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rgreger 08-01-2006 11:34 AM

Pioneer Nav Unit AVIC-Z1
 
Has anyone installed this Pioneer Nav unit into their C6 2006 vette?

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pi...Z1%20large.jpg


In-dash DVD player/navigation system with built-in amplifier (22 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels)
Fits double-sized dash openings
Motorized 7" video screen with touch-panel controls
Turn-by-turn map and voice guidance
Built-in 30GB hard drive performs all navigation functions
Stores up to 10GB of music files
Voice command capability; microphone included
Text-to-speech technology announces the names of most roads
Learning capability: remembers frequently traveled roads and suggests familiar routes
Smart routing algorithm takes data such as posted speed limits and number of turns into account to suggest the most efficient route possible
Plays DVDs, DVD-R/RWs, DVD+R/RWS, CDs, CD-R/RWs, and MP3/WMA discs
Navigation antenna included
Nearly 11 million points of interest
Roadside Assistance display
64MB internal memory
3-band parametric EQ
XM and SIRIUS Satellite Radio-ready (subscription also required)
Compatible with Pioneer's iPod interface adapter, Bluetooth adapter, and DVD/CD changer
Audio/video input
Rear-view camera input
Front, rear, and subwoofer preamp outputs
Tri-zone capable
Supertuner IIID AM/FM tuner
18 FM/6 AM presets
Designed for use with "Region 1" coded DVDs

meaniam 08-01-2006 01:33 PM

what is the cost?

rgreger 08-01-2006 02:02 PM

It list for around 2250.00 but I have found it online for under 1400.00 My plan is to purchase it online and find a good installer.... so the search is on.

I first saw this unit at a Car Toys store in Dallas. The harddrive built into the system makes it very easy to store your CD's. Everytime you put in a CD it hasen't played, it will rip it onto the HD so you don't need the CD again. I believe it saves it as an MP3 file so you can load lot's of music onto the system. The navigation software is also loaded onto the HD which gives faster access to the data than a typical DVD reader.

Here is a link to the pioneer site with lots of good information on the unit.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...html#AVIC-HOME

ZO6Gal 08-01-2006 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by rgreger
It list for around 2250.00 but I have found it online for under 1400.00 My plan is to purchase it online and find a good installer.... so the search is on.

I first saw this unit at a Car Toys store in Dallas. The harddrive built into the system makes it very easy to store your CD's. Everytime you put in a CD it hasen't played, it will rip it onto the HD so you don't need the CD again. I believe it saves it as an MP3 file so you can load lot's of music onto the system. The navigation software is also loaded onto the HD which gives faster access to the data than a typical DVD reader.

Here is a link to the pioneer site with lots of good information on the unit.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...html#AVIC-HOME


I have it and LOVE it! The Nav unit is excellent. I also like the fact that I can "download" a cd and develop my own library since it has a hard drive built in. It will record whatever you put in. I just had the XM processor installed and it comes with a traffic feature that will let you know what the traffic is like in the area in which your are travelling. I do not live in a large city but it is great when we are going to one. I cannot say anything negative about this unit. I have had it for a couple months now and really haven't figured everything out but it has so many features it will take a while to learn them all. You can't go wrong with the Z1. :cheers:


Robin

Eros 08-01-2006 03:01 PM

Z1
 
I bought it as well. Got it from http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=946 and they were offering a discount for CF Members a while back. I ended up buying the Sirius Tuner, the Bluetooth unit, the chime keeper, and Dashkit from them. I love the setup, and never had any issues with it. ;)

ZeusC6 08-01-2006 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by rgreger
It list for around 2250.00 but I have found it online for under 1400.00 My plan is to purchase it online and find a good installer.... so the search is on.

I first saw this unit at a Car Toys store in Dallas. The harddrive built into the system makes it very easy to store your CD's. Everytime you put in a CD it hasen't played, it will rip it onto the HD so you don't need the CD again. I believe it saves it as an MP3 file so you can load lot's of music onto the system. The navigation software is also loaded onto the HD which gives faster access to the data than a typical DVD reader.

Here is a link to the pioneer site with lots of good information on the unit.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...html#AVIC-HOME

Where are you getting this for $1400?

rgreger 08-01-2006 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by ZeusC6
Where are you getting this for $1400?


Here is a link to the web site selling the unit for 1484.00 and below one for 1439.00

I did a quick check on pricegrabber.com and there are several sites selling in the 1500.00 range.

http://www.hpdirectav.com/item.aspx?eid=7&pid=99050
https://www.ubdigital.com/shopping/P...asp?Sku=AVICZ1
Does anyone have a picture of the unit in their dash? I'm interested in how it looks in the C6 dash.

