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Five Window 01-19-2007 01:46 PM

Splash Shields?
 
I have seen many pictures of the underbodies of midyears with what appear to be shields screwed to the frame and floor pan in front of the lower firewall on both sides. My '66 has no holes in the frame for the mounting of these shields. What are they called, and did all cars have them?
Also, did '66 coupes have side seat belt cables or just a central one? My side belts appear to bolt to the frame directly (though I have to admit I haven't looked too closely).

Thanks

wombvette 01-19-2007 02:04 PM

Yes, It should have the splash shields. There should be a bracket at the front lower part of the tunnel and bolt holes down the inside edge of the frame.

66jack 01-19-2007 02:04 PM

did you look on the BOTTOM of the frame...?

there are 2 locations for sheilds innner and outer....

the outer bolts to the frame along with a bracket that is riveted to the body at the lower portion of the fier wall in the floorpan transition.

the inner sheild bolts to the inner fender and along the edge of the side fender if i remember.


jack

Paul L 01-19-2007 03:14 PM

These are the inner splash shields. They mount to the frame in front of the firewall. The louvers are a mod and non-GM-issue designed to carry engine heat away from the firewall and under the car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...shields004.jpg

w1ctc 01-19-2007 05:06 PM

I think the main purpose for these shields is to catch dropped tools, screws, bolts and other small parts and hide them:lol:

Blkblt 01-19-2007 05:34 PM

If anyone can post pics of these shields in place, it would be appreciated by those of us with '66s without them.

Thanks in advance! :thumbs: :cheers:

macdarren 01-19-2007 06:58 PM

I am with w1ctc, I never found these to prevent any meaningful splashing and I have certainly driven in rain. They do catch tools and parts you drop but small things can be a pain to fish out. since my 65 is totally non-stock I just took these out the last time the car was apart. I like the louver idea, but just removing them seems like a better way to get maximum air flow. Does anyone actually these things useful, maybe I will consider reinstalling them if I can find a good reason.

Paul L 01-19-2007 07:10 PM

OK, directs water up to the main firewall connections at the fusebox. Hence corrosion. Then those "sudden no power" threads.

Viet Nam Vett 01-19-2007 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by macdarren (Post 1558591185)
I am with w1ctc, I never found these to prevent any meaningful splashing and I have certainly driven in rain. They do catch tools and parts you drop but small things can be a pain to fish out. since my 65 is totally non-stock I just took these out the last time the car was apart. I like the louver idea, but just removing them seems like a better way to get maximum air flow. Does anyone actually these things useful, maybe I will consider reinstalling them if I can find a good reason.



Well I left mine out also.. When I dropped the 502 in and had the side pipes welded up to the headers I just left them off. Seems to be ok in the rain....And I mean Heavy Heavy rain..!! Did a few trips on the interstate in the pouring rain..Everything seems ok..:thumbs:

Paul L 01-19-2007 07:24 PM

Corrosion takes time to develop. Nice to see you over here from CAC, VNV!

tl-vette 01-19-2007 07:32 PM

i believe i read somewhere that a lot of people took them out for a number of reasons including being able to reach up from under and pop the hood if the cable broke or came unhooked. i had one still in mine when i got it.
TL

Paul L 01-19-2007 07:54 PM

Yes, that is the way to pop the hood cable. I have done it. But I suggest that GM designed them for a reason. Anyone who has had a fuse box connector failure (me) will know. Even with them in place as in my case. Without, watch out!

Viet Nam Vett 01-19-2007 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by paul67 (Post 1558591533)
Corrosion takes time to develop. Nice to see you over here from CAC, VNV!

Thanks for the welcome back Paul.. You have a PM
:thumbs: :cheers:

macdarren 01-19-2007 09:16 PM

good point about the fuse box connectors...I will be sure to seal mine up, and if I can get the shields to fit with the headers maybe I will even reinstall them.

Viet Nam Vett 01-19-2007 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by macdarren (Post 1558593160)
good point about the fuse box connectors...I will be sure to seal mine up, and if I can get the shields to fit with the headers maybe I will even reinstall them.

Ok..Now I'm worried... Didn't think about that Firewall connector......

Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh..!!!!:eek :

ricks327 01-19-2007 09:23 PM

Besides the water to the fuse block, I thought it was also a stone shield to cut down on the possibility of a large one being kicked up and penetrating the fiberglass footwell.


Rick

Viet Nam Vett 01-19-2007 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by ricks327 (Post 1558593253)
Besides the water to the fuse block, I thought it was also a stone shield to cut down on the possibility of a large one being kicked up and penetrating the fiberglass footwell.


