what detector ? k40, 9500ci or 9500xi
 

hey all,

trying to decide what radar detector to get...totally confused....

it is between

the k40 360 remote install
escort 9500ci remote install
escort 9500xi with blendmount and dashtronix for HUD
and of course the v1 with blendmount and dashtronix

i am leaning towards the escorts over the k40 and the v1 due to the fact it has the gps and database functionality..not sure if its good or not but sounds good on paper....

the cost between the 9500xi and the 9500ci is a large amount since i want to use the blinder as the laser shifter...so if i get the CI it has the laser shifter but not the one i ideally would like...

i am thinking the 9500xi on the blendmount will be just as nice as the remote one...it is clean...thoughts??

help me decide this tough decision....

larry

Get the best. The Valentine One has the arrows to tell you where the bogey is and how many in what direction. That's essential. The other radar detectors can only beep and flash lights :lol:

Using the Valentine One along with the DashTronix Radar Projector puts all this information in the Heads Up Display (HUD) so the radar detector itself stays dark and stealth, but still gives the audio alarm. This is a great combination! :thumbs:

http://www.dashtronix.com/images/demo_screen_5.gif

9500ix hands down!!!! I absolutely love mine,especially around town, all your false signals are locked out by the GPS so you don't have to listen to it go off all the time. (drugstores and banks are the worse) Unlike the V1 which sings falses like a humming bird. And on road trips in other Towns and cities your notified where the red light cameras are,you receive weekly data base updates by connecting to your computer via USB. V1 owners are always touting the arrows so you know the direction,I say who cares? When the radar does go off you hit the brakes!!!

Do **not** get the Escort!.....

Yes, it is a great unit (I have one 9500ix) but Escort customer service is non-existent! If you do managed to wake them up and tend to your problem, they are expensive.:crazy:

Just my 2 cents....

9500ix all the way
 

Say goodby to the false alerts....and having the gps for the speed cameras and stop light cameras is awesome. I love mine! If you do a lot of traveling they send you updates frequently so that they can be downloaded. The update usually has the specific state involved.

I have the XI and with the blendmount it looks awesome! Works great too. I hope to test it a bit more this spring/summer with the vette.

I would curious to the person who got the redline how that works. That was a close second.

Personally I think the V1 is old and kind of dated. Not bad but, it needs a nice refresh for sure.

I thought I was the only one that thinks the V1 blows with all the false squawking. After 2.5 years I either didn't pay attention or just shut it off. I sold mine to a neighbor 3 weeks ago.

On a side note...
 

Does the dashtronix silence the detector when it's hooked up like the concealed unit does??In other words,does all the light and noise shift to the HUD UNIT??
I like the V1 for the arrows and if you go on their site you can fine tune the unit to block out completely or partially the x band if it's not used in your area and the K as well.There was a thread with video on this quite a while back so it is possible.No need for X band in most places,which coincidentally is the frequency of most false alarms.Although,I suppose a system that goes BEEP BEEP without indication of where they are or how many there may be is good for something...Who cares about traffic lights with cameras unless your plan is to run every red light you come to.Oh and I remember years ago they did a test on the X40 or similar system and it did not work as advertised.Take that for what it's worth.

I have run K40 radar detectors for many years now and they have saved me countless times. I am currently running the K40 Calibre in my Z06. It has both front and rear sensor mounted up behind the bumper skinds along with laser diffusers. Its controlled by a small wireless remote. The led's are installed in my air vents so its completely stealth. Left center vent is a front hit and right center vent is a rear hit.

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My second choice if concealed wasn't a factor would be the Valentine 1 along with the Dashtronix module. I just don't like having anything that could invite a break in visible and the V1 needs to have a clear shot of the road.