ZeusC6 08-01-2006 05:13 PM

Ohh boy,,, are these refurbs or Japanese imports? I've heard horror stories about these companies. I did alot of research on digi cams and found out that too good to be true deals we're Canon knockoffs.. be careful bro.. Those prices are below dealer cost and Pioneer regulates that.

steil01 08-01-2006 05:34 PM

Be sure the verify that Pioneer will honor the warranty if purchased through an online dealer. Pioneer only honor the warrenty if it was purchased through an "authorized dealer".

John Bravo 08-01-2006 05:41 PM

I have it and I love it! I got it through a friend but I also saw it on ebay for $1599 buy it now price. I also hooked up the nav traffic feature for $3.99 more on my xm bill, I think for fifty bucks a year its worth it. Overall I say its the best Head Unit on the market right now.:thumbs:

wratran 08-01-2006 11:01 PM

I heard that this unit have a gyro sensor. So the DVD video would not play while the car is moving. There is no way around this. IS this true?

Dark Overlord 08-01-2006 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by wratran
I heard that this unit have a gyro sensor. So the DVD video would not play while the car is moving. There is no way around this. IS this true?

im interested in this unit as well but am also worried about the above...

:smash:

BuckyThreadkiller 08-01-2006 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by edwardaldridge
im interested in this unit as well but am also worried about the above...

:smash:

Watch a lot of movies while cruising down the freeway?

ben dover 08-01-2006 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by BuckyThreadkiller
Watch a lot of movies while cruising down the freeway?

:lol:

ZO6Gal 08-01-2006 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by wratran
I heard that this unit have a gyro sensor. So the DVD video would not play while the car is moving. There is no way around this. IS this true?


My installer told me he could put some sort of switch in it to make the DVD player work while driving. I don't ever watch dvd's in my car so I didn't ask him to explain it but he said they had done a number of them with no problems. :cheers:



Robin

openhelix 08-02-2006 12:33 AM

:lurk:

V Vette 08-02-2006 06:41 AM

Any install issues or problems? How long of an install? Thanks

Dark Overlord 08-05-2006 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by BuckyThreadkiller
Watch a lot of movies while cruising down the freeway?

no.. but it would be nice for the g/f when we go out of town ...

Deftly 08-05-2006 04:56 PM

Bet it does not work with the HUD. I find that one of the neat features of the current Vette nav system.

Dark Overlord 08-05-2006 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Aggie64
Bet it does not work with the HUD. I find that one of the neat features of the current Vette nav system.

yeah i like that too.. but one trade off for a lot better features...

1. i hate the mp3 player in the stock unit.. its too sluggish..
2. the display is subpar to this one.
3. the built in HD will be really nice for storing songs on...

reptilneto 08-06-2006 04:14 AM

can you please tell me if I need to buy new speakers or I need to change any wires,or I just need to get the head unit?,dose this work with thw stock system? thank you

shurite44 08-06-2006 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by rgcarmack14
It will record whatever you put in.

Robin

It records every CD you put in it, or can you choose to record or not record?

Seems like it would fill up fast and record a lot of useless songs if it just auto records everything.

ZO6Gal 08-06-2006 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by shurite44
It records every CD you put in it, or can you choose to record or not record?

Seems like it would fill up fast and record a lot of useless songs if it just auto records everything.


Yes, you can choose what to record. If there is something you don't want to record, then just touch the "stop recording" section. As for the unit, I had thte stock nav unit and the Z1 just slips right in. Nothing as needed to make it work. I had a complete stereo system installed with speakers, amps, etc. because I do not like Bose at all. Here are some pics I have that I was actually taking of my steering wheel I had just gotten from DS Vettes. I hope it will give you an idea of how it looks. It really does look alot like stock. Thanks. Excuse the fingerprints. I have a cloth they gave me to use but I don't use it every day. I should get a screensaver.


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...IMG_0950-1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...IMG_0948-1.jpg

V Vette 08-06-2006 02:48 PM

Sweet! Thanks Again!...V

John Bravo 08-06-2006 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by rgcarmack14
My installer told me he could put some sort of switch in it to make the DVD player work while driving. I don't ever watch dvd's in my car so I didn't ask him to explain it but he said they had done a number of them with no problems. :cheers:



Robin

The unit on power up needs 3 pulses from the head lights.There are ways around everything. Go to www.avic411.com

BBKenney 08-06-2006 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by rgreger
It list for around 2250.00 but I have found it online for under 1400.00 My plan is to purchase it online and find a good installer.... so the search is on.

