they can put on some tires that are a little narrower but don't sacrifice too much in terms of grip.

Concessions HAVE to be made to fuel economy, the world market, and utilization. This isn't a bad thing! GM is targeting Porsche and that is exactly what they need to do.

horrible suggestions, you sound like Obama:eek:

Everyone has their own likes and dislikes....but an even "smaller butt and body" than the C6?? Uggghhhhhhhh.....I for one hope GM doesn't go that way.... :eek: My first comment when I saw the C7 spy pics was... omg noooooo, not a slimmer body and smaller butt!!!! If I want a miata I'll go buy one. Ok, maybe I exaggerate a bits....but you get my drift.

making it wider from the ground up and lower is the only sensible way. If someone needs an automatic and easy step in, there is cadillac XLR, the vette is already 50 inches tall.

I agree. Make it a little wider...and if need be (for improved aerodynamics), shorten the height just a bit. I'm 6'....so no problem getting in...but 6'3" and above....might not be as easy/comfortable. :(

Difficult to tell with the photos but it appears the driver and passenger windows really canter in quite a bit more than present. Giving up shoulder/head room?

The blue covering on the rocker panel......side exhaust for the split window version?? Loved the side exhaust on my '66.... I might have to think seriously about a side exhaust option! :woohoo:

side exhaust kills aerodynamics plus it is counterproductive, leave it for Rousch mustang crowds:D. If anything, there may be an air intake there for brake ducting, the old Z06 style since right now, what current vette has is beyond pathetic, including Z06 and ZR1. The car does not need to be widened, just that tucked in look at the bottom should be eliminated. This was OK in a 68 vette but should not be present currently. If you fill in the bottom, you will improve aero and make it look like a real sports car. Dropping this car about 5 inches should be mandatory.

Quick! Someone notify the Corvette Racing Team of this! :D

http://blog.niot.net/blog-images/cor...or-sebring.jpg

Lol, got a close up of the cats on this car?:D:D I am guessing these are straight dumps vs. street and emissions legal exhaust?:rock:

You can drop 60lbs if you dich 4 feet of dual 3 inch over the axel exhaust.

Then eventually we would end up with a Lotus. Make the Vette smaller and lighter, with a smaller engine over and over again and you have nothing near a true Vette. The vast majority of the buyers are in the USA, where lanes and parking spots can fit a Z06 and a half. I think GM should concentrate on appeasing the US buyers before the European buyers who consist of a small percentage of the market share.

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lamborghini Gallardo looks tall and narrow, I have never cared for it. Look at the width and height of the lp 640, the true Lambo. Made in Italy, where Italy has some of the smallest roads. Lambo did not skimp of width and mean looks for their roads, the Vette should not either.






So why doesn't Corvette just ad a set of back seats for the car seat and 2 sliding doors for the children? The entire point of a Corvette is for the average man to have a mean performing car while sustaining reliability. Not picking the kids up from soccer practice. The width and performance should never be hindered IMHO. I want it faster, lower, wider, meaner, and who cares about fuel economy haha.

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Are you saying that side dumping exhaust is weightless? Not to mention the heat and cat packaging issues plus a nice 90 deg angle on each side. You may want to check PM street version of their car, it does not use the side dump exhaust for sure:D

yikes, a vette with a camry motor like lotus? Vette should look imposing and intimidating on the road because it is supposed to be a purpose built car, not making accommodations for people lacking agility or will to actually do some real driving. Not sure why so many insist on castrating the vette instead of just moving on to XLR. In that car, they do not have to do anything. I agree that catering to compact european car crowd is just stupid. Reminds me of Ford trying to pass a 4 cylinder stang as a legitimate muscle car. Things are already bad with a fleet designated vette option. The vette should be 45 inches tall max and about 80 inches wide FROM THE GROUND UP, then this would be a progressive move.:crazy:

Haha yes, scary thought. Cannot stand the lotus. And I like the 45" by 80" :thumbs:

Lotus is a lot like shelby, cashing in on the brand recognition while selling overpriced and underperforming crap. Lotus apparently moved up with camry motor, must be an improvement from isuzu they stuffed in that FWD Elan. I doubt vette will go back to C4 45 inch height, the majority of buyers need an easier access:D And apparently that tucked under look is a hit with buyers and clearguard sellers. I can assure you that widebody vette is a completely different animal when the bottom is widened and fender flares extended to cover the tires. I know because I am over half way there right now just building my own.