:iagree:I was an early adopter of the 9500ix and love it, we take frequent trips from San Antonio to the Dallas Metroplex and now we get very few false alarms and lots of Red Light cameras in the Dallas area and I always know where they are athttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...pepperflag.gif

Yea,I remember those days.I don't use mine around town though because I do my best to stay within legal limits.On the highway is where it matters most to me and there aren't many falsies out there.Direction is everything however!I want to know if they are coming up behind me,in front of me or where!!With the beeps if they are miles behind you you could be driving slow all day before they finally get to you!Happened to me a couple of months ago.Got the warning with the arrow pointing backwards (behind me).I slowed down and sure enough a couple of minutes later there he went right by me.What beep beep will tell you that??I say again,who cares what red lights have cameras unless you plan on running every red light you come to!The other may be the latest fad,but really,all I care about is where the cops are and how soon I find out!

The valentine one has arrows. That's it's only claim to fame. I have yet to have a LELO sneak up from behind me. So the threat is in front of you.

I have the 9500ix and love it. After you pass by the same place 3 times it remembers the spot where this false alarm went off, and you don't hear it again. Also the red light camera warning and speed cameras are a real blessing. There is also a mark button to mark an area as a speed trap and then when you do your weekly update your information is updated in the data base and then you download other peoples updated spots as well.

Great detector and the updates do cost money for a yearly but it's reasonable IMHO.

Until there is a cop sitting there one day and you get nabbed.;)

I have an older k40 that was installed before I bought my Vette. It works just fine though I do get a lot of false noise if I don't have the thing set right. I've never gotten a speeding ticket with it. I have no experience with the others so I can't really comment.

:iagree::iagree: Love my Redline...sometimes it still amazes me with its range.:thumbs:

Redline??Something new??Pictures??:)

Yes I should live my life in a paranoid bubble like you seem to be? I keep my speed down around town and don't expect to get a ticket while doing the speed limit. What I was saying is that unlike the V1 the 9500ix will automatically mark these spots as common false alert. V1 won't do that and keep blaring at you no matter how many times you pass the same bank that sets off a detector.

http://www.escortradar.com/store/ESC...-Detector.html:thumbs:

Larry,

I have been a long time radar user in 07 when Escort came out with there 9500ci I bought that to replace my K40 Calibre radar detector no reason other then to get something new. I also have driven with the V1 great for what it is but lets be honest it is a portable ( dashmount radar) with limitations and could never be compaired to a remote installed radar like the K40 or the 9500ci. For a vehicle like yours, I would highly recommend the K40 radar detector they offer the most protection then anythine else out there, the new K40 RL360. I have since replaced my 9500ci with this system went it came out a couple months ago and let me tell you..... The K40 RL360 is the best radar I have driven with to date. before making your decision at least check it out I am extremely happy with it. I decided to go with ther pods instead of the small leds just because I did not want to drills holes anywhere. check this video out I found on there Youtube channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4NTUhzXmSE

regardless of what you decide, at least then you will have some protection right? LOL

Drive Fast
Live Hard
Work Slow

Thanks cclive.Looks like a nice system.

Can it be turned off??I only saw 1 cop with all that chirping going on.False alarms there??How much?

:bs
This does not sound like the company I've dealt with for over 25 years. The few times I have ever needed their assistance, Escort (and Cincinnati Microwave before them) has responded immediately and very professionally.

The only combination I would not yet endorse for Escort owners would be the Dashtronix HUD remote simply because Escort does not export most of the information shown on its comprehensive internal display. Today only the Escort's received signal strength can be exported thru a Dashtronix unit to the HUD.

Hey Eritosthenes, so who did you have locally install your detection ?

I have the 9500ix and could not be happier. The almost total elimination of false alerts was key for me. If mine goes off its almost always a copper. Love it. I was completely blown away at the range of this thing too. My buddy also has a vette and he saw mine in action and bought it the next day. Never used the TV so I can't compare the two except for false alarms...good luck!

That should say V1 ...not tv. Word replace...ugh.

K40 is a great neat mount but for my money the best protection a man can get is a Valentine 1.

