Roof recall = totalled vette
 

UPDATE!!!!

I have come to an agreement with Koenen regarding replacement of my beloved corvette. I will be driving another fine example of americas greatest sportscar in the near Future








Dealer Hein Koenen in Echt the Netherlands is responsible for this. The car was there for the roof recall and this is what they returned. Can you see the freshly painted new roof? The Owner of the Dealership wrecked the car, he says he was doing 30mph but I suspect it was more than double that. He hit 2 trees, a ditch and a lorry. The biggest problem is, the insurance will refund the blue book value. These cars cost in excess of 100.000 Euros new, this car was bought new from Koenen. It was a Z51 full options 6 speed car. They didn't do a thing to make it right. Instead they are trying to even make money off a new one. The new ones go for about 120.000 euros and it was offered for 100.000. The real deal is that the car in question is sitting in a German lot and it's already on sale there for that exact same amount (+ our insane tax) so instead of trying to work this out in a satisfying way he's trying to make money on selling me a new vette to replace the one he totalled. That's 50.000 euros (over 80.000$) out of my pocket because he had to take a drive in my car. Look at the speedo stuck @ 65mph (it's in km) and the overall damage to the car. Koenen in Echt is responsible for this

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Sorry to see this, I am sure you have a legal system there where you can sue them for the difference in your loss.
I think i would pursue all avenues available to me so they don't walk off scot free.
Good luck, and yeah, scumbag dealers aren't only in the USA

I guess the question you have to ask is: why was he driving it at all? I hate that this happened to you. Good luck getting them to make it right.

Nope, the insurance settles it and that's that. I'm left w/ a 50K dent and no corvette, they are playing as if nothing has happened. Somehow they even arranged to get their name held out of the papers and online articles, even the official police statement doesn't list the car, the dealer or the drivers name (dealership owner). They quickly pulled the car off the street and dumped it in one of their warehouses. Koenen in Echt won't do anything to make it right. He just wants to make more money after wrecking the car.

Man that stinks. That leaves them with absolutely no accountability for what they did. They would be all over you or me if we had taken one of their cars on a test drive and wrecked it.

wow...that's terrible!

Did you ask him why he was driving it?

it certainly looks that the car was moving faster than 30 mph

Wow, if that was in the States you would have more options. So what is insurance paying you for the car?

I am so sorry to hear about your misfortune. That is completely inexcusable.

If the wreck didnt kill him, I think I would! I cant believe you cant sue them. Their insurance should replace the car for you with a similarly equuiped vette of the same year if not newer. I am absolutely astonished that they are hanging you out to dry like that.

Dont give up. Here in the states, bad PR can put a dealer out of business.
Make as much noise as you can. I would persue every TV news station and news paper to let the public know of your situation.

Get a junker car and park it in front of their dealership with a big sign on it that says: "Koenen Crashed My Vette And Wont Replace It!" Buy a domain name called "Koenenwreckedmycar.de" and put your story out there. Make sure the search engines pick you up. Then let them know about the sites once you have it up and perhaps the bad PR will be enough to get them to do something. Like I said, just dont give up! Be all over them like flies on $hit. I would even picket them if you have to! Stand out in front of the dealership and hand out fliers of your story to every potential customer. They are way to shady to get away with that!

Heck, I would even send them a letter on your behalf letting them know that I am in the internet business and I will make it my lifes work to insure that every customer who does an internet search on their establishment will know the story about them wrecking a customers car and then hanging him out to dry. Seriously! This kind of crap really pisses me off! F'n low life dealer!

Are these guys authorized Chevy dealers? If so, you can also file a complaint with GM. Not sure if it will do any good but the more noise you make and the more you disrupt the business, the more they will want to put it behind them.

:iagree:

More like 130mph. If you can't do anything legally then you should pick one or more of the expensive cars at his dealer and bash the sh** out of them. That way your even. That made me furious and it's not even my car.:mad:

I'm shocked that you have no other recourse other than insurance. Surely there must be a court of law in your country for damages. The "owner" of the dealership was not authorized to drive your car, only fix it. This is just wrong. Ask an attorney.

