Thanks Brudda.
I can see now why you group everything together when done! I'll keep working at it. Michael |
Originally Posted by tstar
(Post 1568381212)
Here's an example of what I strive to do... even lighting among ALL the components;
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...d/DSC02115.jpg This is accomplished in alot of different ways, resistor values, Different mcd ratings, varying the distance of the LEDs to the "target" ect... Tim |
I used this thread to do my HVAC today.
Now when I plug it in to the car, the LED's light up nice and bright but NOTHING works. :( The display stays blank, the selection lights on the HVAC buttons do not light up, the A/C won't even turn on. Did I break something? |
Originally Posted by TriPinTaZ
(Post 1568415269)
I used this thread to do my HVAC today.
Now when I plug it in to the car, the LED's light up nice and bright but NOTHING works. :( The display stays blank, the selection lights on the HVAC buttons do not light up, the A/C won't even turn on. Did I break something? I was putting LED's in my PRNDL A4 selector last night and didn't disconnect the battery. One thing led to another and I ground-shorted the light power. It took out a fuse that gave me all sorts of issues tracking it down. Had power to the HID ballasts but the light buckets wouldn't drop. Some other funky symptoms, too. found the blown 10amp fuse in the footwell station and replaced. Good to go then. Had me worried for a bit. I'll check my manual troubleshooting section, maybe get lucky... |
Originally Posted by sublime1996525
(Post 1568385047)
WOW Tim looks great. I kind of gave up for a bit on trying to get all my lighting perfect. I didn't really think it was possible but know that I see yours I might have new found motivation to keep trying.
Tim |
Originally Posted by TriPinTaZ
(Post 1568415269)
I used this thread to do my HVAC today.
Now when I plug it in to the car, the LED's light up nice and bright but NOTHING works. :( The display stays blank, the selection lights on the HVAC buttons do not light up, the A/C won't even turn on. Did I break something?
Originally Posted by mtndv8
(Post 1568415374)
Not an expert but a couple of things I'd check are all the connections and corresponding fuses.
I was putting LED's in my PRNDL A4 selector last night and didn't disconnect the battery. One thing led to another and I ground-shorted the light power. It took out a fuse that gave me all sorts of issues tracking it down. Had power to the HID ballasts but the light buckets wouldn't drop. Some other funky symptoms, too. found the blown 10amp fuse in the footwell station and replaced. Good to go then. Had me worried for a bit. I'll check my manual troubleshooting section, maybe get lucky... Tim |
Originally Posted by tstar
(Post 1568415940)
Hopefully you didn't blow the power board!
Tim All of the LED's work the way they should. But that is it. nothing else lights up. Fuses and connection all look fine. The soldering points also look clean. I dunno how I would have blown the power board. I thought I read a thread on this somewhere before. Someone was doing the HVAC LED mod and had the same issue I am having. I forgot the outcome and I have not been able to find it in a search yet. |
Make sure and check for solder bridges! YOu may have more problems than that but check it first.
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Originally Posted by nascar57
(Post 1568423422)
Make sure and check for solder bridges! YOu may have more problems than that but check it first.
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A couple of times members have blown the power board by having a shorted LED connection on the display board. The typical result is that the LEDs will never turn off but the HVAC functions correctly, sometimes the LEDs won't dim via the dimmer switch but again, the HVAC functions correctly.
I'm having a hard time believing that your LED swap caused the HVAC to stop working altogether, minus a bad connection (inside and outside the HVAC, bent or missing pin?) or blown fuse... You should check to make sure you have power at pins 5, 12 and 16 at the connector using pin 1 as the reference ground. Have you checked the fuse? What Model number is your HVAC (on the back of it)?? Can the LEDs be controlled by the Headlight and Dimmer switchs or are they just ON all the time? Tim |
Originally Posted by tstar
(Post 1568426954)
A couple of times members have blown the power board by having a shorted LED connection on the display board. The typical result is that the LEDs will never turn off but the HVAC functions correctly, sometimes the LEDs won't dim via the dimmer switch but again, the HVAC functions correctly.
I'm having a hard time believing that your LED swap caused the HVAC to stop working altogether, minus a bad connection (inside and outside the HVAC, bent or missing pin?) or blown fuse... You should check to make sure you have power at pins 5, 12 and 16 at the connector using pin 1 as the reference ground. Have you checked the fuse? What Model number is your HVAC (on the back of it)?? Can the LEDs be controlled by the Headlight and Dimmer switchs or are they just ON all the time? Tim I appreciate the help. My HVAC was working perfectly fine before the LED swap:willy: |
Originally Posted by tstar
(Post 1568426954)
A couple of times members have blown the power board by having a shorted LED connection on the display board. The typical result is that the LEDs will never turn off but the HVAC functions correctly, sometimes the LEDs won't dim via the dimmer switch but again, the HVAC functions correctly.
I'm having a hard time believing that your LED swap caused the HVAC to stop working altogether, minus a bad connection (inside and outside the HVAC, bent or missing pin?) or blown fuse... You should check to make sure you have power at pins 5, 12 and 16 at the connector using pin 1 as the reference ground. Have you checked the fuse? What Model number is your HVAC (on the back of it)?? Can the LEDs be controlled by the Headlight and Dimmer switchs or are they just ON all the time? Tim -The LED's dim with the dimmer switch, they also turn on and off properly with the interior lighting. -HVAC has no bent or missing pins. -No fuses in the car are blown. -I have power on pins 5,12, and 16. -When I plug the HVAC into the car the front windshield defroster comes on and pressing the buttons does nothing. The little orange selector LED's are not lit and the green display screen does not light up either. -Model # is 09380441 Which pins can I apply 12v power to and a ground to see if the display lights up? The HVAC worked perfectly fine before the LED swap. I am not new to soldering and electronic work and I think I did a good job at this. I wonder what went wrong :( |
Are all the 241 SMT resistors on the power board makng a good connection? I assumed you did the Dim Display fix while you were in there, maybe that was a bad assumption??
FYI 5, 12 and 16 will power up the whole HVAC, pin 16 is the interior lighting circuit... Tim |
Originally Posted by tstar
(Post 1568438262)
Are all the 241 SMT resistors on the power board makng a good connection? I assumed you did the Dim Display fix while you were in there, maybe that was a bad assumption??
FYI 5, 12 and 16 will power up the whole HVAC, pin 16 is the interior lighting circuit... Tim I will try applying power to pins 5,12, and 16 all at once tonight and see what happens. I presume pin # 1 is the ground? |
yep... Pin 1 is ground
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Thanks Tstar
I will try it tonight and post a picture of the results |
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Ok, when I apply power to 5,12,16 and ground at 1 I get the same thing as when I plug it into the car. All LED's light up, no display and no orange LED's in the buttons.
Here is a picture: Attachment 48178802 |
OK we know it's isolated to the HAVC... I would go over both boards with a magnifying glass, look for lifted tracks, dropped solder (which could be anywhere on the board), part of a cut LED lead that may have gotten stuck somewhere on a board, look closely for a solder bridge between an LED hook-up.
It's something that happened while you did the LED swap so it should be able to be found... pretty unique problem though. Tim |
Originally Posted by tstar
(Post 1568450902)
OK we know it's isolated to the HAVC... I would go over both boards with a magnifying glass, look for lifted tracks, dropped solder (which could be anywhere on the board), part of a cut LED lead that may have gotten stuck somewhere on a board, look closely for a solder bridge between an LED hook-up.
It's something that happened while you did the LED swap so it should be able to be found... pretty unique problem though. Tim I just went over it a third time with a jewelers magnifying glass. Looked for dropped soldering, bridged LED's on both sides, pieces of a cut LED lead....nothing :( If i bridged the LED's it would either short the LED out or cause the LED's always on issue. I think I managed to damage something else somehow when testing for power. Thanks for the help Tim. I am actually shipping it to the EBAY repair guy tomorrow to get fixed. IF that does not work I will just bite the bullet and buy a new unit for $265 :( Altho I still want my LEDs! I planned on doing the LED mod to my door control buttons too. Once this issue is resolved I will resume my efforts. I will let you know if it can be repaired and what the problem was. Thanks again for your help Tim.:thumbs: -Jason |
Jason,
Man that's a real head scratcher! I don't have a clue what could have happened, I'm not sure the guy on EBay can fix it but I hope so for your sake!!! When you start again, I ALWAYS ohm the LEDs for shorts first then light them up with a 9 volt battery, if all that looks good THEN I connect the display board up to the power board and fire everything up... Good luck to you... :thumbs: BTW interesting move making the Passenger script Red... Tim |
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