That would only apply if the locked out signal and the now cop sitting there were using the same radar wave, ie. K - K.

I'm always amused at the Escort fan boys who keep yelling the V1 gives false alerts :lol:

The Valentine One does not give false alerts. If the V1 goes off, it is receiving a radar signal. Whether that is threat to you or not can only be determined by you - learn to use your radar detector. Program it for your specific driving conditions and tune out those alerts that are not important for you. Keep your eyes open and be aware of your surroundings. This should be common sense.

As for the V1 going off near automatic doors, strip malls, etc. Why would you even use a radar detector on city streets? Why would you plan to exceed speed limits in city driving near pedestrians/children?

IMO any radar detector is only useful for highway/freeway driving with long distances well outside urban areas where it may be safe to exceed the posted speed limits, but lets not get into an ethical debate. Simple point is, strip malls and grocery stores are not speed limit threats and I don't use a radar detector to keep me safe from them :lol:

Both the Escort and the Valentine are both excellent radar detectors. Having used the Valentine for a couple years I can't imagine not having the arrows. The Valentine gives so much more information.

+1 for Escort Redline.

:iagree::iagree: WELL SAID!!:thumbs:

How the K40 radar detector works is when it initially detects a threat it first start slowly beeping and as the closer you get it giggers up leeting you know you are getting closer. After 3-5 seconds it automatically reduces the volume 50% and after a minute long it will automatically mute itself. That video basically shows the K40 Radar RL360 having tremendous range, not to say that the V1 or Escort doesnt either. In my personal experience I fell that the K40 offers the best mixture of features, range etc.

[As for the V1 going off near automatic doors, strip malls, etc. Why would you even use a radar detector on city streets? Why would you plan to exceed speed limits in city driving near pedestrians/children?

IMO any radar detector is only useful for highway/freeway driving with long distances well outside urban areas where it may be safe to exceed the posted speed limits, but lets not get into an ethical debate. Simple point is, strip malls and grocery stores are not speed limit threats and I don't use a radar detector to keep me safe from them :lol:

That is the very thing outside of the K40's new RL360 you couldnt drive in a downtown city because the radar would consistantly go off due to the auto doors, alarms etc. K40's radar detector now have a feature called quite ride, you can set a specifc speed based upon where you are driving. For example when I drive through town I set the quite ride to 35MPH and as long as I am going under 35 it will disable the audio alerts which will get rid of all those falses, the munte I exceed 35 which then I am speeding the audio alert engage and I will be alerted of any threat, pretty awesome if you ask me. The Escort of V1 does not do that !

The Valentine One does not give false alerts. If the V1 goes off, it is receiving a radar signal.

Actually that is false statement, there are plenty things that operate on a simliar freq as police radar. Automatic doors on grocery store, gas stations, bank alarms that ANY radar detector will pick up unless it has a feature to eliminate those falses and in my experience with the V1 it tends to be the most sensitive and will pick all of those up more times then other. Just anf FYI

Or you can just turn off :lol:

That's my point. If the V1 goes off, then it is receiving a signal - period. That's not a *false* alert.

I think people just don't want take the effort to learn. The V1 is easily programmable. There's a lot of information on the Valentine One web site.

IMO people come here to this forum and ask redundant questions which are almost always discussed in detail in the owners manual or in other threads already, but people want someone else to take the time to explain it to them once more.

Screaming *false alerts* is very easy, but once you do a little reading, find out what radar bands are used in your specific areas, adjust the unit to suit your own needs, you're good. This is not a difficult thing to do :thumbs:

:iagree: Thing has awesome range too! I feel naked without it!

A False alert is when the radar goes off to a non-police radar and a automatic door is a non-police radar freq. Yes the V1 is programable as far as the sensitivity goes but that will also effect it's range. We can go back anf fourth all day on this the bottom line is ( To each his own ) they all have something to offer.

[QUOTE=keyplyr;1576503652]Or you can just turn off :lol:



Turn it off????? Then why buy it!