What about the police records of the crash? Find the report and any other incriminating evidence.
This is not a simple oops and this idiot owes you a new car, period. If anything, he should be providing a loaner to you right now for your trouble!!

Damn, you can't lawyer up? What a shame here in the US I bet you would get a new car plus punative damages.

I can't believe that your system of law does not allow for you to seek justice from this guy. Why would he even be driving it to begin with? If you took the Vette in for roof recall.....why would he need to drive it? Who was riding in the car with him? If the passenger airbag deployed that means someone was in the passenger seat when the wreck occured. There is a sensor in the seat and unless there is a passenger that (passenger bag) will NOT deploy.

I am afraid making a complaint with GM will do little. Dealers are independent from GM in that things like this are NOT shared liability. The one liable here is the man who decided he would take your Vette for a 'joy' ride and unfortunatley had a bad out come. I would ask who was riding in the car with the driver. Then question that person. Did they end up in the hospital?

It is difficult for me to comprehend that your system of law will not allow you to seek satisfaction? There must be some kind of avenue you could persue? I remember when I was in the service stationed in Greece, they had some really warped laws there. If we had a American car there, and it was wrecked we (American) would have to PAY the Greeks to take the car.....no joke. What will happen with the wrecked Vette? I would speak to a attorney to explore any avenue of satisfaction. Is there no way you could sue him for bad mangement practices perhaps? There must be something....

Another thought is maybe come over to US and buy a replacement car and ship it back over....the dollar is very weak against European (Euro) currancy so YOUR Euro will buy you much more here in in the US.....you could replace it here.....however what are stipulations to bring a American car into Netherlands? I know I like to vacation there but however because dollar is weak against your currancy....that vacation trip now costs me 50% MORE....just a thought....

European laws are stupid. Talk to a lawyer. You didn't authorize hI'm to drive your car. Start making noise with the press. He is making money parting out your car. Don't believe what his insurance or he is telling you.

:iagree: maybe you can use the info in the "Black Box" we all have one that details what the car was doing the last few seconds before the crash

Clif

Clif

Maybe take a new one out for a test drive and run it off a cliff!!! After you get out that is, "darn it must have slipped out of gear"!!!

Holy Mackerel!!!!!! That is just terrible, not only for you but for the reputation of that dealership. :ack::ack::ack::smash::smash::smash:

As said, I hope you have a good legal system but I think I know better....

And don't think your tax system is bad----we'll be catching up to you shortly. :ack: Unfortunately....

Man you need to move.:willy: That is not happening in the USA!

Should be no problem! Judge see's that happened while they had it!
There toast!

It appears there was a passenger at time of impact as well.

do you think that some court/insurance is going to make him whole in this country? I'm not sure what year C6 that is, but I'd guess an '07 or earlier. What's a totaled Vette owner get vs. the price of a new one, regardless of who is at fault? just asking...

Supposedly he had the car @ his home where his paint shop is adjacent to (so he says, I have no idea whether this is true or not), the rood was painted an he was bringing it back. It's all fishy though as it happened around 6:30 in the morning and I never saw the "old" roof, in fact the roof on the car may very well be the original that it came with. I was too heartbroken to take a detailed look. This car was my passion, it had 50.000km (about 30K miles) on it and it was immaculate, I bought it new (from them), there was not a scratch on it.

What surprises me is the pass. side airbag has deployed, I didn't think it would with no one in the pass seat. He said he was driving it alone. Must have been driving it like he stole it.

I never even heard from Hein Koenen (the guy who wrecked it), he broke his hand and a leg. I even sent him flowers & a get well card to his hospital bed. I thought he'd be a stand up guy and make good upon it, it all being his fault. Turns out he's a weasel trying to make more money off me selling me a car to replace the one he totalled.