I first saw this unit at a Car Toys store in Dallas. The harddrive built into the system makes it very easy to store your CD's. Everytime you put in a CD it hasen't played, it will rip it onto the HD so you don't need the CD again. I believe it saves it as an MP3 file so you can load lot's of music onto the system. The navigation software is also loaded onto the HD which gives faster access to the data than a typical DVD reader.

Here is a link to the pioneer site with lots of good information on the unit.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...html#AVIC-HOME

Assuming you are in the Dallas area, would you please post who you got to install it, how well they did it and some idea of the cost?

Thanks,

Crazy Cowboy 08-07-2006 03:24 PM

After having vehicles with Nav I don't like not having it. I'm installing this one in my SUV next week when it gets delivered, can't wait! The AVIC line has nice navigation and this is the best one yet from what I've seen. Will post a comparison to the factory C6 Nav when I get it done :cheers:

mixer99 08-07-2006 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by reptilneto
can you please tell me if I need to buy new speakers or I need to change any wires,or I just need to get the head unit?,dose this work with thw stock system? thank you

Bump for any answers to this question.

corvette pilot 08-07-2006 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by mixer99
Bump for any answers to this question.

Different head unit, but I have read in other threads where people just replaced the headunit and kept their amps and speakers. If I do the upgrade, thats how I plan on beginning.

JWB ZO6 08-07-2006 09:04 PM

You can keep everything else and just change the head unit this dose require an adapter for ease of instillation.

corvette pilot 08-07-2006 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by JWB ZO6
You can keep everything else and just change the head unit this dose require an adapter for ease of instillation.

Crutchfield is showing there is an adapter for the chime integration, but no wiring harness adapter, is that current still?

ein Tier 08-07-2006 10:22 PM

Funny thing is the AVIC series and our navigation share the same "skeleton". I've looked at the file structure and they are remarkably similar -- but I'm sure our units were $50 cheaper to produce.

Over at the AVIC411 forums they claim the safety features of the Z1 can be easily bypassed.

intolerance 08-08-2006 01:20 AM

here ya go!

http://www.thecamerapros.com/prodeta...p?prodid=31772

Iceman997 08-08-2006 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by rgcarmack14
Yes, you can choose what to record. If there is something you don't want to record, then just touch the "stop recording" section. As for the unit, I had thte stock nav unit and the Z1 just slips right in. Nothing as needed to make it work. I had a complete stereo system installed with speakers, amps, etc. because I do not like Bose at all. Here are some pics I have that I was actually taking of my steering wheel I had just gotten from DS Vettes. I hope it will give you an idea of how it looks. It really does look alot like stock. Thanks. Excuse the fingerprints. I have a cloth they gave me to use but I don't use it every day. I should get a screensaver.

I wonder if there is any way to put mp3s directly on it...? I read in some other reviews that it will only rip audiobook cds

rgreger 08-08-2006 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by BBKenney
Assuming you are in the Dallas area, would you please post who you got to install it, how well they did it and some idea of the cost?

Thanks,


I'm looking for an installer now. The Car Toys place in Frisco said they have installed several of these in vettes, but I'm going to check out Best Buy to see if they have installed them as well.

AMGPilot 08-08-2006 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by intolerance

Beware of where you purchase products online. Check out this Reseller Ratings review of the website linked above: Website Review

It is advisable to pay a bit more and have peace of mind about the purchase. Good luck :thumbs:

When I get my C6 next year I plan on installing the same unit in it as well. If I really like it I am going to put one in the C5 also :D

jayelleseven 08-08-2006 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by intolerance


Do Not buy from that site.. its a Scam.. do your research..

reptilneto 08-09-2006 05:01 PM

where do I get the stering wheel ? thank you

Jor-El 08-15-2006 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by rgreger
I'm looking for an installer now. The Car Toys place in Frisco said they have installed several of these in vettes, but I'm going to check out Best Buy to see if they have installed them as well.