I would much rather have a radar that is fully customizable to where and how I drive without tunning the sensitivity as you would have to do on the V1. :cheers:

:crazy: It is a false alert to me! If the cell phone tower or other source sets it off! While your speeding on the interstate! Who wants that signal alert! :crazy: If it's not law enforcement! I don't want it going off! Thats COMMON SENSE! The 9500xi sorts those out so if goes off it's more likely to be law enforcement. Than the V-1! It also tells you what speed you were going when it picked up the signal. More important than the arrows to me.

No - that's you misinterpreting what's going on :lol:


Wrong again. No need to change the sensitivity in order to exclude the X band that most often is used for door openers, etc. Just turn off that band if you know that X band is no longer used for law enforcement in your specific area.

But the bigger picture here is (as I wrote earlier) there's no need to even use a radar detector in the city where you may encounter strip malls w/ door openers. Why would you speeding in the city where it is extremely unsafe? Hell, I'll call the law on you myself!

OK...I will eat crow on this one!....:smash:

After many attempts, Escort did get back to me today...maybe they read the Forum!?....:yesnod:

Sorry any possible misinformation.:blueangel:

I been running Escort radar detectors a long time,this was my first....

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...anp_ExDCEq2_jO

:iagree: I love the way you have yours integrated into the HUD. Beyond cool.:thumbs:

Owned Escorts since 1985 and won't travel without them. Have a 9500xi now and with the GPS and ability to lockout known alarms I love it. Saved me untold thousands in tickets and insurance in 25 years. Only ticket I have gotten in the last 12 years was in Virginia where they are illiegal and can't use them. Escort is the technology leader IMHO.

love my 9500xi, its saved me many many times

Well I don't use a radar detector in town, so in my case this doesn't apply. If you leave your detector on around that type of setting, I can see why you call it a "squawk box." Solution - turn it off until you're on the open highway :thumbs:

Sounds like a personal problem :lol: (just kidding)

Seriously, I don't ignore the radar detector because (once again) I don't leave it on while in city limits. I only use it on the open highway or freeway where I feel it may be safe for me to exceed the posted limit.

All the complaints about the V1 being too sensitive IMO are because people use the detector where it isn't designed to be used. Why would anyone even want to speed inside the city??? Sorry, I don't get it.

I think the Valentine One is an excellent device. I also think the Escort series of radar detectors are excellent, however without the arrows, I wouldn't feel nearly as informed.

I think the Valentine One is an excellent device. I also think the Escort series of radar detectors are excellent, however without the arrows, I wouldn't feel nearly as informed.


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Dude, one question? Have you recieved your peddeling checks from V1 and Escort this month???? LOL

How good would those arrows be when they point the the right or left? It is unfortunate you are sadly mis-informed about radar all together.

They're actually great. When I get a signal, and the arrow's pointing ahead, I know that there's some form of radar in front. When the arrows to the side light up, I know I'm passing the source of the radar signal. I can then look to the sides, and know what the source is, and whether I need to worry about it or not. Travelling through the NW, there are a lot of "Your speed is..." signs - I always can tell if I've just passed the source of the radar (can't always see the ones pointing the other direction), or if I still need to be looking.

BTW - they are called "Radar Detectors", and not "Police Radar Gun Detectors". It's doing it's job if it goes off when there's a radar source. :D You indicated that there's a difference between "Police radar" and non-police radar. Can you share the information? I wasn't aware of any difference - Here's a quote from radar-detector-geeks.com (just one of the sources I looked at):

The other major source of false alarms are the other industries that also use radar: door openers at grocery stores, motion sensor alarms at banks, cell phone towers, airport radar systems, etc. Unlike the issue with other motorist’s radar detectors spewing microwaves, these other sources are not technically different; it’s the exact same equipment, just being used for a different purpose. In a strict technical sense, therefore, they’re not really false alarms at all. What to do? Well, for years there wasn’t really anything to do but grin and bear it. Recently, some of the better detectors have begun to incorporate GPS technology.