Less than half of what it cost new. :(

This happened to my brother in law when he left his Viper to get new tires. They totaled it.

Better yet, after Kroymans went belly up, they took over. They are one of the 3? official importers of Cadillac, Corvette (& formerly Hummer). Some guy to represent a brand in the Netherlands eh?

Exactly what i was thinking, why would the bag have deployed otherwise.

The worst part of this all, the damages are paid by MY insurance, probably even his hospital bill (occupants insurance) and my insurance will try to recoup it from their dealership insurance. it may even cost me a bunch of deductible.

I brought the car in for a roof swap, i don't see the need for a test drive either

holy crap!!! i really hope you get whats owed to you....and i hope that guy gets what is owed to him!!!

email jalopnik, autoblog, car and driver, motortrend. call allofyour local news and radio stations.

I forgot the pic showing the speedo and other stuff.

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Man that sucks big time. I would make his life miserable until he makes things right.

VAT (up to 50% if I am not mistaken) is a large part of the cost over and above the actual vehicle price.

Good point on the exchange rate though. The Euro is pretty strong against the dollar but not as strong as it was a year ago. I was just in Amsterdam last month and it was at about 1.35%. Last year same time was about 1.5%. Still that allows some extra margin towards the cost of the car, shipping and VAT.

I may be mistaken but it looks like there are blood stains on the passenger airbag.

Yes Vat and guzzler tax also, +19% sales tax. Price runs up toa bour 115.000 euros, currently about $160.000

I'll go after the black box, I was wondering about that myself since a guy w/ a dodge truck here got caught with it, claiming he did 50 (he killed a couple of bicyclists) and turned out to be doing well over a 100 according to the black box.

This is their website just so google picks up on it.
http://www.koenenbv.nl/

Yes, he claims they are his, but between the 30mph claim, it happening @ 6:30 in the morning and all the other vagueness I think they are lying through their teeth. Them removing the car from the scene and having all the names & details deleted from the media around this is more proof that it's a cover up

You should be able to determine what the car/driver was doing prior to the crash by having the on board data recorder analyzed. I would assume GM captures this data on Euro cars just like USA cars.

Sending flowers, card, his insurance not picking up the tab, etc. Have you even talked to a lawyer yet? I know GM Europe is useless. It sounds like you are playing on their court.

i'm sure you all know: the legal system in other countries is not geared toward nor even necessarily friendly toward the average person. altho I don't think our OP is an average person, he is probably not a multi-millionaire with tremendous clout and inherited or company title (title is big in many countries, and not just inherited title. "country manager" is huge in many countries around the world). I could go on, but except for the fact that the insurance company may want to collect the full amount, the OP has probably only the "court of public opinion."

Yes it takes a lot of force to do that much damage.

Where there is a will there is a way.

He should be arrested for theft. He's not a machanic and has no reason/excuse to drive the car. The porters have more reason to drive it than he does. Just because he wons the dealership gives him no right to just take a customers car.

Why can't legal action be taken?

since the pass air bag deployed and there is blood on it, i'd think there was a passenger. i agree with the prior poster, go test drive a new one, maybe a zr1. you never know when a mishap could happen!

Man this is terrible. Sorry for your loss. What comes around goes around...he'll get his in the end.

As for the passenger airbag deploying, I know that my passenger sensor is broken and the airbag will deploy even if no one is sitting in the seat. Maybe yours was stuck on?

This is incredible. The Corvette Nation needs to rise and make sure everyone knows what scum this dealer is.

if you have exhausted all legal options -- you should give serious thought to breaking his other arm and leg.

wow.. that is just horrible. I can't believe they're boning you like that.. Other than getting the black box (if they didn't take it) do you have any other recourse? Sue then or what ever.. ??

Damn shame..

He probably was under the influence of something and he knows the right people and paid them off. Money goes a long way in today's economy. He shouldn't even been near your car, not at 6:30 in the morning. How many extra miles does the car have on it?