I'm interested in what you find out as well. I ordered my '07 Z06 without the Nav with the express intent of adding the Pioneer Z1 instead. I'm picking up the Z at the Museum in a little over two weeks and will be looking to add the Pioneer shortly after we get back into town. :cheers:

GoTreo 08-16-2006 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by rgcarmack14
Yes, you can choose what to record. If there is something you don't want to record, then just touch the "stop recording" section. As for the unit, I had thte stock nav unit and the Z1 just slips right in. Nothing as needed to make it work. I had a complete stereo system installed with speakers, amps, etc. because I do not like Bose at all. Here are some pics I have that I was actually taking of my steering wheel I had just gotten from DS Vettes. I hope it will give you an idea of how it looks. It really does look alot like stock. Thanks. Excuse the fingerprints. I have a cloth they gave me to use but I don't use it every day. I should get a screensaver.


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...IMG_0950-1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...IMG_0948-1.jpg

What additional parts were needd to install this into the Vette? Face plate, wiring harness, etc???? What year is your vette? I will be installing into an 07 Z06.

Thanks,

Jeff

nachocowboy 08-26-2006 10:08 AM

I just ordered one.. got it for $1499.06 with shipping from www.6ave.com. They are distributors for Pioneer, so no warranty worries...

Evidently there is no wiring harness available to tap into the stock wiring, but really you only need to get power and lighting from the factory harness, and could use quick connectors so you don't have to cut factory wires. I am changing everything, getting rid of factory speakers, amp, etc and putting a whole system in. Have to run wires to the door speakers, but I have been doing this for years so it shouldn't be much of a problem. Looking forward to getting rid of Doctor Bose, that's for sure.

I will post pics when the install is complete.

corvette pilot 08-26-2006 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by nachocowboy
Evidently there is no wiring harness available to tap into the stock wiring, but really you only need to get power and lighting from the factory harness, and could use quick connectors so you don't have to cut factory wires.

I just installed mine yesterday. There is a harness, the GMCO from peripheral and it allows you to keep the chime function, I highly recommend it. For the dash kit, I used peripherals BKGMK382 dash kit, from www.discountcarstereo.com Its got a texture to it, but the color is the same as the rest of the controls.

I kept the stock, non-bose, speakers and amps for now, but the harness also has preamp outs. Non-bose, you cut them off and wire into the line level of the new HU, bose, you would leave them on.

For the illumination wire, I at first used the gray/black wire off the Traction Control button, like posted elsewhere on this avic411.com, but for me, that low voltage connection wouldn't trigger ducati boy's flasher, so I ran a wire back to the wiring harness going to the tail lights and put it on the tail light circuit.

Wired in right before the wiring harness goes through the back to the bumper area, reverse light to light green wire, illumination to a kind of grayish brown wire.

VSS wire, at the ecu, as per the above CF link.


The only current issues are the poor bluetooth mic, which I plan on replacing with a directional one, per the forums advice, and the static when pushing buttons. I will look for a new ground, other than the harness, but its kind of tough on a plastic car!
_________________

ducati boy's flasher - on www.avic411.com there is a member, ducati boy that sells a unit that goes inline with the illumination wire. It simulates turning on and off the headlights 3 times at startup which is a hack to allow full fuctionality while moving. It only works on units with a build date of June 06 and earlier. On the July and later ones, there is a different, much easier and free workaround. Check out the avic forum for more info.

corvette pilot 08-26-2006 11:07 AM

reviewing the thread, looks like a little confusion, the chime unit is the wiring harness also.

Blackssr 08-26-2006 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by rgreger
Here is a link to the web site selling the unit for 1484.00 and below one for 1439.00

I did a quick check on pricegrabber.com and there are several sites selling in the 1500.00 range.

http://www.hpdirectav.com/item.aspx?eid=7&pid=99050
https://www.ubdigital.com/shopping/P...asp?Sku=AVICZ1
Does anyone have a picture of the unit in their dash? I'm interested in how it looks in the C6 dash.


No Factory Warranty. Internet retails are tough to deal with if not factory authorized. Be careful.

nachocowboy 08-26-2006 04:01 PM

Corvette Pilot, you're right, I wasn't thinking too clearly this morning, I ordered the Metra harness that keeps the chime, etc... and of course the mounting kit. Now, all I really need to know is speaker sizes for the doors and rear in a vert. I think 3 1/2 for the small door speaker is right, but what is the largest size to replace the larger speaker ? Also, are the rear speaker locations able to accept a 5 1/2 ? Any suggestions out there for good sound quality speakers to use ? I do not plan to use the center channel speaker anyhow, so that's irrelevant. Thanks !

nachocowboy 08-26-2006 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by corvette pilot
I just installed mine yesterday. There is a harness, the GMCO from peripheral and it allows you to keep the chime function, I highly recommend it. For the dash kit, I used peripherals BKGMK382 dash kit, from www.discountcarstereo.com Its got a texture to it, but the color is the same as the rest of the controls.