:cheers:

9500xi :thumbs:

I prefer to know where the radar is. Speeding or not. Especially around the town. And in cars like ours you know they are just looking for us. Just going around the corner for some milk I make sure my detector is on.

Your opinion::ack::nono::nono:

9500ix
 

Top Reasons to Consider the Escort 9500ix

•End Those Annoying False Alerts! False alerts are the number one compliant among radar detector users and to combat this issue Escort incorporated their AutoLearn feature which utilizes artificial intelligence to automatically learn by the exact location and frequency each radar signal and determines if it is a real threat. The result is the most accurate long range dash mounted radar detector on the market and a permanent solution ends all those false alerts that you may have grown accustom to with other radar detectors.
•Fight Back Against Photo Enforcement: States and municipalities have discovered a new cash cow, photo enforcement cameras. These automated speed cameras are everywhere today snapping our photo and mailing costly citations to our home and businesses. Escort Inc. developed has developed one of the most complete and accurate databases of known fixed camera locations with their DEFENDER Database for North America. Each 9500ix is shipped pre-loaded with thousands of these camera locations programmed into its memory. As you approach one of these locations the 9500ix will alert you in advance, keeping you ticket free. You can even program your own “hot spots” using the Mark Location feature. Programing updates to your 9500ix’s DEFENDER Database is easy online through their detector tools program.
•Download New Firmware Updates Online: New firmware updates are developed by radar detector manufactures on a regular basis to address to address new and emerging technology from the police radar gun manufactures. In the past to have your radar detector upgraded, you had to pay to mail it back to the manufacture and wait weeks to get it back, not anymore! The Escort 9500ix is web ready simply connect your detector to your computer, log into Escorts website and download and install the latest firmware and Defender database updates in minutes.
•Variable Speed Sensitivity: Most of the other radar detectors from other manufactures have two sensitivity settings to combat false alerts; Highway and City. The premise is when you set your radar detector to city; the radar detector is less sensitive and less prone to false alerts. The problem with this is if you forget to set your radar detector back to Highway mode when on the Interstate your detector may not have the range or sensitivity to pick up that patrolman around the corner and now you’re caught. Escort’s solution to this dilemma is their GPS based Variable Speed Sensitivity technology. The GPS inside of the Escort 9500ix senses how fast you are driving and adjusts the sensitivity accordingly and it never forgets.
•Easy Programming: Even if you’re someone like me who cannot program my own TV remote control I find the Escort 9500ix a snap in programming and set-up for its advanced features. The Escort 9500ix is pre-set and ready to go out of the box, but some of our power users may want to set the unit up to complement their own driving experience and personal preference. The easy to use 9500ix’s preferences menu allows you to do this in a snap. Don’t drive in an area where X band is used, turn it off; rather use the Expert Meter display, turn it on. It is that easy.
•Crystal Clear Voice Prompts and Alerts: Keep your eyes on the road, not on your detector! The 9500ix alerts you with clear and easy to understand voice alerts so you will immediately know what threats your detector is alerting you to.
•Self Adjusting AutoVolume: Nothing is more infuriating than having a radar detector go off and not hear it as it alerts you to a speed trap ahead. The 9500ix solves this problem by automatically adjusting the volume based upon the ambient noise surrounding you inside your vehicle ensuring that you will hear it even if you have your radio turned up or if you’re having a conversion with your passengers.

Radar Test: V1 vs. 9500ix

http://www.radartest.com/article_2.asp?articleid=100578

And your point is? :willy:

This forum is nothing but *opinions*

I have the V 1 with the dashtronix. It is awesome and so accurate. Powers up when you start the car and everything is hidden. Mine is on my mirror check out my album pictures. I did a lot of research on the forum and outside it was the V 1 .

Interesting.I still could care less about "in town" because I don't run red lights or speed,but that whole highway thing is something else.I guess V1 has some catching up to do.

Hey keypylr...... "Detection" don't you get it? and as far as you calling the law....that's just BS. If you're scared......then just call the law!

Have a nice day

Wow the test concludes what I have know. The V1 never shuts up. Every 9 minutes it was going off. What good is that? Glad I sold mine and bought an Escort. I turned X and K completely off. Who needs arrows. It goes beep I slow down. When it's done I speed back up. I don't need arrows to tell me to slow down.

V-1 Can not tell how many times it has saved my ass, best one was going down hwy @ 130 plus in my S65 AMG, V-1 warned me locked it up & when I was tagged at 65mph the state PoPo followed me for thirty miles constantly shooting his radar gun. P.S. it was a long thirty miles but no ticket. Other situational moments, but my vote goes for Valentine 1.

You too :cheers:

Very pleased with my 9500ix, Blendmount and Invisicord. :thumbs:

"Why would you speeding in the city where it is extremely unsafe? Hell, I'll call the law on you myself!"

If you are talking blowing thru a residential area...then I would agree it is more dangerous. But a broad term of City doesn't apply. We have many multi lane roads that run thru cities in our area that arre flanked on either side by service roads that have a heavy bussiness presence. The cities love to run radar on the stretches that come thru their town. Many people pass through these towns on a daily basis. Protection is needed for all.
In case your not sure what number to call it's 911....good luck with that!

V1.

Your taking a reply to another post (not even you) out of context for some unknown reason. Probably just to bitch about something. Good luck with that :lol:

It would go off because it would be a different freq. within the same band.

Customer service? Hmmmmm.....

Do you buy a radar detector for customer service?

Has the radar detector saved you from a $500 ticket? Or even jail?

It has me. 9500ix all the way. I can honestly say I have NEVER gotten a ticket in my Vette and I owe it to this radar detector.:thumbs:

Check out this video on YouTube - the guys name is "SpeedTrapHunter". I don't know him but he drives around with a ton of different detectors making multiple passes at radar traps so you see for yourself RDs side by side in real driving situations. No hype. No peddling. He has about 20+ short vids. A real public service IMHO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMIilRyXoe8

Running multiple dashmounts in the same car is far from a good accurate way of testing.
Ask any radar enthusiast or pro tester.

Check these videos out

Escort Redline vs. Ka Band Leo Encounter
This video was .52 secs long and was on a basic straight away highway with the Leo on left side of road. The Redline alerted .14 secs into video they passed the Leo .46 secs into the video giving at most .32 secs of warning time to the driver take a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFXdo8brAnM

K40 RL100 vs. Ka Band Leo Encounter:
This video was .62 secs long also on a straight away highway with the Leo on left side on the road. The K40 RL100 detected .62 secs into video and they passed the Leo .80 secs into video giving the driver .62 secs of warning time. Take a look.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_dNtBAub-4


K40 RL360 Vs. V1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paen1gf_NW4

These are real world driving encounters which we all should base our decisions on and not what we read on the internet. I didnt believe they caught bigfoot when they posted that all over either.... I still think he's out there LOL

I find some perverse joy in the consternation that differing opinions on this subject evoke. I think we could talk trash about each others kids and not see such strident responses. Personally, I have an issue with "the best" radar detector label - it's what works for you.

Now when you get to talking about systems costing over $2,000 as the best thing since toast, and comparing them to systems cost one-fourth that price I think you ought to do some homework. And by all means - consider the source. The "RadarTest" review guy sells systems, so you know he has a bias.

http://radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=100584

Here's another that seems to like the K40 (although I don't think he had to pay for one :D)

http://www.autoblog.com/2005/10/06/k...er-protection/

That said, you don't have to be impartial to notice fertilizer has a "certain piquant bouquet" ... That's not bias - it's an observation. BS smells like BS :ack:

Finally. desperat-vette would you please post pics of your instal in your Vette? I am sure we'd all like to see what a K40 looks like in a users ride. :yesnod:

SilvrVette,

I am not sure I understand your post, you radartest article by " Craig Petterson...LOL can you say Sabotage ...Everyone knows he is in the pockets of Escort. We will write a favorable review on any product for the right amount of money. The Autoblog article was done in 2005 product when it first came out. Can we compare current product at least?