Yes we have some screwy laws in this country but this is really over the top!! So YOUR insurance pays?? That is adding insult to injury in this entire mess :smash::smash::smash: There almost had to be passenger and they are lying about! My guess they we COMING home at 6:30 am not going out... not that it seems to matter! Why the police and press are willing to cover up is really amazing... Now that WOULD not happen here because once the press are involved it goes public! People don't think we have freedom here.... well just look at this one..... :eek::eek::eek:

vray,

In total agreement. What can WE do?

I say try to figure out who checked into the hospital with him. There is your passenger and your info leak hopefully.

I would seriously look into hiring a lawyer or maybe even a private investigator to get to the bottom of this and give you some ammunition.

Whole situation sounds fishy and there was definitely someone in the passenger seat. Did both seat belt pre-tensioners deploy? They should pull down several inches during an accident to help keep the occupant in the seat. And I doubt the passenger side would activate unless that seat belt was buckled. Just a thought.



On the flip side of this......while it is really ****ty that this happened to your car and I feel for you, blue book value is what you get when you total a used car. I know I wouldn't get sticker price if I totaled my 2008 with only 13k miles on it.

Have you thought about finding a low-mileage used C6 of a similar year? I'm not sure about Europe, but there are plenty here to choose from. It is easy to find clean, well taken care of examples if you want to buy used. I think that would be your best option if you only get what they are currently offering you.

Andy

I'm sorry for your loss. No way that guy was going 30 mph when he crashed. Can't the officials pull the Event Data Recorder ('black box') to determine how fast he was really going? The whole story sounds like a nightmare.

You have no legal recourse to recover the deficiency?? That's a messed-up system....where's the justice? The guy literally stole your car..totaled it and now you're paying for it big time. You'd think there would be something you could do legally. If not, why don't you take one of the dealer's cars for a 30 mph "test drive." Good luck...I hope it works out for you.

Dont get mad. Find a way to get even. Publicizing this azz whole & trashing his reputation might be one way to go. Take your time, think about it, then act.

That's my point, made above. Even here in the US, assuming the dealer was completely at fault, you would still have to go after him in court for recovery or remedial damages beyond what insurance would pay. Insurance is not going to pay as if it was a new car. Insurance will pay, if they pay at all, on the value of the car at the time, and this is not a brand new, just-off-the-showroom-floor, car, from what I see in the pics. The difficulty comes if there is a de facto "no fault" system of insurance which holds that you can't go after the other party for damages.

As to whose insurance company pays, what do we think "no fault" insurance means here? It's as if "risk" is pooled to an extent. In which case, a claim is paid relatively quickly in order to shorten the time to analyze who was at fault. The "blame" is assessed eventually, usually not against the owner's policy but against the actual driver of the vehicle. That's typically whose insurance premium will go up.

But this being another country with their own laws and insurance regulations, who knows whose insurance rates will go up? I surely don't.

It's still a really lousy situation and for the dealership not to step up and try to make the car owner whole in some way is terrible.

To the OP:
Very sorry to hear about this and your apparent lack of legal remedies available to you.

To the rest of us:
This is what is going to happen here when "frivilous" lawsuits (whose definition are we going to get shoved down our throats) against corporations are done away with. The distinction between this and other lawsuits will be lost in the wash.

I sure am glad I only left the top with the dealer. Even that came back with a large scratch the first time.

That is NOT no 30mph crash thats for sure....best of luck.

:iagree: Absolutely uncalled for what has happened to you and your Vette....Hope things work out for you!

vettedoogie,

They already are in a way. The large corporations can stall and frustrate you till your penniless to go any further.

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I would do everything in my power to stick this up their azz.

that is terrible,,,,,,:smash::smash::smash:
hope they come through and do the right thing for you,,,,

holly cow thats totaled and the dealer should make it right.:iagree:

too bad his corpse wasn't mangled up in that mess...

Post this on youtube and do a song how this dealer screwed you
They broke my Taylor Guitar.

I think I would test drive the biggest truck on his lot and drive it into his office while he is in it! Claim your foot slipped off the brake ,Sorry dude!:D

I would not leave my car on the recall. They got the paint codes and I left. When they called that it was done, I set up an appointment time that it would be installed. I drove it and parked by the shop door. They took the old roof and went into the shop, installed the hardware from the old roof and came out and put it on. No one but no one drives any of my cars. If I ruin one I will replace it. If someone else does, I probably would kill them.

HOLY FRICKIN COW !!!!! thats gotta go on the record books as one of the nastiest lookin C6 crashes. The right frame rail is pointing back over the right door,, oh man !

Consider suing GM of Europe
 

Not that you will succeed, but, GM would be really unhappy with the dealership for getting them bad publicity and being dragged into court.
At this point, I don't see what you have to lose.

I just went to the link and sent them a email asking them if they were responsible for a wrecked corvette, wonder what they will do if they get several hundred emails in a day, :thumbs:

Hey look what I got back in a matter of minutes seems like they are interested in what people say.



Were did you get this information?

Met vriendelijke groet,

Andy Koenen
Koenen's Autobedrijf BV
Officieel dealer van:
Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep-Cadillac-Corvette-Hummer-SsangYong
www.koenenbv.nl
Doorkiesnummer 0475 - 387692




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Verzonden: maandag 11 oktober 2010 16:27
Aan: koenen@koenenbv.nl
Onderwerp: Wrecked Corvette


Hey I believe you are responsible for a wrecked corvette.



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Then Mr Koenen is in for a surprise:

The story has been picked up by one of the largest blogs in the Netherlands.

http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven...opt_uw_au.html

Google translate:

http://translate.googleusercontent.c...UD4uIhAOc9_nWg

Wow....I just finally saw the pictures. Obviously this guy was joyriding the car. I hope you make it out on top with this situation with all the bad press this guy is going to get.

Have you contacted GM about this? If not, I would. I'm sure the last thing they want is bad publicity of their dealerships in other countries besides U.S.

Based on okie08's experience above I also sent an email and copied the Director at the Corvette Museum.

Cheers!

Damn, that hurts Twinny, to bad about the Vette.:banghead:

I hope the exposure will help you solve this, I noticed it on GS myself just now, don't visit here often enough anymore.:o

Looking a bit better at the pics, this is not the damage you get when you hit something doing 30 Mph, double speed at least, but triple sounds even more likely to me.
As a wrecker operator, I see high speed wrecks all the time, and this is one.

I sent them an email also about 30 minutes ago.
No response as of now. I suspect they are going to find out
that people know about this.

The Dutch weblog www.geenstijl.nl picked up your story so expect the dealership to make you a sweet offer any day now.
If anyone replies to this thread claiming to be wim heitinga he's an imposter!

Apparently the dealer owner doesn't know the power of the web.

I just clicked on the dealer's link above and it doesn't work. My guess is that they are in crisis control at that dealership now.

:iagree:
:mad:

In case anyone is interested here is the dealers email.

koenen@koenenbv.nl

:lurk:

The laws in the Netherlands can't be much different from the Danish laws, I would contact a lawyer asap, I'm sure they can be held responsible. Another thing for them to consider is the bad press they will be getting for months. I saw this on twitter !

The dealer should be insured for this, but this would certainly qualify as a tort, an "onrechtmatige daad" anyway:

(A tort is a generic legal fact from the Dutch civil law. It is an act or omission whereby someone illegally or improperly causes another disadvantage or harm. The tort results on a double commitment: first, the creditor's right to compensation, on the other the obligation of the debtor to meet it. The legal relationship between debtor and creditor in this case defined as civil liability. google translate)

Go and see a lawyer, he will know a way to make them pay for damages, that is, if they don't call you first, they must be in shock right now because of al the negative attention, I'm sure the damage for them in PR is far greater than €50.000 already, hahaha, the idiots!!!

Good luck!

