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Ryda85 01-08-2010 08:20 PM

c5 auto vs gto
 
what do you guys think about an auto c5 vs an 05 auto gto?

i am able to find 05s with half the mileage for about the same price as an auto c5 with 60k miles.

is the ls2 a better platform?

just trying to decide if its better to have a newer car with less miles, newer motor, and a back seat.

andrewdonald1 01-08-2010 08:25 PM

one of my co-workers has a newer GTO (around 2004 or so).
He's had a lot of problems with it, things like windows not working etc.
I think he is pretty frustrated with it.
Unless your heart is on the GTO, I'd go with the C5.
Frankly I don't like the looks of the GTO, I think it is very blah...

0331MARINE 01-08-2010 08:26 PM

I say stick with the Vette. With power VS weight and the way the Vette is designed it is much more fun.

Vette Cruz-in 01-08-2010 08:36 PM

I had an brand new 05 GTO and sold it for an 00 A4 C5. The 05/06 GTO is not a bad car, just not a fun to drive or to take to a car shows. I picked it up because it had a back seat (I have young 3 kids) and I still decided to sell it and get a C5.

Get the C5 and you'll be happy!

Ryda85 01-08-2010 08:41 PM

local gto here is an 05 with 30k miles for 14k, or a 99 c5 a4 with 62k miles for 12500.


they both run about the same times stock. buddy of mine tells me with bolt ons and a shot 05 gtos are doing 10.90-11.10s. hows that stack up to the vette?

ahh decisions decisions

Indy 01-08-2010 08:43 PM

C5 looks far better and weights a lot less...so even with more power, the GTO will not be quicker.

0331MARINE 01-08-2010 08:47 PM

2005 GTO Specs
Engine 6.0 V-8
Acceleration, 0-60 MPH 0-60 MPH: 4.97
Quarter Mile 13.33@107.47


2001 C5 Specs
0-60 mph, man. trans. (sec) 4.5 (manual) 5.0 (auto)
1/4 mile manual (sec./mph) 13.22 / 109 mph

Ryda85 01-08-2010 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by 0331MARINE (Post 1572691400)
2005 GTO Specs
Engine 6.0 V-8
Acceleration, 0-60 MPH 0-60 MPH: 4.97
Quarter Mile 13.33@107.47


2001 C5 Specs
0-60 mph, man. trans. (sec) 4.5 (manual) 5.0 (auto)
1/4 mile manual (sec./mph) 13.22 / 109 mph


im looking at a 99 auto....

also, which one will be faster with stock heads/cam?

0331MARINE 01-08-2010 09:02 PM

Ok get a 99 and put a LS6 intake manifold on it and problem solved. :flag:

Mr.Bill 01-08-2010 09:29 PM

Here is my input.
If you need the extra seats the GTO is a fine car, Looks good and fun, But it isn't a Corvette, If you don't need the extra seats you can't beat the Vette, It will in most cases with the driver mod will out perform the GTO, There is nothing like having an America Legend.
Mr.Bill

0331MARINE 01-08-2010 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Mr.Bill (Post 1572691931)
Here is my input.
If you need the extra seats the GTO is a fine car, Looks good and fun, But it isn't a Corvette, If you don't need the extra seats you can't beat the Vette, It will in most cases with the driver mod will out perform the GTO, There is nothing like having an America Legend.
Mr.Bill

:iagree: Very well put Mr.Bill

Vetteman Jack 01-08-2010 09:58 PM

If you need a back seat, then your choice is clear - go with the GTO.

Otherwise, get the C5 for a lot more driving fun.

JW Motorsports 01-08-2010 09:59 PM

Get the C5. You won't regret it.

65 Drivr 01-08-2010 11:06 PM

C5
 
Buy the C5 for 12500 and take the 1500 difference that you would have spent on the GTO and make the C5 faster. :thumbs:

NJ Vette Guy 01-08-2010 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by Ryda85 (Post 1572691339)
local gto here is an 05 with 30k miles for 14k, or a 99 c5 a4 with 62k miles for 12500.


they both run about the same times stock. buddy of mine tells me with bolt ons and a shot 05 gtos are doing 10.90-11.10s. hows that stack up to the vette?

ahh decisions decisions

Went to the dealer today and saw a GTO there....

It was red... I wasn't too impressed. If it didn't say "GTO" on it, I would have thought is was a Buick Skylark... LOL

I could see a Cougar MILF driving one though..... :cool:

Buy the C5... I sold mine today and got a C6 ZO6. You'll be real happy, trust me.... :thumbs:

Fastbird 01-08-2010 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by Ryda85 (Post 1572691092)
what do you guys think about an auto c5 vs an 05 auto gto?

i am able to find 05s with half the mileage for about the same price as an auto c5 with 60k miles.

is the ls2 a better platform?

just trying to decide if its better to have a newer car with less miles, newer motor, and a back seat.

The engine isn't the platform you should be worried about. The LS2 is just the evolution of the LS1. It's just a little more cubes with LS6 power.

The cars are distinctly different though. I have a 99 Vette, a good friend of mine has a 05 GTO he bought new. I tell you if I hadn't bought my vette when I did I could have easily ended up in a GTO. The build quality, tightness, lack of rattles, ect, is far and beyond ahead of the C5. But, that's offset by pretty bland looks and sheer weight of the car. FWIW my buddy hasn't had ANY warranty work done to his 05 GTO since buying it new (70K miles currently) and with just simple bolt on's is putting about 380/380 to the ground.

They're good cars, and make awesome daily drivers IMO. Just comes down to personal preference.

83Camaro 01-09-2010 12:22 AM

you want a purpose built sports car? or do you want a grand am with a v8?

Ryda85 01-09-2010 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by Fastbird (Post 1572693447)
The engine isn't the platform you should be worried about. The LS2 is just the evolution of the LS1. It's just a little more cubes with LS6 power.

The cars are distinctly different though. I have a 99 Vette, a good friend of mine has a 05 GTO he bought new. I tell you if I hadn't bought my vette when I did I could have easily ended up in a GTO. The build quality, tightness, lack of rattles, ect, is far and beyond ahead of the C5. But, that's offset by pretty bland looks and sheer weight of the car. FWIW my buddy hasn't had ANY warranty work done to his 05 GTO since buying it new (70K miles currently) and with just simple bolt on's is putting about 380/380 to the ground.

They're good cars, and make awesome daily drivers IMO. Just comes down to personal preference.



any regrets getting the vette? wish you had the gto at any times?

Jet-Jock 01-09-2010 10:08 AM

Have you driven them both yet?

That may alter your decision one way or another.

Fastbird 01-09-2010 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Ryda85 (Post 1572694162)
any regrets getting the vette? wish you had the gto at any times?

When I was daily driving my vette, I second guessed myself. Now that it's a pleasure only vehicle, none at all. The ONLY reason I was second guessing myself was because of the amount of time I spent in the car. I was commuting over an hour a day at 25K + miles a year when I bought my Vette (though I only used it as a DD for 3 or so months). The Vette seats, while comfy, pale in comparison to the GTO seats, and the GTO was quieter and better insulated. I had just come out of a Lincoln LS and missed the quietness and comfort level which the GTO would have given me back part of. I just took some time to realize that they're two distinctly different cars and that the Vette was going to have compromises. Once I figured that out, the second guessing when away.

Vette Cruz-in 01-09-2010 11:08 AM

I'm sure you know this but if you get an auto C5 and you want to compare it to a 05 GTO - make sure the C5 has the optional 3.15 gears - the 2.73s will not be a good comparison to the GTO - the GTO will feel much stronger off the line.

I've owned the 05 GTO and I have a C5 with bolt ons and the 3.15 and it feels much stronger/better response then the stock auto 6.0 GT0. I've driven a C5 with the 2.73s and was not happy with the comparison. Pics of the GTO are in my album.

andrewdonald1 01-09-2010 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Jet-Jock (Post 1572695580)
Have you driven them both yet?

That may alter your decision one way or another.

My thoughts exactly.
Drive the GTO.
Then drive the Vette.

Then tell us your educated opinions/experience and ask further questions.

dlivewyer 01-09-2010 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Ryda85 (Post 1572691339)
local gto here is an 05 with 30k miles for 14k, or a 99 c5 a4 with 62k miles for 12500.

That's a damn good price for the c5. :thumbs:

Here's something to consider........add 3 years and 30K miles to each one. It'd be safe to say that the vette will still hold most of its current value while the GTO will be worth about half of its current value. There's lots of c5's out there with 90-100K miles priced in the 12K range.

Another point is........with the GTO, you just have another average 'look like everything else' car that doesn't hold any kind of 'special' or 'higher' stature in the car realm.

A corvette however.............the name speaks for itself. :cool:

deadcafe 01-09-2010 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Ryda85 (Post 1572691339)
local gto here is an 05 with 30k miles for 14k, or a 99 c5 a4 with 62k miles for 12500.


they both run about the same times stock. buddy of mine tells me with bolt ons and a shot 05 gtos are doing 10.90-11.10s. hows that stack up to the vette?

ahh decisions decisions


I have seen a stock 99 coupe with some weight reduction and gears run a 10.99 (Horsepowersales out of Pompano Beach Fl. runs this combo at the Gator Nationals) He runs the stock class. (stock heads/cam/intake).

Not that a GTO cant be made to be fast. It is just a bit more costly and tough. I would gladly take a lighter C5/FRC/Z06 over the GTO.

Elite_vette 01-09-2010 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by 0331MARINE (Post 1572691400)
2005 GTO Specs
Engine 6.0 V-8
Acceleration, 0-60 MPH 0-60 MPH: 4.97
Quarter Mile 13.33@107.47


2001 C5 Specs
0-60 mph, man. trans. (sec) 4.5 (manual) 5.0 (auto)
1/4 mile manual (sec./mph) 13.22 / 109 mph

Funny my auto C5 has beaten manual C5 before.... So we need to not look at the times that GM says the car will do because they test them with professional drivers..... Although I do understand what your saying... Manual are normally faster on the start....

To answer the question at hand... Buy the GTO if you have finance it... It is newer less miles and they are fun cars... The C5 is amazing in every way... Unless your paying cash for the car the GTO will be cheaper in the long run...

For the one's who going to question my post it is a fact... A bank will finance the GTO at a cheaper interest rate than the C5... The C5 is 11 years old and it will qualify as a personal loan with a much higher interest rate...

By posting on a corvette site your going to get everyone telling you to by a corvette... It is like asking us which car a Mustang Cobra or a Corvette... No one on here will tell you to buy a Mustang over a corvette... The same will go for the GTO....

GrandSportRob 01-09-2010 05:03 PM

I think the C5 is a corvette that has a timeless design and beauty to it..The GTO is a bloated Cavalier with a nice interior/engine but styling is boring and leaves alot to be desired. Can't even compare the two..

otg1sl 01-09-2010 10:51 PM

I own both cars and you're comparing apples and oranges......a C5 was a $50K car new and a GTO was $20K less than that......apples and oranges man. I will say the GTO seats are FAR more comfortable and better quality than the C5 seats .....

Black-Sheep 01-09-2010 11:01 PM

I had an 06 GTO with the 6spd. I bought my 03 Vert and sold my GTO. Yes, they are to entirely different cars. Yes, they are both fast. But, the GTO is no Vette. The GTO was fast, but it was a heavy and did not handle like the Vette. I did not want to keep both of them so I sold the GTO with 3200 miles on it. I did like it, but it was no Vette.

Ryda85 01-10-2010 04:46 AM

well guys i just want to say thank you to all of you for your help on the subject. I have decided to go with the vette. I have always wanted one and its not my daily driver anyway. i am going to pick her up this week. its a 99 with 60k miles for 12500. is this a decent deal or should i keep looking. high miles on a car scare me.

heres a pic of her!

only problem is it has 2.73 gears
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i300/Ez1470/vette.jpg

dlivewyer 01-10-2010 11:42 AM

That's a pretty damn good deal compared to what I've seen out there lately. Good luck with the purchase. :cheers:

Ryda85 01-10-2010 01:11 PM

Well let this be a lesson to all potential buyers :

You snooze, you lose!

Called today to put a deposit on it and pick it up tomorrow and there was a buyer there taking it home as I called. Sucks.

Mr.Bill 01-10-2010 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Ryda85 (Post 1572707342)
Well let this be a lesson to all potential buyers :

You snooze, you lose!

Called today to put a deposit on it and pick it up tomorrow and there was a buyer there taking it home as I called. Sucks.

There will be more.

83Camaro 01-10-2010 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Ryda85 (Post 1572704377)
well guys i just want to say thank you to all of you for your help on the subject. I have decided to go with the vette. I have always wanted one and its not my daily driver anyway. i am going to pick her up this week. its a 99 with 60k miles for 12500. is this a decent deal or should i keep looking. high miles on a car scare me.

heres a pic of her!

only problem is it has 2.73 gears
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i300/Ez1470/vette.jpg

Its worth quite a bit more then that, your basically paying trade in value to a dealer, which is why someone else bought it super good deal.

C5XTASY 01-10-2010 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Ryda85 (Post 1572691339)
buddy of mine tells me with bolt ons and a shot 05 gtos are doing 10.90-11.10s. hows that stack up to the vette?

ahh decisions decisions

Maybe with a "bolt on" supercharger and a 400 shot. :rofl: Those things are a tank.
Ed

Jacks02 01-10-2010 02:53 PM

So, that one got away -- keep looking. Craigslist is your friend, and keep a check in your wallet for a deposit.

This is Corvette Forum -- did you ask for replies to the same questions on the GTO forum? They won't have access to dealerships, and not much to choose from on the aftermarket compared to a Vette. Selection of the Vette or the "goat" boils down to your "needs." On CF, we've already made our choices. Good luck on whatever you decide.

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