Rick

Yeah..wouldn't want to lose my man hood to a 10" Bolder or kill off any sperm production...:eek: :lol:

macdarren 01-20-2007 05:00 PM

As I actually have an A/C equiped 65 so I have a big battery try and battery right above the spash shield on the driver side I doubt any significant water will get around that obstacle to the fuse connector. Small rocks probably not a problem either....and in truth I suspect the 3/8 inch of fiberglass has better stoping power than a think piece of sheet metal....Although I conceed GM must have figured it was worth it to include the shields or the would have saved the money, but I know too sometimes things just get included as a good idea and no actual testing was to done to confirm if it really made any difference.

Critter1 01-20-2007 05:18 PM

If you've ever driven a 63 through standing water at 30 MPH or more, you would immediately understand exactly why the shields were installed on all 64-67 cars. The sound of the water hitting the toe pan is enough to scare the socks off of anyone. Sounds like it's coming right through the floor.

Paul L 01-20-2007 05:25 PM

I do not have A/C and my battery is on the passenger side.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ngine06006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...verflow004.jpg

DZVette 01-20-2007 06:08 PM

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Blkblt

Here are pics from under my 65. Hope this is of use.

DZ

Paul L 01-20-2007 07:20 PM

DZ,
Nice pics. I am sure the poster will appreciate. For some reason I do not recall that large ground cable on the passenger side. I'll have to check that in the spring.

DZVette 01-20-2007 07:31 PM

Hi Paul67.
Thought that might raise an eyebrow or two! Probably unique to my car. I also had one one from the left side of the block to the top of the steering box of all places. I guess the PO was into grounding! I'll pull the other one somewhere down the road. Doubt I need it. All new LL Harnesses throughout the car last year.

Best regards!

DZ

PS: I really like that green car of yours!

Viet Nam Vett 01-20-2007 07:36 PM

....News Flash.... VNV has Brain Fart..!!!!

I went into the garage to look for my splash shileds so that I could install them. After a 20 min search I found them installed on the Vette.
Forgot that I did put them on....:eek:

DZVette 01-20-2007 07:49 PM

Now that's funny! VNV, maybe we can meet some time. My sister lives up in North Jersey. We're about due for a trip up that way.
Sure do miss the trips to "the shore".

DZ

Viet Nam Vett 01-20-2007 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by DZVette (Post 1558603895)
Now that's funny! VNV, maybe we can meet some time. My sister lives up in North Jersey. We're about due for a trip up that way.
Sure do miss the trips to "the shore".

DZ

Sounds like a plan DZ.. let me know when your gonna be in the hood:thumbs:

Blkblt 01-20-2007 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by DZVette (Post 1558602572)
Blkblt

Here are pics from under my 65. Hope this is of use.

DZ

Many thanks, DZ.....:cheers:

Pics say it all in these cases!!

Jeff

Blkblt 01-20-2007 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by Viet Nam Vett (Post 1558603723)
....News Flash.... VNV has Brain Fart..!!!!

I went into the garage to look for my splash shileds so that I could install them. After a 20 min search I found them installed on the Vette.
Forgot that I did put them on....:eek:

Good to see you around again VNV!!! :thumbs: :cheers:

Jeff
"The CCC STILL lives!"

JohnZ 01-20-2007 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by paul67 (Post 1558603510)
DZ,
Nice pics. I am sure the poster will appreciate. For some reason I do not recall that large ground cable on the passenger side. I'll have to check that in the spring.

If that's the battery ground cable, it goes under the head of the outboard starter attaching bolt (on a non-A/C car). :thumbs:

Paul L 01-21-2007 04:30 AM

That's where mine is. These cars have so many grounds I thought I had missed out on one. In fact I did have one missing until last summer when someone here mentioned that there was a ground cable on the accelerator rod.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../ground002.jpg

babbah 01-21-2007 06:11 AM

I need a replacment set of these sheilds. I cant find them in the LICS catalog or the AIM.

What are they called and who sells them?

JL66REDCPE 01-21-2007 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Viet Nam Vett (Post 1558603723)
....News Flash.... VNV has Brain Fart..!!!!

I went into the garage to look for my splash shileds so that I could install them. After a 20 min search I found them installed on the Vette.
Forgot that I did put them on....:eek:

You have been playing around with that Hummer too long !!!!

