:iagree: Been there, done that !!!

;) I added the Ron Davis combo radiator/oil cooler to the 04/cheap insurance !!!

I run with lots of E36 amd E46 M3s in TT - they are not in the same class for the money of my 99 FRC (won NASA-SE TTB in 2006 and NASA-SE TTA in 2007) - not doing too bad in 2008 so far either....

Fair enough. But David Spencer won TTB Nationals in 2006 and placed 2nd in 2007 in an E46 M3 daily driver...we can have this argument all day long. It appears to be sacrilege on a Corvette board, but M3's can be as fast as a C5...

Let's take the blinders off, folks. C5's are amazing and if my 2008 race budget allowed I'd be driving one. But there are other cars out there that can be fast!

Here is an option...

http://www.motorsportvideo.tv/videos...omannsweg.html

only 1.3M Euro or around 3M US

A buddy just bought an Exige 240 . I'll let you know .:)

Fair enough, it is sacrilege on the Pcar and BMW boards to admit the C5 is comparible. Good thing for David Spencer I did not send Jake up there:D in 2006 or 2007....not likely in 2008 due to school conflicts.

By the way I wanted my wife to buy an E46 M3 instead of the 2005 GTO....she picked the GTO instead.

It is not sacrilege to me at all. I am just going off of experience. There is no way an M3 is going to hang with a C5 Z06 on the track... and this discussion was about the Z06 as a track car not straight C5. I cannot comment on the regular Corvette, but I have ample evidence from races and track day lap times to know that with comparable drivers a "stockish” M3 won't run as fast as "stockish" C5 Z06.

I am not so blind as to not believe other cars can run as fast or faster than C5 Z06. The newer vipers are a good example.

who wants to buy porsche part vs. chevy not me. Get a price on ceramic rotors . Great cars though. My ? is will a spec factory five cobra spank c5z or c6z on the track? thanks

Depends on the driver and/or the track - not likely a spec FFR will trounce a C5Z but it can happen on short tight tracks. The FFR has the aero of a F-4 so at VIR, Road Atlanta or other tracks where aero really shows it is no contest normally.

:iagree: I know for a fact that a stock M3 won't even come close to running what a stock C5 Z06 can run.

I think that the stock C5 Z is definitely one of the best bang for the buck track cars out there. Just change the pads and brake fluid and you're set. There's not much on the track that can match it stock for stock, even now.

Of course it CAN, but not stock vs stock. There is no M3 of any generation that can even be in the same ballpark if let's say R compound tires are the only mod for each car.

In fact, I'd bet a C5 coupe or stock FRC would walk all over an M3. The skimpy wheel widths and access weight are only more detriments as is the lack of Horsepower.

Not even the new M3 will be on the same level as the C5Z. Maybe a CSL version, but those have never been to the states and who knows if the new one will come.

Who has to buy Porsche parts? No one I know. And ceramic disks last so much longer than regular ones, they MAY actually be worth it. After talking to several instructors and people who track GT3's and TT's regularly the large majority of consensus is that you dont have to buy any parts. I know I havent and I've lost brakes at little talladega and went flying off course (4 ft into the air) @ 70 mph. Nothing but plastic undercarriage to replace, no frame damage, no bends (well the exhaust got a little dinged). With the regularity of having to fix stuff on corvettes, especially after you mod them, I'd bet long term efficiency favors the Porsche, at least it has in my case.

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