I will agree with you that you can not compare in $2,000 installed radar like the 9500ci or K40 to the V1, your right different product different price range. Seeing that the V1 hasnt change in a decade doesnt offer the features some of the current portable or dashmount radars like the K40 RL100 or the Escort 9500ix both othering GPS features and great detection performance now lets compare prices. The RL100 is $349.95 and the 9500ix is $499.95 and the V1 is $499 as well but doesnt have near the features of the 9500ix or the RL100 you can see for yourself how the K40 RL100 compares to the Escort redline and V1 which is touted for it's range on my above post.

Your right we can argue all day like but when it comes down to it it is your choice what you want for radar protection.

Cheers.

Oh yea I will take a pic of my Z06 with the K40 RL360 installed in it and post them ASAP for you.

To the OP, any of the systems you first referenced will be fine, except the K40.

K40 = way over priced for inferior performance.

There is a new detector out from Beltronics you may want to consider. The STi-R Plus was just released into the US market in the last few weeks.

Basically a 9500ci without the worthless Escort ZR4 shifters.

Go with the proven best! 9500ix. It is so good that you can block out repeats because it has memory using GPS. Plus when a cop pings me, I don't see him yet for another 5 minutes. This detector is no joke!

How are these things with lidar? I got poped this afternoon by an undercover California Highway Patrol unit that was on the side of the road with his door open zapping people.. I doubt a detector in this type of situation would help.

Detectors won't help but jammers definitely work.

If you have your laser/radar detector pointed just right - you'll get an additional 10 sec notice to get out your licence and registration ... cuz "yur azz is grazz"

Only thing that's going to work for you there is a laser shifter (i.e., jammer)

There's a few systems out there and a few forums dedicated to discussing the pros and cons (ad nausium IMHO)

Hit the send button too soon.

PM me if you want a link to the Radar/Lidar fanatics forum. They are some serious ECM/IRCM fanatics.

???? :toetap: (Waiting)

:rofl::rofl::rofl: :crazy2:

I am leaning toward the Redline - primarily because I want the range of a V1 but immunity to the new SpectreIV RDD. In VA they cite you for having a RD. Any feel if the STi-R Plus is detectable by the new Spectres? I will do some checking on my own as well.

STi-R Plus like the Redline, 9500ci and STi-Driver are all Spectre immune.

Applied Concepts has even admitted there will be no advances in the Spectre as the emissions from these detectors is below the background level existing in the atmosphere.

Any of these are perfect for VA!!!

I found this one interesting. A bunch of geeks testing a K40 laser jammer
Check out this video on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQsa5HltHe0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQsa5HltHe0

We prefer the term enthusiasts.

That is exactly what I have seen every time I shot one of the K40 units with lidar, basically nothing. Keep that $2500 to pay the speeding tickets, or but a decent defense system.

Radar : Valentine Research, Escort or Beltronics

Lidar: Laser Interceptor or Blinder

I've been using detectors for almost 30 years. I've most recently owned the Valentine, 9500ix, K40 360, and the 9500ci. I just removed the K40 from my car and replaced it with the CI. The only time the K40 went off was when I was within line of sight of the cop. No, he wasn't popping his gun. I've traveled that corridor for over 20 years...they don't work that way. The second I got the CI, life was good again.
K40's customer service is extraordinarily responsive, but that can't make up for a bad product.

I have had an escort 9500i for 4 years and it has been extraordinarily reliable and consistent. It offers great detection at some very impressive distances when under the right circumstances. It has saved my insurance and therefore my wallet! Which means more MODS :cheers: