Originally Posted by GCD1962
(Post 1569519562)
What GM says now and what happens in 60 days might be a much different picture. My guess is that more drastic measures will be taken than now announced up until today. GM will barely have enough money to make it to the next 60 days (funded by the gov't). Some form of bankruptcy is almost certain and any surviving parts of GM will be under the watchful eye of the gov't. Any hint of money going towards high performance cars, Nascar and racing sponsership, etc will not go over well with the gov't watchers. I think the best hope for the survival of the Corvette would be a full closurer of Bowling Green and the line consolidated in another plant somewhere once things settle down and GM shows signs of once again making money.
As far as the announcement of the 2010 Corvette, that is simply a matter of "business continuing" until otherwise directed. Not everything stops - planning of new models, ongoing engineering, etc. because the company is in trouble, but none of the announcements should be taken as set in cement. |
Originally Posted by GCD1962
(Post 1569523988)
I don't watch Fox news, MSNBC or the like. You need to understand how the gov't works. It is now controlling GM, even new CEO said as much. It's taxpayers money now and with all the flak the gov't received about AIG and financial bailouts they are going to be extra cautious with the auto companies. In normal times there would be a business case, now there isn't and all its going to take is one gov't person sounding off about GM investing money in "gas guzzling" (the words they would use, not me) performance cars, or "wasting" taxpayer money on auto racing that burns precious oil and pollutes (again, the words they would use), The White House and GM leaders will cave in to the cries in an instant. Gov't already said in its report on GM that it "needs to focus on the small, fuel efficient cars that today's consumers want" Yeah, I know that's crap too, but that's how they are thinking. The axe is falling and there is no one willing to catch it.
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Hmm... A Grand Sport with a widebody with badges! Imagine how many feathers that would ruffle!
If it's true I'd like to see what all the widebody haters would say... :crazy: |
Originally Posted by Z06LUST
(Post 1569523434)
Where did you come up with this crap? Stop watching the idiots on Fox News... If a business case is made for investment in racing--helps with sales...it will continue.
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Originally Posted by Z06LUST
(Post 1569523434)
Where did you come up with this crap? Stop watching the idiots on Fox News... If a business case is made for investment in racing--helps with sales...it will continue.
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Why do people argue Liberal verses Conservative? I never got that, the government is stupid regardless who is in charge, politicians are crooks regardless of party. The entire system is filled with people who are unfit to be in the office, because the actually competent people are doing something useful with their lives like teaching or research or making things.
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Originally Posted by runutzzzzz
(Post 1569524456)
Hmm... A Grand Sport with a widebody with badges! Imagine how many feathers that would ruffle!
If it's true I'd like to see what all the widebody haters would say... :crazy: An actual legitimate model of a car, always trumps a bastardized version of another model of car. Its really that simple.;) So if there is a wide bodied version Grand Sport, then refer right back to this post for this person's perspective on it. :thumbs: :cheers: |
Originally Posted by 2vettes
(Post 1569515666)
1YY87 Corvette Z06
1YY87 Corvette ZR1 The same? By the numbers In addition to the exterior cues and powertrain, ZR1 models will be distinguished from other Corvette models by their VIN. Each will carry a unique, identifying VIN digit, as well as a sequential build number. This makes it easy to determine the build number of a specific car - information treasured by enthusiasts and collectors. For example, a ZR1 with a VIN ending in "0150" would indicate it is the 150 th ZR1 built for the model year. |
Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
(Post 1569525040)
This one would simply say that it came from the factory that way and is a special edition, indeed an actual legitimate model of Corvette, as opposed to something someone went into their garage and pieced together with parts purchased over the internet in an attempt to make their car to look like a model which it is not.
An actual legitimate model of a car, always trumps a bastardized version of another model of car. Its really that simple.;) So if there is a wide bodied version Grand Sport, then refer right back to this post for this person's perspective on it. :thumbs: :cheers: "The bastards say... 'Welcome' " LOL (quote from about 30 years ago... extra Geek points for you if you know the source! ;) ) |
Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
(Post 1569521512)
Look for all of the premium performance Vettes, including the new Grand Sport, to have the wide body style to differentiate them from the base models.
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Originally Posted by TheTrot
(Post 1569524801)
Why do people argue Liberal verses Conservative? I never got that, the government is stupid regardless who is in charge, politicians are crooks regardless of party. The entire system is filled with people who are unfit to be in the office, because the actually competent people are doing something useful with their lives like teaching or research or making things.
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Originally Posted by Kent1999
(Post 1569526171)
"The bastards say... 'Welcome' " LOL
(quote from about 30 years ago... extra Geek points for you if you know the source! ;) ) In the Pulitzer prize winning "The Soul Of A New Machine", Tracy Kidder wrote of an ad that Data General produced but never ran. It read: "They Say IBM's Entry Into Minicomputers Will Legitimize The Market. The Bastards Say, Welcome" Is this it? Whatever and I hope I'm not a Geek! |
Was hoping for a widebody option for convertible :(
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Originally Posted by GotVett?
(Post 1569526274)
The (Cloud) Bastards say, Welcome
In the Pulitzer prize winning "The Soul Of A New Machine", Tracy Kidder wrote of an ad that Data General produced but never ran. It read: "They Say IBM's Entry Into Minicomputers Will Legitimize The Market. The Bastards Say, Welcome" Is this it? Whatever and I hope I'm not a Geek! ;) |
Originally Posted by Kent1999
(Post 1569526319)
That's it! +10 Geek points for you... Congrats! lol
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Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
(Post 1569521512)
Look for all of the premium performance Vettes, including the new Grand Sport, to have the wide body style to differentiate them from the base models.
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Originally Posted by AirBusPilot
(Post 1569526213)
So GM decided to add the wide body to the base vette and it's now a "premium performance" vette? And not a Z06 "clone"? lol. I love it.
Heres a hint. If they are going to make a Corvette and call it a Grand Sport, I'm betting that it will have more performance features on it and more power than the base model of the same year. Better performing suspension parts brakes and tires at the very least. And not just a Z06/ZR1 lookalike wide body that any hack can do in his garage. I know that you would like nothing more than for GM to "legitimize" the clandestine practice of building the abomination faux Z06s from otherwise base C6s by building them themselves. :D Ain't gonna happen. :D And even if it does, well then its still a faux Z06, and I'll call it that no matter who builds it. Its still a base Vette wearing Z06 clothes, no matter who went to the trouble to build it. What was that you said about the C6 ZHZ?????? Something about it being a poser, but with the manufacturer being the poser???
Originally Posted by AirBusPilot
(Post 1569332613)
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I'll field this question. Yes, it's a poser. Except in this case it's based on marketing. Carrying the Z mystique over into the rental fleet. .... At any rate, if that happens, then you will know beyond any shadow of a doubt that GM is on it's last leg, if it has to make all of it's Vettes look like ZR1s and Z06s in an attempt to move more of them. |
Originally Posted by Vette Suspension
(Post 1569526648)
And just how do you know this?
Aside from Fichtner, and thats even in part of the discussion going on currently in this thread, how does anyone in this thread know what 2010 holds for the Vette, or GM for that matter, at this point in time? |
Originally Posted by '06 Quicksilver Z06
(Post 1569526717)
Go back and read what I said. I think you missed something. :D
Heres a hint. If they are going to make a Corvette and call it a Grand Sport, I'm betting that it will have more performance features on it. And not just a Z06/ZR1 lookalike wide body that any hack can do in his garage.I know that you would like nothing more than for GM to "legitimize" the clandestine practice of building the abomination faux Z06s by building them themselves. :D Ain't gonna happen. :D And even if it does, its still a faux Z06, no matter who builds it. What was that you said about the C6 ZHZ?????? Something about it being a poser, but with the manufacturer being the poser??? Same would apply here. :D At any rate, if that happens, then you will know beyond any shadow of a doubt that GM is on it's last leg, if it has to make all of it's Vettes look like ZR1s and Z06s in an attempt to move more of them. |
What about the interior, any changes???
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