Originally Posted by raff
(Post 1596498950)
Roar qualifying:
#66 - 1:43.610 #4 - 1:43.640 #67 - 1:43.714 #3 - 1:43.998 Rolex qualifying: #3 - 1:42.779 #66 - 1:42.798 #67 - 1:43.091 #4 - 1:43.453 Rolex fastest lap: #67 - 1:44.054 #66 - 1:44.086 #4 - 1:44.437 #3 - 1:44.517 Other than #3 which went from winning the pole by 2/100 to being 1/2 second slower per lap in race trim -- all the other cars/times seem consistent. The 2nd place ford was able to run basically the same time in qualifying as pole but did so on lap 12 or 13 when tires were past their max grip, and the ford was all by himself not drafting anyone.... that right there told us that it was going to be a long race. About your fastest lap time comparisons.... its kind of misleading... yes although the Ferrari was faster than the fords by less than a 10th of a second, the Ferrari was pushing at 100% and I do not think the fords were, I think they could have done a 1:43.xxx any time they wanted to but did not need to cuz they had control of the race. I think this because one of the fords (cant remember number) ran its 1:44.0 on lap 6 of the race! That shouldn't happen because as the track rubbers up the times always come down... Fastest times will usually come sometime on sunday as it did for every other GTLM car..... Another reason is that the fords were basically running within 2-4 secs (sometimes less) of each other at the front the entire race.... well when they would get split up due to slower gtd traffic and be 6-8 seconds apart..... the trailing Ford after a lap or 2 would be right back up to the 2-4 second gap they were told to maintain.... and the trailing ford could do this at will by running a little harder (97%) for a lap or 2 to catch back up to the sister car and then settle back into cruise mode...... There was just no need for ford to show their true pace and risk BOP penalties..... I think if one of the ford had minor problems and had to fight back up threw the field, we would have seen faster than 1:44 times from Ford. |
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Originally Posted by myvette_99
(Post 1596501912)
The only reason the vettes were fast in qualifying is because we were drafting each other, and we reached out fastest times on our optimal laps when the tires were up to temp and pressures and were not greasy yet around laps 3-6 or their abouts. After that the tires get greasy and lap times fall off.
The 2nd place ford was able to run basically the same time in qualifying as pole but did so on lap 12 or 13 when tires were past their max grip, and the ford was all by himself not drafting anyone.. . On the subject of qualifying -- none of the cars ran more than 9 laps. While #3 set his fast time on lap 4, everyone else set their fast times on lap 5 (66 & 911), lap 6 (24, 25, 912), lap 7 (4 & 67), and lap 8 (62). http://results.imsa.com |
Originally Posted by sunsalem
(Post 1596479056)
I think the difference is the GTD team was monkeying around with the refueling rig DURING the race.
Apparently, it was fine when it was tested before the race when IMSA tested it. http://www.racer.com/more/viewpoints...=1&limitstart= Have a good one, Mike |
Prior to all of this IMSA on-board telemetry business, you just did some cheatin' to get that extra speed. Time-honored, especially in NASCAR. All Corvette Racing needed was a tenth or two per lap--IMSA would have hardly noticed.
Just out of curiosity, which car has the bigger fuel tank? |
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Originally Posted by raff
(Post 1596503470)
Thanks for the insight --
On the subject of qualifying -- none of the cars ran more than 9 laps. While #3 set his fast time on lap 4, everyone else set their fast times on lap 5 (66 & 911), lap 6 (24, 25, 912), lap 7 (4 & 67), and lap 8 (62). http://results.imsa.com |
Originally Posted by myvette_99
(Post 1596509451)
You are correct about the lap numbers..... I have no idea how I came up with 12..... I was listening to quali live in the car while still traveling to daytona from Wisconsin.... I must have misunderstood the laps while i was focused on traffic haha. :thumbs:
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Le Mans Entry List Posted.
As has been the case, the boys in yellow will be #63 and #64. Some notes: A large 17 car GTE Pro class: -Risi is not bringing their Ferrari and will not be in GTE Pro. They will be running Ben Keatings GTE Am Ferrari. -Ford again is entering their 4 cars -Porsche is following suit and running 4 cars -AF Corse is running 3 Ferraris -Finally get the BMWs in their new car runing Le Mans with 2 cars -Aston has 2 of their new Turbo V8 Vantages No other Corvettes as Labre has moved to LMP2 with a Ligier. IMSA's IMSA's JDC-Miller team declined their automatic invite. Should be a good one, and with 17 cars, winning will be well deserved (as long as there is some reasonably decent BoP) |
We don't need no stinkin' 4 cars to win Le Mans.
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Le Mans
Originally Posted by z28lt1
(Post 1596556686)
Le Mans Entry List Posted.
As has been the case, the boys in yellow will be #63 and #64. Some notes: A large 17 car GTE Pro class: -Risi is not bringing their Ferrari and will not be in GTE Pro. They will be running Ben Keatings GTE Am Ferrari. -Ford again is entering their 4 cars -Porsche is following suit and running 4 cars -AF Corse is running 3 Ferraris -Finally get the BMWs in their new car runing Le Mans with 2 cars -Aston has 2 of their new Turbo V8 Vantages No other Corvettes as Labre has moved to LMP2 with a Ligier. IMSA's IMSA's JDC-Miller team declined their automatic invite. Should be a good one, and with 17 cars, winning will be well deserved (as long as there is some reasonably decent BoP) |
Le Mans Entries (courtesy sportscar 365). Note, Risi is not entering a car. They are just the team behind the Keating entry.
LMP1 (10 Entries) 1 – Rebellion Racing – Rebellion R13 Gibson – Andre Lotterer 3 – Rebellion Racing – Rebellion R13 Gibson – Thomas Laurent 4 – Team ByKolles – ENSO CLM P1/01 NISMO – Oliver Webb 5 – CEFC TRSM Racing – Ginetta G60-LT-P1 Mecachrome – Charlie Robertson 6 – CEFC TRSM Racing – Ginetta G60-LT-P1 Mecachrome – Oliver Rowland 7 – Toyota Gazoo Racing – Toyota TS050 Hybrid – Mike Conway 8 – Toyota Gazoo Racing – Toyota TS050 Hybrid – Sebastien Buemi 10 – DragonSpeed – BR Engineering BR1 Gibson – Henrik Hedman 11 – SMP Racing – BR Engineering BR1 AER – Mikhail Aleshin 17 – SMP Racing – BR Engineering BR1 AER – Vitaly Petrov LMP2 (20 Entries) 22 – United Autosports – Ligier JS P217 – Phil Hanson 23 – Panis Barthez Competition – Ligier JS P217 – Timothe Buret 25 – Algarve Pro Racing – Ligier JS P217 – Mark Patterson 26 – G-Drive Racing – Oreca 07 – Roman Rusinov 28 – TDS Racing – Oreca 07 – Francois Perrodo 29 – Racing Team Nederland – Dallara P217 – Frits van Eerd 31 – DragonSpeed – Oreca 07 – Roberto Gonzalez 32 – United Autosports – Ligier JS P217 – Hugo de Sadeleer 33 – Jackie Chan DC Racing – Ligier JS P217 – David Cheng 34 – Jackie Chan DC Racing – Ligier JS P217 – Jacques Nicolet 35 – SMP Racing – Dallara P217 – Victor Shaitar 36 – Signatech Alpine Matmut – Alpine A470 – Nicolas Lapierre 37 – Jackie Chan DC Racing – Oreca 07 – Jazeman Jafaar 38 – Jackie Chan DC Racing – Oreca 07 – Ho-Pin Tung 39 – Graff-SO24 – Oreca 07 – Vincent Capillaire 40 – G-Drive Racing – Oreca 07 – James Allen 44 – Eurasia Motorsport – Ligier JS P217 – Marko Asmer 47 – Cetilar Villorba Corse – Dallara P217 – Roberto Lacorte 48 – IDEC Sport – Ligier JS P217 – Paul Lafargue 50 – Larbre Competition – Ligier JS P217 – Erwin Creed GTE-Pro (17 Entries) 51 – AF Corse – Ferrari 488 GTE – Alessandro Pier Guidi 52 – AF Corse – Ferrari 488 GTE – Toni Vilander 63 – Corvette Racing – Corvette C7.R – Jan Magnussen 64 – Corvette Racing – Corvette C7.R – Oliver Gavin 66 – Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Team UK – Ford GT – Stefan Muecke 67 – Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Team UK – Ford GT – Andy Priaulx 68 – Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Team USA – Ford GT – Joey Hand 69 – Ford Chip Ganassi Racing Team USA – Ford GT – Ryan Briscoe 71 – AF Corse – Ferrari 488 GTE – Davide Rigon 81 – BMW Team MTEK – BMW M8 GTE – Martin Tomczyk 82 – BMW Team MTEK – BMW M8 GTE – Augusto Farfus 91 – Porsche GT Team – Porsche 911 RSR – Richard Lietz 92 – Porsche GT Team – Porsche 911 RSR – Michael Christensen 93 – Porsche GT Team – Porsche 911 RSR – Patrick Pilet 94 – Porsche GT Team – Porsche 911 RSR – Romain Dumas 95 – Aston Martin Racing – Aston Martin Vantage – Marco Sorensen 97 – Aston Martin Racing – Aston Martin Vantage – Alex Lynn GTE-Am (13 Entries) 54 – Spirit of Race – Ferrari 488 GTE – Thomas Flohr 56 – Project 1 – Porsche 911 RSR – Joerg Bergmeister 61 – Clearwater Racing – Ferrari 488 GTE – Weng Sun Mok 70 – MR Racing – Ferrari 488 GTE – Motoaki Ishikawa 77 – Dempsey Proton Racing – Porsche 911 RSR – Matteo Cairoli 80 – Ebimotors – Porsche 911 RSR – Fabio Babini 84 – JMW Motorsport – Ferrari 488 GTE – Liam Griffin 85 – Keating Motorsports – Ferrari 488 GTE – Ben Keating 86 – Gulf Racing – Porsche 911 RSR – Michael Wainwright 88 – Proton Competition – Porsche 911 RSR – Matt Campbell 90 – TF Sport – Aston Martin Vantage GTE – Salih Yoluc 98 – Aston Martin Racing – Aston Martin Vantage GTE – Paul Dalla Lana 99 – Proton Competition – Porsche 911 RSR – Patrick Long Reserve Cars (9 Cars) 41 – APM Monaco Team KCMG – Dallara P217 – Louis Prette (LMP2) 55 – Spirit of Race – Ferrari 488 GTE – Duncan Cameron (GTE-Am) 49 – High Class Racing – Dallara P217 – Anders Fjordback (LMP2) 24 – Repsol Racing Engineering – Oreca 07 – Norman Nato (LMP2) 62 – Scuderia Corsa – Ferrari 488 GTE – Cooper MacNeil (GTE-Am) 83 – Krohn Racing – Ferrari 488 GTE – Tracy Krohn (GTE-Am) 27 – IDEC Sport – Ligier JS P217 – Patrice Lafargue (LMP2) 43 – ARC Bratislava – Ligier JS P217 – Miroslav Konopka (LMP2) 42 – Brian Alder – Riley Mk. 30 – Mark Kvamme (LMP2) |
Regarding Risi, they only race in the States.
AF Corse handles the European stuff. As far as Mr. Keating and his MB GT3 goes, Mercedes does not allow their cars to race Le Mans. It has to do with historic tragedies involving the brand. |
Originally Posted by sunsalem
(Post 1596568681)
Regarding Risi, they only race in the States.
AF Corse handles the European stuff. As far as Mr. Keating and his MB GT3 goes, Mercedes does not allow their cars to race Le Mans. It has to do with historic tragedies involving the brand. Risi has run Le Mans a whole bunch of times, and won the class as Le Mans 3 times. They ran last year. They are not running this year as they are cutting way back on their GTLM/GTE Pro program. Keating's GT3 Mercedes isn't running at Le Mans, because they don't run GT3 cars at Le Mans. Mercedes simply does not manufacture a car eligible for Le Mans. It is true they left Le Mans due to incidents and returned and left again in the 90s after an incident, but at the moment, they don't have a car eligible. They've stated their big factory efforts in racing are for F1 and now Formula E. They are even pulling out of DTM. And then obviously happy to sell customer GT3 and GT4 cars. In fact, GT3 Mercedeses run in the Le Mans Cup, and have/will run at Le Mans as a supporting race to the 24 hours of Le Mans. They will be on the same track the same week. |
Originally Posted by z28lt1
(Post 1596571660)
Uhhhh....
Risi has run Le Mans a whole bunch of times, and won the class as Le Mans 3 times. They ran last year. They are not running this year as they are cutting way back on their GTLM/GTE Pro program Keating's GT3 Mercedes isn't running at Le Mans, because they don't run GT3 cars at Le Mans. Mercedes simply does not manufacture a car eligible for Le Mans. |
Sebring test is next week (optional unlike the Rolex Roar). Interestingly enough according to the entry list, Corvette is only bringing the #4 car and drivers and not bringing the #3. Not a big deal as other teams have taken similar approaches in the past, it's just unusual as Corvette generally runs as much as they can wherever they can....
35 total test entries, 8 in GTLM (including the #4). |
Sebring Test BoP is out.
In GTLM, Boost changes to BMW, and fuel changes for BMW (more), Porsche (more) and Ford (less). No other GTLM power/weight changes. Again, going to high downforce configurations and slower tracks will likely even things up from Daytona. In GTD, seems like IMSA is really struggling to get to the MB-AMG correct. This round they get a smaller restrictor, and increased minimum ride height, but get (a whopping) 5kg weight reduction. Interesting changes. |
Originally Posted by z28lt1
(Post 1596596288)
Sebring Test BoP is out.
In GTLM, Boost changes to BMW, and fuel changes for BMW (more), Porsche (more) and Ford (less). No other GTLM power/weight changes. Again, going to high downforce configurations and slower tracks will likely even things up from Daytona. In GTD, seems like IMSA is really struggling to get to the MB-AMG correct. This round they get a smaller restrictor, and increased minimum ride height, but get (a whopping) 5kg weight reduction. Interesting changes. I would love to know exactly how they come up with these adjustments...must be computer analysis of some kind. |
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