The 2006 Elise with Sport package could go 0-60 in 4.0 seconds. That compared favorably to the base Corvette and it had a base price in the 40's. It's handling was/is far better than the Corvette. It's performance at street speeds very good. It suffered compared to the Corvette above 70mph. Hardly underperforming and over priced. Sure you had to work it hard to get there, like 8000 rpm clutch dumps to get 4.0 0-60. Would it have been a more exciting car if they put the 345hp Evora S motor in it an kept the weight under 2200 pounds? Sure.

On the plus side it was very exotic. I was peppered with questions everywhere. People thought it cost over $100k. On the minus, it was not for the cushy crowd. It was purpose built to be light. That meant a lack of creature comforts and room, and ease of entry exit. Of course when I had my 86 Vette it wasn't exactly easy to get in and out of, and I was a lot younger and skinnier then. Both were great for dates with women in short skirts.

Lowering the roof line would make the Corvette look wider. It would make entry a little trickier.

Guys, I'm new to this, how do know this corvette is a mule? Thanks!

What else could it be? It is a C6 corvette with some weird underpinnings and a strange exhaust layout.

Widening the lower body and extending the flares sounds interesting, be sure to post pictures. It might look better than the "running boards' used on the ZR1 and carbon cars. The trick will be to keep it from looking too "fat", especially if painted a light color. The "tucked under" look helps reduce the visual mass of a large sportscar.

this may take a few more months, right now, it is way too rough to show but I can assure you it is quite a sight and the car looks like a completely different animal and real animal too and you do not have to worry about rocks hitting the rear ducts or slapping splash guards on the front fenders... This stuff takes a long time because you in essence build your own car and some ideas have to be tweaked or scrapped altogether....

Corvette should be made the best super car and priced at no less than $100K.

Ferrari sound....... = Flatplane Crank!!!????? =)

and then it would lose its traditional customer base, change the entire point of the car, and lose its place as "America's Sports car" to the new mustang, which handles very well as of now, and will only improve when it gets IRS in '14 and is priced in the 30/40's.

^ I don't know how you define "traditional customer base" but I do know that Corvette always and still stand as the best performance sports car in America and it is that which draws its customers into -- history to date and hopefully, the future.

If it is the price of "no less than $100K" that you ascribe the loss of "traditional customer base", that price is just about the same as the price of the Vette historically, but now-adjusted + cost of improvement.

It is the same analogy as mentioned in the new survey that Vette (brand new) buyers are earning an average of $140K annually.

If I may, I think what has changed is the "traditional used Vette customer base". They are becoming younger, more eager to modify, and wants a cheaper price so they can afford it.

This car is at the proving grounds, probably seeing a lot of W.O.T. When you look at Z06/NPP pipes at track days the two "open" pipes look completely black like that due to the rich mixture at W.O.T. With a closer picture I think we'd see that all 4 are shaped the same.

Looking carefully at the close-up of the rear we see the pipes are a couple inches higher than a C6. Much of the black panel has been cut out, up to the top rib. With pipes this far from the ground, the plan may be for the exhaust to exit through an opening in the rear body panel rather than below it (hopefully better-executed than on the Stingray/Sideswipe concepts :ack:)

The Corvette use to be affordable for the average American. With your suggestion, that would no longer be the case. No thank you sir.

Do you Guys think there will be a Z06 version available for sale in late 2013?

Not that soon. To get the most life out of the C7 design it's expected to be introduced as the coupe first, followed by the convertible, then the Z06.

Yes, that makes common sense to me.........If you had to guess how long of an extra time will I have to wait to buy a C7 Z06?

So the current buyer would now have to spend 100% of his annual after tax wages on Corvette renewal every five years or so. That's on top of his 1 million dollar home mortgage.

I want one too. Optimistically I'd hope for the C7 Z06 as a 2015 model in September of 2014. But if the convertible debuts too much later than the coupe the Z06 could be even later.

Well if you look at the C5 and C6 as any indication, you will have to wait at least 1 year, maybe several years longer before a Z06 option can come along.

The narrow wheels means nothing to me really. Narrow wheels are typical for test mules or anyone wanting to spare some $$ testing a car (the GS and Z06 tires are super expensive compared to the regular width C6 tires).


Only thing I can think of is that they are testing an engine, I can't really see anything else... it can't be a whole platform unless if GM is going to ride the same platform on the new vehicle which means not a whole lot will change.


For all we know they might just be testing new exhaust and sounds.

Not really. My Dad had a 'vette when he was 19, and I bought my Z06 a few days before my 25th birthday. We are getting OLDER.

lets put it this way. A base 'vette goes for barely over $40K right now. Are you telling me that we will all be making 200% more money in 2-3 years? Further, a 1984 corvette, adjusted for inflation, is within a few thousand dollars of what a 2012 corvette costs.