BMW driver visiting this forum as a support.
 

Picked up the story up here in Canada. There is a case at the BMW forum that's about the same as yours.

I linked this story to this forum, and you will for sure get some replies from that. Getting the story out and put pressure on GM and the dealership is, besides getting a lawyer, a good thing to do.

The power of the internet at work for you. I would suggest all forum members to send a mail to this "stealer" and make clear this will hurt his business way beyond the additional 50 k he owes this corvette owner.

link: http://www.xoutpost.com/off-topic/lo...wrecks-m5.html

30 mph, my ass! The fact that the speedo now reads 65mph is a clue that 65 was what he was doing when the car first hit whatever tore off the front end and terminated electrical power to the gauges.

You can tell by the grass stuck in the left front tire that it skidded on grass for a while after that tire lost its air pressure from the initial collision. That dealer was one lucky SOB in that he wasn't killed. Now, he needs to correct his mistake, not you.

Check your insurance coverage. In the U.S., we usually have replacement value coverage. If all you paid for is a stated value policy, you may be out of luck with the insurance company. Dependent upon that country's liability laws, the dealer may be liable for the difference, whether he wants to do so, or not. -Clark

looks like their website and email are down. find us a legit email add, or website for the dealer where there is a "contact us" tab. I'd like to see what they say.......:D

The driver should be in jail for that, you don't do that kind of damage at 30 mph - also what is the damage to whatever he hit? Wonder if his passenger was injured also based on the blood on the airbag. Also wonder how much weed he had smoking or alcohol he'd been drinking before doing that?

Does the local news media there have segments where their "intrepid reporters" help people with issues with companies or the city? I'd check into that, and I would also post your story on any other automotive boards for GM models. Is there a Better Business Bureau equivalent there? Is there any rating system from google or yahoo for the dealer you can post your story to? If you have the funds, taking out a full page ad in the local newspaper would get the story out there as well. Perhaps you could make a facebook page or a youtube video of the car with the story. Use every avenue.

I always check my odometer before and after I take the car in for any service - one time I had a radio issue and when I got the car back, there were 30 new miles on the odometer.

AORoads,

This is the email address I used earlier today. Did not bounce.

'koenen@koenenbv.nl'

:iagree:

I am delighted to inform you that I have reached an agreement with Koenen regarding the matter.

This afternoon I had a good long conversation with mr. Andy Koenen of Dealership Koenen in which I told him I was not going to agree with their offer which basically had me pay for the balance of a new corvette minus the insurance payment. I told him I didn't and never did expect them to just give me a brand new car without me paying an x amount but that they had to give me a pretty good deal as this was completely their fault. Add to that the fact that I wasn't in the market for a new corvette at this time anyway taking into consideration the mileage was pretty low and I could have enjoyed this one for years to come.

Finally mr. Koenen and I came to an agreement which we both can live with. I am pleased it worked out in the end and I hope I and Koenen can leave this unpleasant situation behind us. Koenen stressed it was never their intent to wrong me in the matter and that this was a first for them also and that's why their response was less than satisfactory and they regret that I was under the impression Koenen left me out to dry.

Koenen has proven to be a stand up dealership in the end

I can't thank the members of corvetteforum and several other internet forums enough for their help in the matter, your advice and support were both helpful and heart warming

I just emailed them and it did'nt bounded.:thumbs:

People, the matter has been resolved, please stop sending more emails, it will just do harm from now on

sorry:( it was a freindly one. I guess that you were posting your out come at the same time
I was posting so I did'nt see it.

No biggie, thanks for taking the time to help me out, it sure helped a lot.

So what was the final deal?

Call a good barristar - lawyer & then contact them thru them.

You might want to edit your initial post and add this in bold for people
just seeing this thread. I am glad to see that this has been resolved
to your satisfaction.

Are you serious? Sue GM? What do they have to do with this? That is the definition of a frivolous lawsuit. Just below the level of this jackass that wrecked the vette.

What does he have to lose?
1.Self Respect
2.Dignity
3.Lawyer/Court Costs
4.Time away from work

There is nothing wrong with bugging GM about this to put pressure on the dealer, but they are in NO way at fault.

Thats the best news I have heard all day. I am glad you and the dealership came to a favorable agreement. I was very disheartend after reading this but am very happy it will come to a happier ending.

I have been following this post for a few days now. I am glad that you have reached a satisfactory settlement. A few thing have been bothering me though. Why did you send the guy who just wrecked your car a get well card, and flowers if I recall correctly? Did you ever get a police report? Did you ever find out why he was driving your car? Are there any charges that should be brought against this person, IE Grand Theft Auto? What happened to the reporting of this matter, why was this silenced? I for one would not be so quick to accept and drop this matter, there is more going on here. Especially since they are starting to play let's make a deal. My suggestion is to keep the pressure on and see what happens. Again I am glad for you that you have reached an agreement. Please post some pix's of your new toy! Good Luck:)

I disagree. We need to get rid of frivilous law suits. There is nothing frivilous about this one. :smash:

I am, too. But while I don't want him to go for the jugular vein, I do think he is not only entitled to "a good deal." He deserves an outstanding deal! And I hope that's what he got.

I, or we, don't need to know all the details of the actual deal, but I do hope it was beyond just satisfactory---first time this ever happened to the dealership or not. It happened, and as the saying goes, deal with it. I hope, for the OP's sake, they did.

When you get your next car Twin-Turbo, I hope you come back on and show us pictures of it. :thumbs::cheers:

PS I DO believe the dealership "got the message" from the various boards and forums that started to give good publicity to the plight of the Corvette owner.

For those interested, the deal is that I will pick up the tab for 2/3rds of the balance towards a new C6, outfitted just as the one totaled and Koenen will pick up the tab for the remaining 1/3rd. That's the deal we agreed upon via phone and that he confirmed in an email. This is an understanding I can live with. Still it means I have to pay a very substantial amount towards this new car. I was never expecting to receive a new car "for free", something that is being speculated on several other websites.

Apparently Mr Koenen was under the impression that I was being less than truthful in my original post, which is not the case. However, it was explained to me that he had used Google Translate. I can not be held accountable or responsible for translation errors or inaccuracies resulting from his use of Google translator.

Mr Koenen assured me that he fully understood how after their email from last Friday regarding the initial offer (50K euros towards a new car paid by me), that I declined, I was upset to hear their response of that being their final offer and how I, as a result of that, was under the impression that that was their final offer and they had no intention of making this right, especially since I hadn't heard from them since for a couple of days. He was very apologetic about this misunderstanding and assured me they were aware that they could and should have taken a different approach.
He also agreed that it could not be that I would solely bear the financian burden of this mishap by having to pay for the remainder of the amount towards a new corvette or be forced to buy a hand me down from the settlement of the insurance company (which is blue book value and didn't represent the immaculate condition of my car in my opinion)

My standpoint from the beginning was, and always has been that Koenen should not make a dime on a new car and that they pick up part of the tab.

Of coursse there will always be persons saying that I lucked out, came out on top and made a hell of a deal in the end. However, it's not a choice I made, this was forced upon me. I was not in the market for a new car as the one I had was in showroom condition with only 35K miles on the odo. They also seem to forget that I still have to pony up a substantial amount of money. It's not like I got a freebee, in fact that kind of money would buy a sweet used car.
Mr Koenen fully understood where I was coming from and I sincerely hope, expect and trust that he will honor our agreement. With all the discussion this has raised here and elsewhere I felt the need to fully lay out the details on the matter.

Thanks again for all the support.

I will post the pics of the new car when it gets here. At this time I can tell, it will be a cyber gray coupe.

Well, you still have my full support and your explanation is far more complete (re the details of the deal which we are not entitled to) than I would have expected. I am glad you are happy with the deal.

Good luck! :thumbs::cheers: