It's too bad we don't have real apples/apples. It would be nice if GM would make a habit of establishing an official lap time at Milford for their cars, but they may consider that too controversial or counter-productive to sales. I'm guessing the Z06/Z07 would be about 3 sec faster on the VIR course than the C7Z51, but the new car certainly seems to put down some impressive numbers for the price. We'll see what the real skinny is once the car is out and winds up in magazine comparos. We can of course expect to hear all about how Chevy uses cheater tires on the Z51 when it clobbers the Porsches and the BMWs around the road course.

While we're nitpicking...swapping out the motorized production seat for a race seat dropped about 25lb, which testing and fire equipment probably added back...

Awesome performance...GM hit it out if the park. Can't wait to see what they do with a high performance Z version.

Quicker on a drag strip, Joe. I thought that was pretty obvious.
The non-Z51 (and I'll refer to it as that from now on since the term "base" was confusing to you) cars will be slightly lightly, with a higher aspect ratio tire and only slightly less gear in them.
I'm sure I don't need to recite all of the additions the Z51 cars get that make them more suitable for road course use.
S.

I'll start referring to them as non-Z51 and Z51 cars since I know you like to nitpick stupid points in order to appear correct.
S.

I recall a formula where you could calculate horsepower if you know the weight and 1/4 mile time and/or speed.

Since we know the 1/4 time and horsepower, we should be able to calculate the C7 weight fairly reasonably.

Sorry, I don't have the formula handy. :shrug:

No, just check the Safe Perimeter option. They'll affix this to your rear:

http://www.truckntow.com/images/Prod...ium/TSM019.jpg

:thumbs:

I've never seen somebody use one of these to calculate weight since it's probably easier to scale the car at the track, but here you go...
http://www.wallaceracing.com/Calculators.htm
S.

I fully expect them to stay mute. So here's one last reply to them:

http://comedyforanimators.com/wp-con...12/08/PIe2.jpg

Hmmm!?
 

Chevrolet says the new Stingray will stop 11 feet shorter than before, putting its 60-0-mph braking comparable with that of the mighty ZR1, which we measured at 94 feet.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2WmHS3SKv

The C5 Z06 was 105ft!:ack: Which car did the 107ft?:smash:

:rock:

This new C7 is going to be very, very well received.

yeah i think the braking state is incorrect on the first aritical, seems really low in regards to the orginal hype. I would think closure to 100', but sadly we will have to wait and see untill GM releases their data

911 tested in Motor Trend.
0-60: 3.8
1/4 mile: 12.0 @ 117
Skidpad: 1.03g
60-0: 94'
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html

Variables in test conditions, drivers, etc. Should be close enough.

Harris rated the Jag higher for showroom appeal (looks), but explicitly states the Porsche is the better car. He does like big oversteer and manual transmissions, so the C7 might be right up his alley too.

I agree here. A more fair comparison would be to see what Randy pobst turns at Laguna seca in the c7 during motor trend's laguna lap special. Then let schlong comparison begin. And I predict a a low 1:37 lap time there. :)

It is funny that some are now questioning the results on the basis of whether the car is a "standard" car or not. Bottom line is the C7 Z51 is faster on a road course than the C6 GS, the ZL1 and is comparable to the Z06. Call it the standard car or the Z51 package car... whatever floats your boat. The performance is incredibly high given the price of the car. We are all lucky it is going to be available to us.

The rest of the argument is semantics.

yes but don't they mention it will cost just under 57K.

I look at it this way
If you want to track the C7 you will buy it with the Z51 package and exhaust and race seats etc.

If you just want the car to drive daily at the speed limit then that package is just wasted money.

these numbers make me excited again for the C7. Thought for sure it would be a lot slower than a C6 Z06.

Well that clears everything up?
 

By: Angie Fisher on 6/20/2013 :smash:Unclear writing!
The 2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray with an available performance package has been rated as the best performing standard Corvette to date.
Base model with performance exhaust!
The 2014 Vette with the performance-exhaust system can make the 0-60 sprint in 3.8 seconds. Braking from 60-0 mph takes just 107 feet, and the Stingray can sustain 1.03g in cornering.

The Corvette equipped with the performance package is priced at $56,590. The Stingray goes on sale this September with a base $51,995 price (including destination charges).
Included!
The $2,800 optional Z51 performance package adds an electronic limited-slip differential; dry-sump oiling system; integral brake, differential and transmission cooling; and aero package.
Extra!
Magnetic Ride Control with Performance Traction Management is a $1,795 option.
This is with everything!
A Corvette with the performance and magnetic ride-control package lapped the 4.2-mile Virginia International Raceway Grand Concourse in 2 minutes, 51.78 seconds. To achieve those figures, the Stingray was stripped to include just a racing seat and harness, and fire extinguisher system.
56590 is everything, but, it was 73k before?

:rofl:

No its not an exaggeration at all, woudl the Z06 with Z07 package no longer be considered a standard Z06 when they quote the Z06's performance?

Auto mags almost always pick all options when quoting performance results of a particular model.

Z51 is not an additional performance model like the C6 grand sport or Z06, its an option to the base model, and therefore the C7 Z51 is indeed base!

All you're doing with these posts is showing how insecure you are about the cheaper C7 performing close to your much more expensive C6.

I will be calling my Z51 C7 the base model, because that's what it is. Nitpicking lettering by GM does not make an option a whole new model lol. :crazy:

but...but...but...it only has 460 horsepower and that's what's more important than these actual performance results. :rofl:

Thanks for the thread to the original poster.

As far as the fact the magazine used the word base car versus standard corvette stingray z51 with MRC is a new low for whining ...

What a great car and exactly how I would order it with the addition of the NPP exhaust....for a total of around 58 grand....or just under 60 large!

Gm outdid themselves with the new c7 z51 with MRC !