Pricing the car at $100K is not adjusting anything. It's pricing the car outside of the range of middle-America.

Traditionally, the corvette was a car that the blue-collar "working man" could afford.

You're just wanting to have the right to swagger around in your plastic Chevy like you own something rare/exotic and it's never going to happen, and if that "never" comes to be, it's going to ruin the brand.

To me, the corvette is an alternative to the mustang for a few thousand more. Not an alternative to the Ferrari for a few hundred thousand less.

I'm with Kingsize......if you look at the blue tape it is appears to be holding wires from the cabin in place for the mics. Sort of the same thing Harley does to engineer a specific exhaust note.

I couldn't disagree more with all of your points.


If you have been to vette meeting, you will see most drivers are much older. It's a proven fact that vette drivers are targeted towards the middle aged individuals as it should (insurance rates reflect this also).

With Inflation it's the same!? The C1 1953 was $3,498. Adjusted from 1953 to 2011 inflation, that is $29,572.12 in todays money.


Middle-America was never meant to drive this car... At over 3 times Chevys cheapest car... it was never meant to be a middle car. ~$50k sticker price on a car that can only be driven by two people and only in the summer is not middle at all...


Since you're comparing a Mustang to a vette... I can already see your mindset and I doubt anything I prove to you will change otherwise.

My dad bought a brand new 1969 Corvette right before he went into the Navy out of college. Brand spanking new with both tops. How many College grads can buy a brand new Corvette now right before going into the military, or other career?

The Corvette was always attainable by Middle America. Pricing it to the level of the ZR1 will destroy it's heritage.

While I agree with the above, I just want to make a minor correction. The base Vette goes for a hair under $50,000. Per GM's website, $49,045. But the truth is that you're not going to find a single new Corvette on any lot for less than $50,000 before taxes. You'd have to order the base and even then you're not getting out for less than $50K after tax and licensing.

The monthly cost on a new Vette is around $700/mo (not including insurance) with decent credit. That's honestly doable for a lot of people. While that's not a problem for people that have picked a career and stuck to it, you're going to be hard pressed to find people 18-24 that could afford that kind of payment. I bought my first Vette when I was 25 with monthly payments of $360 and $400/mo for insurance (I had a suspension on my record at the time). So I was paying $760/mo for my car with no problem whatsoever. I could have afforded another $300/mo for my car budget. I don't know how may people in my age group could afford that, but I believe with the way education and job-fair is going these days the number is growing.

GM is right in aiming for a younger demographic. The only thing I'm worried about is my insurance going up because of it! LOL The fact that Corvettes have usually been in the 40-60 year old demographic market has kept my insurance rates down and the eyes of law enforcement off me. But as more younger guys get their hands on these cars, our luck may change.

I think you've lost touch with the fact that you are driving a car with the same steering-wheel as a Cobalt. I like to pat myself on the back, too, but you're just having false delusions if you actually think what you are driving is some elitist type vehicle.

In 1953 the average US income was a hair over $4,000. Today, it is 43,000 for a 25+ year-old full-time worker.

At any rate, I own one, plenty of my friends have owned newer 'vettes that are my age, and no-matter how much you want to crow about it, you're going to see some guy my age waving at you on the freeway from a car "just as exclusive" as yours :P

They better drag there feet. The economy as is will not support too many sales,
needed for the BS change. yeah a few gotta have one people here, but falls off
quickly once first orders are filled.

How can GM let the C7 corvette debut with a gen 5 V8 with only 440hp if ....BMW is releasing its M3 with 450hp turbo six? GM needs to get 470hp out of the GEN 5 V8 even if the C7 is lighter than the c6...IMO I also want a MCT planetary gearbox with computer controls like Mercedes Benz or a DCT dual clutch like BMW.. (at least if GM wants to get me as a 3 time new corvette buyer (2 c5's and 1 c6) to open my wallet and pay full sticker... I would for 470hp lift off roof with a DCT or MCT transmission...Anyways...

here's the latest BMW news..

BMW will adapt the single-turbo N55 inline-six for duty in our favorite 3 Series. But how many turbos?

Some reports indicate two, while others say three (two traditional snails and an electric turbo). But no matter the configuration, expect output to be up over 450 horsepower and torque to swell to nearly 400 pound-feet.

Regardless of what's under the hood, development of the next M3 is well underway in Germany as BMW gears up for the release of the standard 3 Series successor.