I kept the stock, non-bose, speakers and amps for now, but the harness also has preamp outs. Non-bose, you cut them off and wire into the line level of the new HU, bose, you would leave them on.

For the illumination wire, I at first used the gray/black wire off the Traction Control button, like posted elsewhere on this avic411.com, but for me, that low voltage connection wouldn't trigger ducati boy's flasher, so I ran a wire back to the wiring harness going to the tail lights and put it on the tail light circuit.

Wired in right before the wiring harness goes through the back to the bumper area, reverse light to light green wire, illumination to a kind of grayish brown wire.

VSS wire, at the ecu, as per the above CF link.


The only current issues are the poor bluetooth mic, which I plan on replacing with a directional one, per the forums advice, and the static when pushing buttons. I will look for a new ground, other than the harness, but its kind of tough on a plastic car!
_________________

ducati boy's flasher - on www.avic411.com there is a member, ducati boy that sells a unit that goes inline with the illumination wire. It simulates turning on and off the headlights 3 times at startup which is a hack to allow full fuctionality while moving. It only works on units with a build date of June 06 and earlier. On the July and later ones, there is a different, much easier and free workaround. Check out the avic forum for more info.

CP, btw, how difficult is it to pull the center console apart to get the factory radio out ? Never did an install on a Vette, so I want to be extra careful... I think pulling the door panels off will be easy to replace the speakers, I mean, how much can there be holding them on anyhow ? Other than wincing when I make a tug on the panels and hoping none of the plastic pins crack...

corvette pilot 08-26-2006 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nachocowboy
CP, btw, how difficult is it to pull the center console apart to get the factory radio out ? Never did an install on a Vette, so I want to be extra careful... I think pulling the door panels off will be easy to replace the speakers, I mean, how much can there be holding them on anyhow ? Other than wincing when I make a tug on the panels and hoping none of the plastic pins crack...

Can't help you on the speaker info, as I am stock for now, but the center console is fairly easy, except for getting the traction control button unplugged. You need to pull out on the tab to unhook it, but where its located is very hard to see, I wound up pulling the switch apart instead of unhooking it and broke it. Fortunately, a new switch is only about $10 from Fred Beans. Here is a close up of it, although the top part of mine is broken off. For the rest of the info on removing it, there is an excellent thread here on the forum with a step by step.

nachocowboy 08-26-2006 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by corvette pilot
Can't help you on the speaker info, as I am stock for now, but the center console is fairly easy, except for getting the traction control button unplugged. You need to pull out on the tab to unhook it, but where its located is very hard to see, I wound up pulling the switch apart instead of unhooking it and broke it. Fortunately, a new switch is only about $10 from Fred Beans. Here is a close up of it, although the top part of mine is broken off. For the rest of the info on removing it, there is an excellent thread here on the forum with a step by step.

Much appreciated info !

wratran 08-26-2006 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by JWB ZO6
You can keep everything else and just change the head unit this dose require an adapter for ease of instillation.

i replace the HU and kept the factory amps and speakers. I soldered 2 pair of RCA input into the wire harness. then plug in the avic.

V Vette 08-27-2006 01:59 PM

Anyone install this on there own? (or a similar unit)?? Thanks

nachocowboy 08-27-2006 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by V Vette
Anyone install this on there own? (or a similar unit)?? Thanks

I will be doing this probably next week, or the week after, depending on when the equipment gets here... I am ripping it all out, starting from scratch, the Bose system just plain sucks in the Vette compared to the Bose system in my 07 Denali - that system is just amazing...

V Vette 08-27-2006 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by nachocowboy
I will be doing this probably next week, or the week after, depending on when the equipment gets here... I am ripping it all out, starting from scratch, the Bose system just plain sucks in the Vette compared to the Bose system in my 07 Denali - that system is just amazing...

Thanks..Please take picts/notes..

Johnny Blaze 08-27-2006 05:49 PM

Has anyone used Alpines latest nav to compare it to the Pioneer?? I have Alpine's latest one in my Escalade now and I love it, just wondering if the Pioneer would be better or if I should just pull the Alpine and have it put in the C6 when I trade the truck in.

corvette pilot 08-27-2006 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by V Vette
Anyone install this on there own? (or a similar unit)?? Thanks

I did friday, its fairly easy if you have ever installed a stereo before. Just a couple extra wires, but no big deal.

This is a thread on an eclipse unit with excellent documentation in it that will be real helpful with whatever HU you choose.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...23&forum_id=20


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