JohnZ 01-21-2007 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by babbah (Post 1558608927)
I need a replacment set of these sheilds. I cant find them in the LICS catalog or the AIM.

What are they called and who sells them?

They're underbody splash shields - all the vendors have them; I'm in Florida and don't have my A.I.M., but as I recall, they're in UPC 1 Bolt/Weld somewhere. :thumbs:

1Redctoo 01-21-2007 12:55 PM

splash shields
 
I'm glad someone asked this question . I bought my car 4yrs ago and the shields are still setting in a box under my work bench . Ive looked around a little bit to see how they might install but have never tried to attach them. I figured they were removed to cut down on the heat build up in the engine compartment . I have had fuse box corrosion problems before but I cleaned up the box and no problems since , but I very rarely drive the car in the rain .
If anyone can post pics of them installed it would be great

DZVette 01-21-2007 09:18 PM

Hi John! Mine is an AC car and I have the battery ground to the bell housing (Powerglide housing) on the driver side. This one was installed by a PO. I'll yank it one of these days. Until then I guess my car is well grounded. Wish I could say that about the rest of me.

Dave Z

Aussie67L71 01-22-2007 09:04 AM

I've often thought what these might be for and water splash shields seams a pretty good bet. Do you think that the GM boys may also have had under body stream-lining in mind also, or is this a bit of a stretch and giving them too much credit? Just a thought. Best Regards, Gary (Perth, Australia)

wmf62 01-22-2007 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Aussie67L71 (Post 1558623359)
I've often thought what these might be for and water splash shields seams a pretty good bet. Do you think that the GM boys may also have had under body stream-lining in mind also, or is this a bit of a stretch and giving them too much credit? Just a thought. Best Regards, Gary (Perth, Australia)


that's too much of a stretch....
Bill

JohnZ 01-22-2007 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by DZVette (Post 1558618919)
Hi John! Mine is an AC car and I have the battery ground to the bell housing (Powerglide housing) on the driver side. This one was installed by a PO. I'll yank it one of these days. Until then I guess my car is well grounded. Wish I could say that about the rest of me.

Dave Z

Dave, that setup is correct for an A/C car, as I posted above. :thumbs:

DZVette 01-23-2007 10:55 PM

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Hi John! Glad you had a safe return from FL. Believe it or not, my car also had an additional ground from the top of the steering box to the block when I got it. That one I removed when I reconfigured with a new cable from the battery to the correct location. Always an education!

Dave Z

mredi1 04-17-2007 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by paul67 (Post 1558588101)
These are the inner splash shields. They mount to the frame in front of the firewall. The louvers are a mod and non-GM-issue designed to carry engine heat away from the firewall and under the car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...shields004.jpg

I have a 65, removed them when I put headers on, found one so far I think the other is lost. Any chance to get a set like the ones shown in your pictures ? They look qiute functional. Anything to cool my feet on a hot day in a 65 Coupe without AC. You could PM me if you know where I could get some like those. Thanks Tim

Crazyhorse 04-18-2007 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Aussie67L71 (Post 1558623359)
Do you think that the GM boys may also have had under body stream-lining in mind also


It sure seems that these would also serve that purpose as well.

I really like those louvered ones too.:thumbs:

Paul L 04-18-2007 10:34 AM

The louvers were added by a machine shop. I am not aware of any company selling them as a catalogue item.

Dennis Beck 04-18-2007 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by DZVette (Post 1558650421)
Hi John! Glad you had a safe return from FL. Believe it or not, my car also had an additional ground from the top of the steering box to the block when I got it. That one I removed when I reconfigured with a new cable from the battery to the correct location. Always an education!

Dave Z

Dave,
A previous owner may have had horn trouble on your car and was trying to get a good ground to the steering column. When I had horn problems in my 66 Coupe we ran a jumper wire from one side of the rag joint to the other side of the rag joint. This made my horn sound again. I have since fixed that properly. Just a thought.


Dennis


Sorry I see now that this is your negative battery cable. Duh!:o

magicv8 04-18-2007 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by mredi1 (Post 1559864396)
I have a 65, removed them when I put headers on, found one so far I think the other is lost. Any chance to get a set like the ones shown in your pictures ? They look qiute functional. Anything to cool my feet on a hot day in a 65 Coupe without AC. You could PM me if you know where I could get some like those. Thanks Tim

These will allow headers, allow more air flow than louvres, and heat shield your feet:
http://www.corvetteforum.net/classic...shieldrhsm.jpg
more pics here: http://www.corvetteforum.net/classic...e/index7.shtml


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