This first batch of M3 spy shots don't show much aside from blacked-out 19-inch wheels, a widened body sans hood bulge and quartet of exhaust pipes. Stylistically, the next 3er is set to take cues from the recently revealed i brand, including new "angle eye" LED daytime running lamps that are flat on the top and bottom, and fitted to a more upright, angular fascia.

The fully redesigned 3 is set to debut later this year, with sales beginning in early 2012. As for the M3, don't expect it to hit until 2013 and 2014 model

Your math is off a little. In the 1953, the average cost of a house was 8,450 USD. Today, without the housing bubble, the average house cost is 10 times that. So in reality, that 3,498 is really 34,980. Which sounds about right for the car that the first gen corvette was...a roadster. You also have to take into account that in the 50s, america enjoyed an economic boom, the biggest one in her history. That affects value, which affects prices. A better example would be to take a corvette from the 60s, and do the same comparison. When gauging inflation, you have to compare housing costs of the time period, vs housing cost of today. Housing is the staple, the backbone of our entire economy. Sure, you can read about how our inflation rate is set at 2.8 percent, or whatever, but the real story is in the realestate market. That is how we can better determine value.

As for your other idea...the car was designed, from day one, to be a proper sports car for americans. It was built to be competitive with the cars from over the pond, which were perceived to be only for the wealthy, for various reasons. It has remained true to that ideal for over half a century. 50,000 IS a lot of cash to throw down on a limited use 2 seater, but it's not unobtainable. A plumber, carpenter, restaurant manager, etc, can all work towards the goal of buying one of these cars new. Sure, they have to work harder than non middle class, upper crust folks, but again, it's not unobtainable. Yet, anyway.

The real issue GM is facing right now, is that the middle class in america are vanishing like a fart in the wind. So the question becomes, how long do they design a car and market it towards a demographic that is increasingly more rare? How long before they decide that the middle class can no longer support the car's existence, and either do away with it altogether, or make it more appealing to the folks that would rather buy an AMG Mercedes, Porsche 911 turbo, or Audi R8? Times.


They are a changing.

Plan to sell the Bimmer before the warranty expires. The normal maintenance costs suddenly turned way out of whack on mine. This caused me to sell it pronto!

coming at this from a diff. angle
 

hey all,...this is fascinating to me 'cause i come at this from a diff. perspective,...namely as a porsche owner,...and this argument that some are making that the corvette should now be priced at 100k and above is interesting,...it really would compete with the 911 in price point then [the zo6 and certainly the zr1 do already!],...don't know what the crossover would be,...i get into LOTS of heated discussions with my porsche brethren already about my love of the 'vette,...both have massive heritage and just plain "fun to drive"appeal[esp. rwd 911's, not so much the awd porsches],...so i tend to agree with those that are saying the the vette would really lose it's base if it was priced that high,...it truly would then have to bump up it's build quality and cabin, etc,....don't know if G.M. can do that yet,..hell,...look what happened to porsche when they got all cocky,..[had to come crawling back to beg V.W. to buy them back!and thought they could buy V.W., just in time for the global meltdown!,...so i think the vette is marketed just about right right now,...sort of filsl it's niche very well,...vette, then porsche-bmw, then upwards to lambo's and feerari's etc.,...not that vettes are cheapened by that comparo,...i've ALWAYS considered them to be THE performance bargain for a true blue drivers car!,...not the porsche...

I agree with your conclusion. The market has shifted away from the top middle class partly because it is vanishing fast. I'm not sure about your housing argument. Here in California you can't even get a rats hole in a dumpster for $100,000 with or without the housing bubble. So what's this $84,500 you're talking about? And why deny the bubble, it happened; we have to live with it.

I agree with all your points. But I don't see why I should regard BMW as higher up in the food chain. Any Vette owner can buy a BMW.

I'm watching for the next generation M3 as well. It should be introduced around the same time as the C7.

Since I bought my M, I've put 15,000 miles on it versus 400 miles on my vette. The M3 is such a joy to drive. Hopefully the C7 will exceed my expectations.

competing with a volkswagen beetle does not sound like much of a challenge:rock:

KevinK and Ockie - you're both part right on the cost question. If you look at the "real" starting price of each generation when it came out, it went up through the C4 but has stayed the same for almost 30 years now.

Personally I think they have the formula about right - providing a base that can go toe to toe with a 911 on an upper-middle salary, while offering a high-end version that can make the Euro crowd squirm. The only changes I'd make would be to throw another $2,500 or so at the interior so it's harder for the elitist crowd to dismiss. Classier than a Mustang, less pretentious than a Porsche or Ferrari.

It's based on an average throughout the entire country. In central FL, you can buy a house for 40,000 right now. In CT, where I live, a rat shack on the side of the street in a crappy area will run you 150,000, minimum. But for the majority of houses out there right now, it's between 80 and 90 thousand. I deny the bubble, because when you talk about comparisons from old to new, cost wise, it's best to first establish value of currency, which bubbles affect. You want a baseline reading, to get the most accurate results.

Agreed. Corvette needs to remain a performance bargain.

Michael

Ugh! Let's hope not. I hope some idiot GM manager didn't get a bug up his rear about the Corvette sounding like something it shouldn't. I'm not saying Ferrari's don't sound good, but if I wanted my car to sound like a Ferrari, then I would buy one. I want my Corvette to sound like it has an American V8, which in my opinion is still the best engine sound out there. The American V8 is a national anthem. We Americans love our V8s. The Amercian V8 sound is our culture.

Michael

Because the M5 and M6 compare in performance to a base 'vette and cost...a little more.

Also, BMW's interior blows the 'vette away hands down. Their lowest quality 3-series feels nicer than my Z06 to me.

It's a nicer car. It' costs more. Just because it doesn't pull more g's or have a faster 0-60 does not place it lower on the food-chain. It's a nicer, more expensive car.

Considering the money spent on the plant, and the fact that GM has acknowledged that the C6 is "an embarrassment" regarding interior, I think that the C7 is going to finally be a world-class vehicle in every way, not just performance. I fully intend to trade my Z06 for on if GM isn't too proud of them.

Ah! Ok. I know what you mean about the interior. I had a better one in my BMW. But I thought a Vette would be more fun. And I was right about that. I'm not attracted at all by the M6, so I didn't think too much about it. I wonder how well it fares on the 'Ring.

supposedly now that GM has all hands on deck..the new C7 interior is supposed to be far and away better than any competition...

I don't really care about interiors at all. I'm fine with my c6 interior. The cars a blast and I just ordered up a DSVette Alcantara D shaped wheel for laughs..The center console...and the arm rests have aftermarket pieces as well.

what I want to see is a DCT or MCT transmission as an option and 475hp standard....

BMW's are nice sedans and Crossovers......the convertibles and sports cars are kind of .......

Nothing beats driving a vette if you dig sports cars...supercars ...worlds best..

JMO

If we were able to send men on the moon in the seventies, what's car interiors really. It's just a question of attitude. I just hope the critics will be silenced once and for all. It could be the start of something big. Like taking back the reigns of our economy. Someone take me off my soap box. I'm getting tense. LOL

Critics will never be silenced. Once the interior issue is "solved", they will move on to how the corvette isn't made entirely out of kevlar and carbon fiber. Or how it doesn't get 45mpg, or that the wheels don't fold in to make it fly, like that delorian in back to the future.

I can agree with that.

I thought they said there would be a dramatic change in the C7, this doesnt look dramatic to me. Dont like the looks of the exhaust at all. I hope they change the body more than that.

I dont believe that is the c7 being tested, .

I believe if you remove the bullcrap from the front and rear of the concept you have the actual c 7 corvette sweet design. It's low, narrow, has the hips of the stingray and the car gets narrow towards the rear. totally stingray.

I think you have something there. Basically it is the thing to do to bash anything American.

Yeah... Let them bash our cars while their jealousy seeps out from behind their grins. They'll never be happy as long as the Corvette keeps demolishing everything they come out with.

I love everything about my Z06 but the interior. It is the worst interior I have seen in a car that costs more than $12,000. I love my car, and I would buy it again in a heartbeat, but the interior is junk. The stereo sucks and has BAD resonance/vibration in all the body-panels if you turn it up past 1/8 volume or move the bass past 1/2 way. In-short, my 2002 Infiniti G20 (a tarted up Sentra) is a better built car, interior-wise. Will definitely trade for a C7 when it's out.

It may have nothing to do with a C7.. Manufacturers have design teams that are
constantly working on something. They could be testing a motor or some driveline
for 10 years down the road. Probably some C6 running around with nothing but
batteries under the hood. Or a 4 cyl model. They got to look further down the road
than next couple of years.

If they have a battery powered car that sounds like a Ferrari like that mule in this thread...I'm in! :thumbs:

The official 2013 911 pictures just leaked. I think the Corvette guys can match it style-wise and easily trump the base and S models in performance.

LOL at OFFICIAL pictures leaking out-if they leaked out, they are not official, right? The manuf has to release them to make them official.:D

Semantics. :lol:

I'm sure Porsche wasn't trying too hard to prevent them from surfacing...

porsche has nothing to hide, all they do is recycle the same car over and over for 50 years.

And that seems to be a winning formula for them ...

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