C7 Production
 

Steve Grilli , the Corvette assembly plant quality engineer, said last night at the East Tennessee Corvette Club meeting that the C7 will be a short run production. GM is focusing now on the C8!!

This coincides with the rumor that the C7 will be a warmed over C6.

Tom

Well - Corvette's Chief Engineer Tadge Juechter says differently....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVycCzxPsuM

That's an old video. A lot has changed with GM since May 1st!

At any rate I hope Grilli is wrong. I'm just reporting what he said the status of the C7 was as of last week.

My feeling is that the C8 was supposed to be the C7 but lack of money and time required GM to warm over the current Vette and call it a C7 then continue work on a new platform and call it the C8.

Tom

I hope that's wrong, because no Corvette generation should be a warmed over version of the previous generation. (just imo...) Even the classic C3 was extended several years until they could come out with the completely different body style of the C4. An entire model year was skipped! Taking a similar approach would be better than having the C7 be a warmed over C6, which does nothing more than lessen both the legacy of the C6 and integrity of the C7. :nono: (again, just my opinion!) :flag:

Eh. No matter if the rumor is true tons will call this a c6.5 or c6 or whatever. C6 isn't just a modified c5 and c7 I can't see being just a modified c6. The c5 z was a modified c5, not an ls3 vette.

That's correct, GM said that. The bankruptcy changed everything.

It's not going to be warmed over. There will be many changes including a new engine. It just won't be a completely new car. Nothing wrong with that. Corvette has always been about steady improvement.

Also C4 was a completely new car with huge improvement to handling. Read Dave McLellan's book.

No new engine anytime soon at GM
 

Sorry to burst your bubble but their is no new engine coming anytime soon. We are not testing any new tooling at GM the Gen 5 is just a very slightly modded Gen 3 just like the Gen 4 was GM is putting it's eggs in the small electric & hybird market don't expect a major change in the Corvette anytime soon & forget a mid engine vette expect lighter materials better engine management & computer aided handling as well as accident avoidance the Corvette is not a big profit auto remember GMs business plan is to rebuild its self as a profitable world leader in the auto industry not a nitch sports car builder We now have the most POWERFUL production power plants the most dependable & most fuel savay autos in the world. LONG LIVE THE LEGACY

IMHO the last real generation Corvette was the C5. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that the C6 is a warmed over C5 at all, its an improved Corvette in many areas however it is not a generational leap as the C4 was over the C3 or the C5 over the C4. With those cars they were really all new cars over the previous generations. It seems that the C6 was more of an improved car rather than a truly new generation. I hope that with the C7 we see a really all new Corvette, possibly taking styling from the past (Split rear window) and incorporating it with modern design. The problem lies with the financial condition of GM and how much money they are willing to spend or have already spent on R&D for the C7. Whatever they do I'm sure that it will still be a beautiful car that will run with the best out there but after 15 years with the current platform I think that GM must come out with something all new for the Corvette sales figures to rebound. If people arent exited there not going to line up for it. Just my .02

Wow! That's exciting! Small electric and hybrid! You mean like the Volt, a $16k car with a $25k battery? This sounds like Obama's crap and it will ruin your company. There's more to Corvette than profit, it gets peoples attention. Look at how well Ford's doing and they are putting a new engine in Mustang.

I can do without your smartass comments about bursting my bubble. I don't have a bubble but I may buy a Porsche instead of a C7.

No, the problem is they got a bailout. Do people that get bailouts learn their lesson and change their ways?

Sorry to burst your bubble !!!!
 

Sorry to burst your bubble but their is no new engine coming anytime soon. We are not testing any new tooling at GM the Gen 5 is just a very slightly modded Gen 3 just like the Gen 4 was GM is putting it's eggs in the small electric & hybird market don't expect a major change in the Corvette anytime soon & forget a mid engine vette expect lighter materials better engine management & computer aided handling as well as accident avoidance the Corvette is not a big profit auto remember GMs business plan is to rebuild its self as a profitable world leader in the auto industry not a nitch sports car builder We now have the most POWERFUL production power plants the most dependable & most fuel savay autos in the world. LONG LIVE THE LEGACY

No, unfortunatly they usually don't.....:banghead:

Well I hope the legacy lives because because that's all your going to have left Mr Marvolus. Read my response above in #10.

It so happens that you are a bit off base. I was given a ZR1 to drive by GM for 2 weeks as part of a marketing campaign here in So Cal. (see my post in the C6 General forum). Yesterday I got a call from GM marketing in Detroit to get my impressions of the ZR1. We spoke for 20 minutes and i was able to find out that the C7 will be out sometime in 2012 as a 2013 model if all goes as scheduled. The interior/seats problems that many bitch about will be addressed. And, the C7 will have a front mounted V8 with direct injection. The fact that it a direct injection engine equates to a new engine.

I know that 2012 as a MY 2013 is not set in stone, but that is some great news.

1. Marvelous you can't spell and I'm convinced your just a virus on this forum.
2. The c6 isn't a modified c5. Compare the 6 speed ls1 combo to the specs of the 6 speed ls2. And that is only part of it.
3. Goatts you talk about Obama like he's the Hitler of corvettedom. Please god shut up you know so very little of what your actually talkin about.
4. The c7 won't be just a c6.5 come on folks. the engine alone should tell you that. regardless, the 911 hasn't received huge overhauls every 5 years and its doin good don't ya think?

I think you're right, Mr Marvelous is a fake. If you don't like my comments about Obama then I will absolutely stop making them this instant. Porsche is constantly improving the 911, every year.

Oh, by the way, Obama is arrogant and incompetant. Oops! I didn't say that!

This really makes no sense to me at all. Why would GM, a company needing to trim fat and increase profitability, waste time and money on a "short run" production? They will still have to retool the plant, produce or buy the parts, train the workers and techs, spend money on marketing, etc... All this for what? A model that is a fill in until the "real" next generation comes out? Who would buy it? Sure there will be a few that might for it's potential collectability. However, for the most part I would think most would just hold on to their money for that "real" next generation. Surely the MBA's at the top of GM can see this.

As I said
 

I don't care what you buy I just give you the facts I run the preproduction tooling on all blocks we run the unapproved AKA ( preproduction tooling ) usually 3 to 5 years before it is put into products I have run all of the GEN tooling all GEN blocks weather they are 4.8, 5.3, 6.0, 6.2 GEN 3 or 4 are the same block weather they are iron or aluminum the only diffrence is the barrel core assembly for the bore thickness the only diffrence between the GEN 3 & a GEN 4 is the way the oil is run through the block the GEN 5 yes will be a direct injected engine but that will not change the block it will still be the same block as the prior castings GEN 3 & 4 All Blocks & heads are preproduction cast in iron becouse it is more forgiving to work with I don't mean to come off wrong but this is what is going on becouse of the money problems within GM & the Governments standards placed on the Auto Companys I'm not saying GM has given up the Corvette it's just not the number one thing on the drawing board at this time be happy that GM didn't go under The Corvette will have its day again just not today remember good things come to those who wait The C3 ran 15 yrs. The C4 ran 12 yrs in good times it may take a min. To best the C6 it is a great auto THE ZR-1 is amazing the camaros are tail grabin' the vettes behind & the Caddys not to shabby either think Whatever you want I'm just a car guy that happens to work in the field I love all autos I have several a 67 Firebird with a 2008 6.0 GEN 4 about 600 hp 51000 miles , a 67 Bonneville 2 dr hardtop 335 hp all factory, a 80 Z28 all factory 52000 miles, a 66 Impala wagon 396 built about 420 hp, a 84 Corvette my summer time daily driver & project in progress BUT MY FAVORITE or as my woman says MY BABY then I have my winter rides my 97 Cadillac Deville DeElegance & my 420 SEL Mercedes or my 2 pickups a parts hauler & 1 to tow with as I also race 3 go karts that each will run over 100 mph NOW GO TAKE UER MEDS ................ !!!!!!!! Have a great day

Typical union worker with a bad attitude. You must be one of the guys I saw on the news drinking and smoking pot during lunch break at GM.

Wow and I thought the BMW 3 series group was immature!

Wow, so why don't you go back to the Bimmer forum?

Obliviously, the C7 might be my next car, and I was hoping to learn something here.

And you will. There are alot of really good people on this forum in all generation catagories. The C7 is a huge hot spot right now because just about everything here is opinion, rumor, speculation, fantasy, and fear. As GM has not come forward with anything "official" about the next Generation Vette. Don't let the p***ing contest of a couple turn you away.

The one thing to keep in mind when speculating about the C7 is to realize that while the C1 to C2, C2 to C3, and C3 to C4 were revolutionary steps, the Corvette has since been more a product of evolution. I suspect a continuation of this theme as it has worked well for a couple of decades now.

Sorry for your narrow mind
 

No DRUGS!!! No Drinks !!! here pal I work hard so my family can play hard I don't wast my life or my $120000.00 per year. I take care of my KIDS my home & our TOYS I'm a single DAD that has to much going on to spend my time partying so try again & remember it was unions that have built the middle class if you don't like union workers move to CHINA & drive your KIA !!!!!

Aren't Kias from South Korea?
Marvolus (Marvelous?) heres a tip for ya bud. You seem to have missed out on a quality education so what I'd suggest is take your supposed $120k a year and make sure your kids get an excellent education and learn about the world and everything else many Americans know little about.
This may be the internet and you and your huge biceps and giant penis can hide behind the computer screen and pretend you're something but please just think about what you say and how you say it because the above really does make you look quite low brow my friend. Don't take what I've said as a harsh criticism but as something constructive, now lets get back to the C7 shall we?

Yes, please lets get back to the C7.

To BMWDAD: this is the first time I have ever seen this type of behavior on this board. Please join us for a while, look around the other sections. There are a lot of good mature people here willing to answer any of your questions you may have. - Andy

I hope you do make the choice to buy a New Corvette don't over look the present ZR 1 as it is a great auto built with pride by a very good hard working Men & Women at the Bowling Green Plant Please don't let someones irresponible comments about union workers sway your decision to own the only American built sports car what ever Corvette you choose THEY ARE A GREAT AUTO built with tons of pride here in the USA keep America Strong Buy American !!!!!

Hmmm....wonder what you've got to say about the Australian designed and engineered, Canadian built 'all American' Camaro?

BMWDAD as said, Goatts isnt the only tool, but quite possibly the biggest one on this forum having gotten about 4 threads locked cause he wants to talk about Obama and nothing else. The rest of us will help you out if we can. Marvolus there are some people in power on this forum, so they do see it every once in awhile. So the fact your "revealing" info, not buying it. PS the viper is an american built sports car...

Thank you for welcoming me to the forum.
I few negative comments will not discourage me from learning about the upcoming C7.

When I bought my 2008 BMW 335i coupe 6mt, my friend bought a 2008 vette convertible 6mt. We switch cars, and discuss the pros and cons of each. So I have a little back round with the vette.

I am excited that in retirement I can afford a C7, and hope it continues to evolve into a world class supercar.

BTW I saw a 2010 or 2011 grand sport today, dark gray, (?), must of had some new exhaust because it sounded way different than my friends car. What a beautiful car.

No it wasn't obvious. Lots of sarcasm here on the forum and it may get a little immature at times. BUT you can learn a lot and there are plenty of knowledgeable people willing to help.

Very little is known about the C7 at this point. Good luck.

He did say obliviously not obviously, bit of a difference....

Nice. What do you do for $120k, push a button and watch the robot hang the door?

At one time unions served a purpose. Now they just ruin companies.

Well, it wasn't obvious that he was oblivious.

Classy response haha :thumbs:

I enjoy your off base political comments personally. I long for the days before Obama (not quite 3 years ago) when GM flourished under W and there was no such thing as bailout under W. I'm with you brother. Obama hates Corvettes.

:crazy:

I'm pretty sure the economy tanked under W and continued under Obama. I wouldn't blame the lower sales figures of the C6 on one guy. Economic crises are much, much larger than any one person.

Hell, I'm not sure there would still be a Corvette without GM being able to restructure itself but carry on.

A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and who won't change the subject.
--Winston Churchill


Isn't it funny how all the fanatics are part of the same political party? Isn't also unfortunate that a large group of them like to ruin our forum with off topic BS?

I think my point was hidden by my sarcasm. :)

"Marvolus", thanks for the info. I think coming from the "preproduction tooling dept" carries a lot of weight. Who else to know what engines are in the works. Good info ;).

This has certainly been an interesting thread. Here we get a guy who works for GM and is actually willing to give us a little information. Yet he is put down or bashed by Forum members who: don't like the way he phrased the information / don't want to hear it / question his level of education / call him a low brow / don't like union workers / accuse him of being drunk or stoned / call him a fake / don't like the bailout that W initiated which saved GM / don't like the current president. Tough crowd.
Any time we get a GM guy to contribute to the forum is a plus, regardless of his writing style. I hope we haven't driven him away. Sure, some periods between sentences would make for easier reading, but no big deal.
The best one was the guy calling Obama "incompetant", showing that he himself was incompetent when it comes to spelling "incompetent"...
Don't let this thread scare ya away BMWDAD, they're not all this way.

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:iagree:

Dear God. This has to be one of the longest run-on sentences I've ever read! I hope you either (a) don't punctuate when you rant, or (b) doing a much better job with preproduction tooling than grammar.

Or, maybe..........
 

..................it's done on purpose to disguise his writing style so he won't be "recognized"/busted for disclosing info on this forum?
:bigears

except he then lists what vehicles he owns. Seems to me, an employer can find out rather quickly who the "leak" is.

I am not saying he is a fake, but rather if he wants to remain anonymous, listing his cars may not have been a good idea.

Only if that's not fake too!
 

My guess is he'd be smart enough to cover his tracks altogether......

;)

I hope not..... Because Corvette is the land mark for all American sports cars.....

The shortest generation Corvette was the midyear 63-67 and it was anything but a warmed over C1. New body, interior and suspension. I bet we get 2 out of the 3 on the C7.:yesnod:

Vanishing Point
 

You guys need a C7 forum that is devoid of politics. Give the political types there own spot to pummel each other into the ground without disturbing the meager flow of C7 info.
Mention the red or the blue party and you simply vanish! No need to lock interesting threads.

NEXT GENERATION Corvette
 

A generation should be a major move forward, The C-5 moved the trans to the rear (like the old porsche 928). A new genaration needs a major development to be significant. The C6 has the same layout as the C5 so it isn't a major change. Yeah- they put a bigger motor in the same frame, but that isn't a new layout. All of the other performance cars migrated to mid-ship engines, but Corvette still has a 1980's Porsche layout.